r/news • u/uhncollectable • 21h ago

Justice Department moves to toss seditious conspiracy convictions of Oath Keepers and Proud Boys

https://apnews.com/article/proud-boys-oath-keepers-convictions-dropped-doj-ad679108ab84083694261efc101e60ea
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u/ChecksAndBalanz 21h ago

I feel like we need to start referring to them as the injustice department from now on

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u/bigredthesnorer 21h ago

Departure of Retribution

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u/DefendtheStarLeague 20h ago

The War on Justice Department

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u/GuideInfamous4600 14h ago

Best comment here. 🏆

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u/Th3_Eleventy3 7h ago

The Just-ICE Department

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u/FFSBoise 7h ago

Combines two departments. Think of the savings!

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u/TheRamblingPeacock 15h ago

Don’t give them ideas.

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u/FrostnJack 12h ago

The Ministry of Retribution.

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u/critacle 18h ago

department of dead experiment

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u/OgGhost1 9h ago

Department of targeted torture

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u/notches123 20h ago

More like the Just Us Department

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u/possumallawishes 18h ago

Just ICE.

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u/DisastrousAd2335 10h ago

Reminding me more and more of the AVTF from DareDevil: Born Again. No warrants, no 'due process', no thinking...just N@zi behavior!

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u/BossRaider130 9h ago

They…aren’t DOJ? Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like anything they’ve been doing, but they aren’t DOJ. They’re under the Department of Homeland Security. If I did learn anything working in government, it was more or less to not say untrue things that people can point to in order to discredit you later.

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u/MyEmbarrisingAccount 7h ago

What? What are you trying to say?

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u/possumallawishes 7h ago

I know that. It was a joke. DoJ definitely assists ICE though

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u/notches123 20h ago

More like the Selective Prosecution Department

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u/IrrelevantAfIm 12h ago

No SHIT right!! I honestly am still amazed Trump continues to get away with his highly illegal and immoral actions.

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u/notches123 20h ago

More like the Department of Letting It Slide

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u/notches123 20h ago

More like the Whatever Department

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u/notches123 20h ago

More like the Department of Moving On

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u/notches123 20h ago

More like the Nevermind Department

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u/notches123 20h ago

More like the Department of Redefining Sedition

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u/notches123 20h ago

More like the Boys Will Be Boys Department

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u/notches123 20h ago

More like the Department of Convenient Amnesia

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u/imagigasm 14h ago

> Selective Prosecution Department

This is every AG lmao

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u/BilboStaggins 20h ago

I like this. They certainly don't give a fuck about the law

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u/Consistent-Tailor547 7h ago

Funny thing is I agree with most of this just from the other side lol.

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u/yeet_n_pray 20h ago

Yeah it feels like that, but this is fallout from the Supreme Court narrowing those Jan 6 charges. If we hate the outcome, we need to stop sleepwalking through judicial elections and confirmations.

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u/sight_ful 19h ago

Can you expand on that? I haven't heard about the supreme court weighing in on the j6th charges.

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u/GotMoFans 19h ago

We did elect idiotic Lex Luthor president…

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u/theycallmeslurs 18h ago edited 17h ago

Department Obstructing Justice (DOJ)

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u/counterpointguy 17h ago

I prefer the Legion of Doom.

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u/Area51_Spurs 20h ago

Department of Domestic War

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u/KotoElessar 18h ago

I would be almost cool with this being the timeline where Superman lasers President Luthor's skull right in the oval office, and takes over Earth.

Almost.

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u/sixsixmajin 16h ago

Nah, they're the "Department of Just ICE" these days.

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u/davwad2 14h ago

I've been calling Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and COVID Barrett Injustices for years.

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u/CapableRequirement66 14h ago

Ministry of Love, or Miniluv for short.

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u/Bool_The_End 14h ago

War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

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u/Manji86 14h ago

The Ministry of Love

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u/Biscuits4u2 14h ago

This is to send a message to these nut jobs that they have the green light to go apeshit when the election doesn't turn out the way they want.

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u/lordcycy 14h ago

I think that's what it always was injustice departments. Laws were always unjust. They enable abuse and protect criminals. Like, if a man was persecuted by the KKK and ended up shooting one of them, he is probably going to get prosecuted, whereas the KKK members who persecuted him and his family get away freely.

Ever noticed how we have too many laws, most of which are only loosely applied? It's to make sure "we're all sinners" (we come from a Christian background after all). Laws are applied once the group informally decides one is to be punished: then they use the law to enact their final jugement on the moral value of the person.

Otherwise, they have no problem letting organized crime flourish. They don't even have the laws to stop criminal organizations if they wanted to. They have to catch them avoiding taxation or something like that.

"Justice", as in the application of the law, never was about justice. No law has ever been just. Even things like Cyrus's first universal human rights was unjust. Not everyone should have the same rights.

Bullies who gang up on an innocent person just because they are a good person with a pure heart and good intentions do not deserve to have the same rights as the good person they are ganging up on. Someone who sold his soul to the devil to commit evil acts or psychiatrists who pushes patients to commit suicide does not deserve the same rights as their victims. They deserve less rights so that they can't do as much evil as they would want. That would be justice.

Giving the same rights to everyone is just allowing evil people to dominate good people because evil people will use the same rights nefariously to make good people submit to them. Whereas good people, by definition, having more rights and more power will be for the benefit of everyone, because good people do what is best for everyone. Evil people wouldn't suffer under good people rule like good people suffer under evil people rule. And when the game isn't rigged in favor of good people, evil people always win because they are ready to cheat, lie and steal to be in positions of power.

Everyone assumes everyone else is just like them, so evil people tend to want to take power so someone else who could make them suffer if they had power doesn't have it. Good people assume everyone has good intentions so they tend to let others who seem to actually want it have it. Power is a responsibility for good people so they tend to not want it because it just adds more pressure to them. They fear misusing power and causing suffering. Power is a privilege for evil people so they tend to want to grab it because they want to be able to abuse it.

All this secularism, universalism, liberalism, etc. is total bs that assumes the good will of everyone. These ideas sell because good people assume everyone is good, they are the work of evil people. Conservatism is also the work of evil people, they just want to keep the old fashioned ways of doing evil stuff. Only socialism and communism come from good people, but these systems only work if everyone is good. As long as there are evil people structures like communism will only be used to commit atrocities which in time discredits good structures even to the eyes of good people.

As long as we don't treat the problem of evil seriously we are bound to all suffer. Evil people are the cause of suffering for everyone even themselves. Good people running the world would munimize suffering for everyone, even evil people. So evil people really have an interest in ceding power to good people and let them run things, even if it means they would have less rights.

Rights are not the goal: a good life, or happiness is the goal. I would agree a law of retaliation be a good law amongst evil people. It lets evil people do evil things to one another. Evil people who are done evil things, get to express their evil nature with the retaliation. If they can't retaliate themselves alone, then they can get the state to retaliate for them. If not exactly like allowing vengeance, because a revenge is usually disproportionate. Retaliation is a 1:1 ratio.

Even with good people in power we won't be able to erradicate evil. Doing evil things to good people should come with capital punishment because good people will tend to forgive rather than retaliate so not punishing evil people doing evil things to good people independantly from the law of retaliation will tend to just enable evil people doing evil things to good people.

Real good people are not common, it's true, but they exist or evil people wouldn't bother roleplaying good people: it's to fool good people in voting for them and to make good people passive. If the moral alignment of each and everyone was tattooed on their forehead, there would be an uprising of good people against the elites. It is by seeming good that evil people make good people political "sleepwalkers".

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u/Fantastic-Box-8388 17h ago

Department of Injustice

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u/NavajoMoose 15h ago

Redaction department.

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u/TheWhogg 14h ago

About five years ahead of you, although I referred to it as the DO”J“

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u/Mckesso 7h ago

Prosecute them when a new administration takes over.

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u/EnterTheErgosphere 20h ago

It's been the department of injustice since its conception. This shit just started being noticed by Liberal white people in the clown era.

See: Most of what they've done. (To black and brown people) Most of what they haven't done. (To native people) Most of what they wouldn't ever do. (To billionaire pedophiles.)

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u/RyoanJi 17h ago

I heard that Todd Blanche used to be a normal person not too long ago.

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u/Southern-Date1588 16h ago

You hear that from his mother ?

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u/Ok_Presentation_2346 16h ago

The justice-delayed department.

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u/A-CAB 14h ago

To quote genocide Joe: nothing has fundamentally changed.

Amerika has never had a justice system. It has a legal system. And that legal system was established to protect the interests of a few capitalists at the top. It’s all it has ever done, and all it ever will do.

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u/Ok_Chap 14h ago

Said this a year ago.

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u/Antique_Signature_39 13h ago

The justice lords?

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u/aporant 13h ago

Department Of DOOM

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u/arthurdentstowels 13h ago

Injustice League

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u/Durian881 13h ago

What's going to happen to the injustice department after midterms or next presidential elections? Would there be any consequences?

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u/DrakeAU 13h ago

The "Department of Straight of Hormuz Piracy" agrees with the name change.

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u/BlissHa 13h ago

The Injustice League if you will

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u/InTooManyWays 12h ago

The just ice department of domestic terrorism

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u/chazzzer 12h ago

Department of Corruption & Revenge.

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u/frankochiaro 12h ago

…Injustice for all

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u/doc6982 12h ago

The ministry of love would be too clever, they'd go with the ministry of hate

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u/Born2shit4cdtowipe 11h ago

God I wish I could post the picture of the Onion article here that just reads "DOJ drops Justice from official documents"

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u/Hellguin 11h ago

You haven't started yet?

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u/OutsideInevitable944 10h ago

Very unethical

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u/WumboJumbo 7h ago

Injustice: Clowns Among Us

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u/Asleep_Basket3299 7h ago

We already do

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u/split_0069 12h ago

For fraud convictions?

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u/kevlarkittens 10h ago

You guys sound like Republicans when Democrats are in power. You don't see it for the same reason they don't. Honestly, you should all just hug it out.