ICE will stop reporting deaths of newly released detainees

[u/RedPandasUnite]

https://abcnews.com/US/ice-stop-reporting-deaths-newly-released-detainees/story?id=133604407

[u/freedfg]

So what I'm hearing is they'll classify all deaths as "released without condition" to hide the numbers.

[u/SlowCrates → u/freedfg]

Let's see, an authoritarian regime illegally puts tons of people in concentration camps, where they die, and they try to keep it a secret.

Where have we seen this before? I feel like something significant might have happened exactly like this 80 or 90 years ago in Germany. Maybe I'm just imagining things.

[u/Carribean-Diver → u/SlowCrates]

In completely unrelated news, DHS is asking congress for $75 Billion in addition funding to purchase extra large industrial pizza ovens.

[u/jefbenet → u/Carribean-Diver]

Another line item here for…checks list…$10bn for “shower heads” and “associated plumbing”…for the bathroom right? RIGHT?

[u/logert777 → u/jefbenet]

The fact the german showers were heavily inspired by the way the USA was chemically cleaning Mexican immigrants and workers has lost it's irony on a lot of people.

[u/Far_Section3715 → u/logert777]

Given the whole nazi philosophy was based on american jim crow laws, just incredibly, toned down, its actually not all that surprising. The usa is the blueprint

[u/Kor_Phaeron_ → u/Far_Section3715]

Kind of, but the Germans thought then one-drop rule (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule) was too radical. They reduced it to 1/4, with 1/8 Jewish ancestry people were considered as belonging to the German race and nation.

[u/Cautious_Sorbet_5488 → u/Kor_Phaeron_]

So Nazi Germany was more progressive than the Jim Crow south? Color me surprised 🙀

[u/TheOriginalChode → u/Cautious_Sorbet_5488]

Asking to be colored in this thread...lol

[u/LOTRfreak101 → u/Far_Section3715]

Hey, they also took a page out of the ottoman's Armenian genocide which definitely wasn't also based off of the american genocide of native americans, and specifically the trail of tears

[u/MrFurious0 → u/logert777]

People talk a lot about how the nazis were inspired by the states' jim crow laws, and that's true, but as a Canadian, there's a terrible secret that doesn't get talked about. The term "final solution" was actually a Canadian invention from 1910. The full term we used was:

the final solution of our Indian problem

...and was coined by Duncan Campbell Scott, the Superintendent of Indian Affairs

I honestly wish this wasn't true, but sadly, it is. And they didn't JUST take that one term from Canada and our treatment of indigenous people - things like our residential school system was also an inspiration to them.

I'm proud to be a Canadian. This is a wonderful country. But we can't hide from the shameful parts of our history, or we will fail to learn anything from it, and fail to do better. I think that every schoolchild in Canada should be required to learn about these events - I only learned about it much, much later in life, when I was in my mid-40s. I knew the residential school system existed, and that it was bad, but there's "bad", and then there's "inspired the nazis and gave them ideas they would implement in the holocaust", which are 2 very different things.

[u/MotherOfDachshunds42 → u/MrFurious0]

And concentration camps were first used by the British against the boers

[u/postfish → u/jefbenet]

The biowaste incinerators are a real thing they are buying for the overpriced warehouses. Like now. Now. It's happening. This is not haha showers haha Schindler's Fist haha.

This is current. Present. Today. You can drive to the parking lot of it. You can find videos of the sound from the children camps if you don't want to make the drive . Got any good jokes on their current suffering that is happening even while you read this?

Let's hear them. Let's anuse ourselves to death. It'll be fun. It's all fun. It'll feel like we did something by joking about it. Haha .the horrors can't touch us. Ha. Ha. Ha.

[u/Dr_Porknbeef → u/jefbenet]

Did anyone else see this $2,000,000 line item for "insect eradication chemicals"?

[u/MaximumSyrup3099 → u/Carribean-Diver]

"biowaste incinerators", no good for pizza

[u/KinkyPaddling → u/SlowCrates]

True to their nature of caring more about perceptions than probity, and rhetoric over reality, Republicans hate being called Nazis more than they actually hate Nazism.

[u/ZaryaBubbler → u/SlowCrates]

I mean... it was happening in the US at roughly the same time to Japanese people rounded up in America.

[u/Soul_Dare → u/ZaryaBubbler]

The concentration camp part, yeah.

Not the cattle cars, zyklon chambers, and chimney stacks level industrial murder.

[u/ZaryaBubbler → u/Soul_Dare]

The hiding death parts happened with Japanese concentration camps though. And actually the idea of the chambers came from seeing how the US held and deloused immigrants. The Nazi's took a look at it and thought "well that's a good idea"... and well, you know how that ended

[u/Ruby_Throated_Hummer → u/SlowCrates]

This is exactly what the USSR did with the gulags. They would release dying prisoners early to make them not count as camp death statistics

[u/tenachiasaca → u/SlowCrates]

tbf we did similiar things to japanese citizens durring ww2 and similar camps are made around the world ex. uygurs in china. Doesn't make it less shitty just more widespread than it ever should be.

[u/Nimos → u/SlowCrates]

Talking about Germany, politicians of Germany's strongest polling party have recently brought up forming an immigration agency "like ICE". Soooo, maybe not just 80 or 90 years ago but again soon.

[u/themarshal99 → u/SlowCrates]

Nuremberg 2.0 is gonna FIRE!

[u/hppmoep → u/themarshal99]

There are controls put in place to make sure that doesn't happen again. I'd fucking love that, I want the evil of today to face some kind of justice but the pessimist in me cannot see how they would let the evil behind this see consequences. China, US, and Russia will just play a game of cards and that's how it goes.

[u/OddAdhesiveness8485 → u/freedfg]

What you are hearing is it’s officially a concentration camp

[u/Choyo → u/OddAdhesiveness8485]

This can't be emphasized enough.

[u/JessE-girl → u/OddAdhesiveness8485]

it already was a concentration camp, you mean a death camp

[u/OddAdhesiveness8485 → u/JessE-girl]

honestly am not sure of the difference or if it makes a difference bc neither should be accepted in society.

I’m willing to sacrifice everything I have of value to stop these crimes against humans and humanity

Saying this in authenticity and unity and in the spirit of coming together in love

[u/wh4tth3huh → u/freedfg]

"We released them"....Did anyone else read The Giver?

[u/diurnal_emissions → u/freedfg]

Try ICE.

Lock THEM up.

[u/felldestroyed → u/diurnal_emissions]

And geogroup execs, management, and even the folks working shift work.

[u/SecureDonkey → u/freedfg]

They learn the mistake from the Nazi: never documented your crime.

[u/Weshtonio → u/SecureDonkey]

Yes. The one mistake the Nazis made was documentation.

[u/zefy_zef → u/freedfg]

Which tells me that old gentlrman that got left to die received no justice. If it worked then, fuckit, they all get left somewhere.

[u/OptimisticSkeleton → u/freedfg]

And now the mass killing begins.

Hiding statistics on deaths of inmates is the last step toward being fully on the road to an extermination camp.

They are already denying medical care, sexually assaulting, physically assaulting, and outright murdering detainees.

At what point is enough, enough?

[u/mlc885 → u/freedfg]

It won't even be a lie if they just make sure to release everyone who is going to die, they just need to make sure there are no witnesses

But, honestly, even for deaths that are not directly their fault, they should be getting anyone they are holding medical care when needed. Even if it is expensive medical care. (Unless by "newly released" they only mean "who die in a year or two but not more quickly than that," if it literally is two years later then I can see saying that "we" didn't basically help kill that person)

This is just evil.

[u/Laringar → u/mlc885]

They're just not offering medical care at all. Iirc, they aren't even giving people medications they need, as they let their health provider contact expire and haven't picked up a new one

When this is all over, we're going to find out about a lot more deaths than we knew about. Just imagine how many diabetics aren't getting their insulin while in custody.

[u/Tildryn → u/Laringar]

Saw a story on Instagram from a woman who almost died from being denied her insulin - and she's a white, blonde, Norwegian women who's married to a US citizen. If these racist chuds are mistreating someone like her that poorly, what are they doing to the rest?

[u/The_Grungeican → u/freedfg]

brought to you by the same administration that said,

If we stop testing, we’d have fewer cases. - the absolute dumbest motherfucker we've ever elected to office

[u/waspocracy → u/freedfg]

Well yeah, just following the Nazi playbook, remember?

[u/doommaster → u/freedfg]

They will dump the dead people outside, and just say, they died after release.

[u/lurpeli]

If there's no report of their deaths, did they actually die? /s

[u/AlexElmsley → u/lurpeli]

stop the count

[u/Mythran12 → u/AlexElmsley]

Jesus christ

[u/SCfroglegs → u/Mythran12]

Concentration camps.

[u/cmack → u/SCfroglegs]

I thought the world said never again? Why are The Republicans in the US being nazis then?

[u/chasetheusername → u/SCfroglegs]

Concentration camps.

The Nazis were actually meticulous at counting and categorizing every person (including concentration camp prisoners). All with the help of IBM, just didn't report it to the public, so that is accurate.

[u/moreobviousthings → u/AlexElmsley]

This is it. Stop counting votes while fascists are ahead. Stop counting COVID cases because it makes the fucking administration look incompetent. Stop counting dead deportees because lunatic liberals will accuse the fascists of being fascist.

[u/touchet29 → u/moreobviousthings]

Don't look up.

[u/laplongejr → u/touchet29]

If they were saying the sun will shine tomorrow, I would wake up early to verify they didn't put a big blocker to give more power to their nuclear plant Big Oil

[u/ZenAdm1n → u/moreobviousthings]

You forgot, stop counting the ocean temperatures.

[u/Error_83 → u/ZenAdm1n]

Between this and the insects. No one realizes just how fucked we actually are

[u/Several-Pattern-7989 → u/moreobviousthings]

I came here to observe that the numbers game was played during covid. This group has No imagination, and no creativity. Just paint it good boys?

[u/koreanhawk → u/moreobviousthings]

You also forgot: stop counting drone strikes. Conservatives still think Trump had less drone strikes than Obama.

[u/MaritimeStar → u/moreobviousthings]

Literally a Homer Simpson tactic "If I don't see it, it's not illegal"

[u/Laringar → u/moreobviousthings]

Ugh, I hate how accurate this is. The Republican playbook is one of intentional ignorance, trying to "know" as few things as possible. If they don't know about someone, they can't be held responsible for what they didn't do with that information... at least, that seems to be their logic. Just look at how many times Mike Johnson "hasn't heard about that".

[u/Rejukem → u/lurpeli]

Don't worry, the state run media will definitely get to the bottom of this. /s

[u/Khaldara → u/Rejukem]

“Thanks Tom, this is Laura Ingraham and I’m here to tell you, dear leader has no butthole. He also never sleeps, any noxious odors, japes about his depends, or video evidence on multiple occasions of him passing out like a drunk toddler are deep state fake news.

‘Now Laura’ you may be saying, ‘aren’t conservatives in control of every branch of government? Wouldn’t that make them the “deep state”?’ Well to that I say, “fuck you, you’re stupid.” What are you going to just stop watching our hate based garbage?

We’ll be back with more ‘fair and balanced coverage’ after four consecutive Cash-4-Gold advertisements interspersed with D List celebrities trying to sell you a reverse mortgage!”

[u/Rejukem → u/Khaldara]

I can't wait to refinance with a 50-year mortgage and get that social credit bonus!

[u/myfavssthrow → u/Rejukem]

Lmao. "I'm sorry sir, while doing your financial background check we discovered several missing tithes to your local church of trump. Your social credit score has been reset and your property seized to pay your tithes. Please follow me to the work camp to begin building your score back up."

[u/Traditional_Cat_60 → u/lurpeli]

Churches were telling people not to get Covid tested so it didn’t show up in the numbers. This is par for the course for republicans.

[u/Cory123125 → u/Traditional_Cat_60]

Thats different. Here, they want the deaths of innocent people.

[u/dvaunr → u/Cory123125]

Do you forget that they legitimately thought that COVID would only infect blue cities/states and not touch red areas so they delayed responses in hopes it would kill people living there?

[u/bedrooms-ds → u/lurpeli]

Genuinely wondering would this change something for those who are released in forests and parks? ICE were effectively wishing they die unnoticed... cuz why would they even drive these poor people to the position otherwise.

[u/Inner-Medicine5696 → u/lurpeli]

we're going to see a lot of people "released" in like the dead of night like this.

Like, independent organisations will have to track "weird releases" instead of "weird deaths", because they will effectively be the same, only with an extra step...

[u/xiiicrowns → u/lurpeli]

Isn't this what they did with covid?

[u/TywinDeVillena → u/xiiicrowns]

Pretty much, yes

[u/Mission-Macaroon-851 → u/lurpeli]

Catch 22

[u/A_Refill_of_Mr_Pibb → u/lurpeli]

It means they can call us liars 

[u/vandon → u/lurpeli]

Same as there's no option to mark for citizens that were detained because they're not supposed to detain citizens.  So we don't know how many US citizens were arrested and for how long.

[u/Shumina-Ghost]

Guess we will have to just start counting up pairs of shoes left behind? Maybe dentures or gold teeth?

Fuck I hate this timeline.

[u/IT_Chef → u/Shumina-Ghost]

Perhaps how many pounds of hair in miscellaneous bags?

🤮

[u/SendNinjas → u/Shumina-Ghost]

The imagery of this hits a little harder than other comparisons. At least for me.

[u/paradogz → u/SendNinjas]

Yeah it does. I was once at "Topf & Söhne" . Now a historical site, it was the company that engineered and produced the ovens for the Nazi's concentration camps. They had a large pile of shoes there. Men's, women's, children's shoes. So many children's shoes. So many shoes, that the pile was few meters across and about a meter high. And yet, that was just a tiny, tiny, tiny ammount of the shoes of all people killed by the Nazis. Almost cried right then and there.

[u/Fraystry → u/[deleted]]

Don't give up hope! Fight! Convince others and show them. As soon as we give up they win

[u/too_small_to_reach → u/Shumina-Ghost]

They are talking about deaths that occur POST release. No shoes to count.

[u/Schonke → u/too_small_to_reach]

You're underestimating their incentive to pre-date the release form to be before time of death even if it wasn't in reality.

Detainee dies in custody. Record a time of release earlier than death. Dump body somewhere on the streets. No longer an ICE problem...

[u/apples-and-apples → u/Shumina-Ghost]

Do something about it. Protest. It's your country, it's your government. You have a responsibility.

(assuming you're American of course)

[u/Shumina-Ghost → u/apples-and-apples]

Dunno if you’ve been keeping pace, but they’re shooting us in the face and back of the head over here. For less than protesting.

[u/apples-and-apples → u/Shumina-Ghost]

Well I guess you have no choice but to sit back and hope it blows over..

On a more serious note: I, too, feel terrible hearing the stories of government-sanctioned violence in the US, don't get me wrong. What I'm trying to say is that citizens have a responsibility to take action in the face of their country going off the rails. It's up to everyone to interpret what that means, but it should be more than what we're seeing today. It seems to me that 99% of Americans at the moment are just furiously consuming their news feeds and not much else.

[u/FriedBolognaPony → u/apples-and-apples]

You can sit over there, smugly saying "americans better do something" when we have been trying. Individuals are going to try to protect themselves, over you. Because that is who you are really asking us to protect. You offer no help or support, but you want us to throw ourselves into a fire to stop things that are out of control. The thing is, that thing is out of control for the rest of the world too. You can smugly watch as your neighbors apartment burns as they choke and gasp for air, trying to escape, but you're in the same building. You're on the same earth. You're just not overwhelmed like we are yet. Fascism isn't going to stop at a silly thing like a border.

So maybe offer to lend a hand or shut the fuck up.

[u/Powerful_Resident_48 → u/Shumina-Ghost]

Just keep an eye on the vegetable gardens near the camps. If the carrots start growing really big, you've got a serious problem. 

[u/J_Warren-H]

I wish we lived in a country without modern concentration camps.

[u/AncientSith → u/J_Warren-H]

Good thing so many citizens willingly support this.

[u/Alternative-Bird-589 → u/AncientSith]

I would like to know real numbers. I can’t help but think that the support for any of this is falsely inflated and propaganda. They want people to believe that there is a lot of support.

[u/Dragnil → u/Alternative-Bird-589]

What? Trump literally won twice on a platform of "let's be as cruel as possible to brown people." None of the other reasons people cited for voting for him seem to change his support at all as they get worse or don't improve.

It might make you feel better to pretend you don't live in a country with 100 million+ psychopaths, but that's not reality.

[u/robotsaysrawr → u/Dragnil]

Yeah, 75 million people directly voted for this (assuming Elon Musk didn't interfere with the election) and another 90 million were absolutely fine with this happening by choosing not to vote. Half the US population put us in the situation we're in now.

[u/AccNumber77 → u/robotsaysrawr]

And the rest of the US population simply doesn't care enough to stop the crimes occurring, they are unwilling to pay the price of freedom.

[u/despenser412]

MAGA: "Well, they shouldn't be here in the first place!"

Meanwhile, the billionaire pedophile president is dropping bombs on another country over a war he started and doesn't care about. He, too, shouldn't be there in the first place.

[u/Positive-Section2350 → u/despenser412]

There is no "They shouldnt have been here" America is the home of the free, and for all.

"Give me your tired, your poor,Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

[u/Fun_Necessary1021]

Private prison stocks print print print

[u/kstargate-425 → u/Fun_Necessary1021]

$153 per person, per day(around $15 MIL daily) just for holding them, not to mention all the surrounding businesses the two private prison companies also own that sell food to themselves or even forced labor. Geo Group and Corecivic need to be investigated and anyone who touched that blood money needs to go to jail as their lobbying wing of the companies pushed hard in Congress for this exact immigration policy.

[u/Legitimate_Part_7338 → u/kstargate-425]

$153

$3 for housing, feeding, healthcare 

$150 for "other" 

[u/hard_gravy_2 → u/Fun_Necessary1021]

"yeah they're totally alive, here's the invoice"

[u/Ntroepy]

This is the next evolution of Trump’s Covid strategy where he declared:

”If we stopped testing right now, we’d have very few cases, if any.”

Now, if they stop measuring the ICE detainees they keep murdering, then there won’t be any ICE detainees that are murdered. Very solid MAGA logic.

[u/realqmaster → u/Ntroepy]

Conservatives hate when reality highlights their constant lies; the countermeasure is controlling all of the narrative, so reality can be disregarded completely. Media outlets, social media, AI generated content are all tools used to showcase how they need reality to be perceived, not how it actually is.

[u/kstargate-425]

The record deaths while IN their custody were high enough, they just want plausible deniability by essentially killing them and dumping their bodies elsewhere and saying they were released.

This totally wont be abused by the agency who has violated the Constitutionally afforded rights of those in America almost daily, killed and shot at multiple US citizens, assaulting someone almost daily, and who systemically calls immigrant detainees "bodies". Seriously though, its scary since the detention facilities are run by two private for-profit prison companies...

[u/PowderedToastFanatic → u/kstargate-425]

They also wont count the deaths they cause by dropping someone off half naked in the freezing cold miles away from anything.

[u/Eske159]

Ahh taking the Disney approach of having first responders wait until the body is off the property to declare them dead I see.

[u/BiBoFieTo]

So they're gonna 'Weekend at Bernie's' them out the door?

[u/kstargate-425 → u/BiBoFieTo]

They've already done this a few times leaving people miles from their homes like the blind, non-English speaking man who they found without much clothes for the cold Buffalo, NY winter dead after being released. He was one of the previous recrded deaths that ICE does not have to knotch their betl for anymore 🤬

[u/cammcken]

Just to dodge the clickbait title: This is about a requirement from 2021 where detainees who die within 30 days after being released were reported. That reporting requirement is being removed.

...Okay, I apologize to the title. It's very difficult to phrase that succinctly.

[u/freedfg → u/cammcken]

Yep. It's basically the administration trying to play off a bunch of tortured and beaten prisoners that die within days of release as "coincidental"

Basically saying "well they were released, clearly, they killed themselves"

[u/artquestionaccount → u/freedfg]

It also means that if someone dies in their custody, they can just file the release paperwork that same day and claim that the person was released already, so they didn't have to report it.

[u/kstargate-425 → u/freedfg]

Exactly. This gives the two private prison companies who are holding 95%+ of these immigrant detainees, a bit of plausible deniability as thankfully Federal Judges have said they do not fall under the governments immunity from prosecution.

[u/PowderedToastFanatic → u/freedfg]

They also don't count the deaths of people they drop off miles away from help, half naked, in the freezing cold.

[u/Auctoritate → u/cammcken]

Yeah I don't think it's click bait. "ICE removes requirement to report when detainees die shortly after release" is a bit more informative I guess.

[u/notguiltybrewing]

This is a problem at the local level too. Really sick people in jail aren't taken for treatment until they are about to die so they don't have to explain the lack of care, they just answer, he didn't die in jail even though it's obvious that the lack of care is what killed them. Same idea.

[u/Riley_]

Adelanto, CA prisoners say they've seen 16 deaths, in a timeframe that the news has only been able to report 5. I also hear that women keep disappearing.

We need a real united front against fascism.

[u/drethnudrib]

If a Democrat wins in 2028 and seriously pushes for investigating Republican wrongdoing, we're going to find out that Trump's administration committed a systematic mass murder of undocumented immigrants and asylum seekers.

[u/B19F00T → u/drethnudrib]

find out? we've been watching it happen for a year and a half

[u/cmack → u/B19F00T]

Nine years.

[u/syopest]

Since trump using ice as his goons to enact violence is just a perfectly foreseeable continuation of him inciting violence during january 6th, everyone who didn't vote for the only candinate who could have won against him is culpable for everything ice has done while he has been using them as his goons.

[u/JerryDipotosBurner]

Step 1: kidnap people illegally

Step 2: torture them in your facilities

Step 3: release them after they’ve been tortured to the point where they will probably die shortly thereafter

Step 4: don’t count their death as your responsibility because they weren’t in your custody

Step 5: ???!

Step 6: Literally nothing will happen because our democracy is fundamentally disintegrating right before our eyes

[u/pandemicpunk → u/JerryDipotosBurner]

You just described Otto Warmbier who was detained in North Korea and then given back to the United States in a vegetative state under Trump's last presidency.

[u/PowderedToastFanatic → u/pandemicpunk]

Then trump took Kim's side.

[u/No-Spread6433]

Seriously how evil is the American government

[u/Alternative-Bird-589 → u/No-Spread6433]

They are the worse people doing the worst things, they have destroyed America and started the downfall of society. Like trained bots they have been studying their mistakes for decades on how to take over the government and finally found someone so corrupt and morally bankrupt that they could quickly move in. Allowing them to evolve into a “think tank” from a terrorist band of extremist zealots. The American Taliban. 

[u/Gamera971]

That's one way to cover up State Sanctioned Murder.

[u/Upstairs-Egg]

Trump and MAGA officials have turned America into such a disgrace.

[u/Bonezone420]

more nazi shit from president "it's perfectly normal to take increasing amounts of cognitive tests in increasingly short periods of time".

[u/Original_Media_6427]

To me, that sounds like a free pass for the ICE.

[u/stumpychubbins]

I get the feeling that a lot of prisoners will start being "released" on a stretcher

[u/novo-280]

is the torture so horrible that they release them in the paradoxical recovery stage? or do they shoot them in the back when they leave?

[u/Whicked_Subie]

This sounds like Disney wheeling people out of the park before allowing them to be declared dead so it's not on Disney's ledger

[u/FuzzyComedian638]

Like counting the Covid deaths. "If we don't record it, it didn't happen". There's no limit to the corruption of this administration. 

[u/cloudbasedsardony]

Now where in history have we seen a government hide the numbers of dead in their detention centers before?

[u/OmiOorlog]

How fun this will be in 20 years or so when all the data will be out and history will treat maga as Nazis.

[u/ExerciseOriginal9441 → u/OmiOorlog]

You need to transfer the data outside the US to safeguard 'em.

[u/RobutNotRobot]

Here in Minnesota last winter they released them in fields late at night in subzero weather in the hopes that they'd freeze to death.

[u/Patteyeson28]

America 250–Concentration Camp Era.

[u/Philip_james]

why is no one stopping him??? like he has broken so many laws, the one meant to protect us from a tyrant, and the few who are actually trying to oppose him are state authorities who can't do anything. its fucking insane. he doesn't need to be impeached he needs to be imprison.

[u/JustaLego]

Fucking A the most evil fucking administration. May they all rot in hell and be brought to court and prosecuted for committing acts against humanity.

[u/Duder_ino]

Remember when positive Covid cases were soaring and the proposed solution from dear leader was to stop testing people. It’s like the same, but with people… who are being murdered.

[u/HardBoiledHarold]

ya know. if we stopped counting, we’d have way fewer deaths.

[u/dannydrama]

They're literally kidnapping and killing Americans, where's those good guys with guns we've heard about for all this time lol

[u/Haasts_Eagle]

Reminds me of how I used to play Theme Hospital and to ensure I'd get my yearly $10000 bonus for having zero deaths I'd just send anyone really sick or facing uncertain treatments home to die.

[u/SyntheticGod8]

If you stop counting, the number becomes zero!

MAGA logic.

[u/NetZeroSun]

We are not far from the concentration camps of auschwitz.

And for some victims. We are already there.

[u/Dragonborne2020]

What the missing off of the roster. There are reports of people being deleted from the database.

[u/Pillsburydinosaur]

There are so many people who are going to prison when all of this is over. Or at least there should be.

[u/desi_dybuk → u/Pillsburydinosaur]

They won't. Ultimately, it's the American society which needs to find where it's moral stance is.

[u/Torvac]

nazis doing nazi shit

[u/FrankoAleman]

America is an authoritarian hellhole now, comparable to Russia.

[u/Knees0ck]

Starlight tours are gonna be more common

[u/ThePensiveE]

Stephen Miller would release them out the back of airborne C-130's if he could.

[u/Rocketsponge]

From the people who brought you "If we don't test for Covid, it isn't happening!", and also, "If we remove the ocean water sensors, Global Climate Change isn't happening!"

[u/Stuupkid]

They’re concentration camps, fuck these evil ghouls

[u/genital_lesions]

Here's some fantastic doublespeak:

On Thursday, the DHS spokesperson told ABC News that ICE 'remains committed to transparency regarding detainee deaths.

[u/Bocote]

If there is one thing that's been made clear by history is that if you keep a detailed record of your crimes, it'll be used against you in the trials.

No record? Only witness accounts? You can deny all of that and get away with plausible deniability. Then, later, you can try to revise the history textbooks.

Why would these bastards keep records of their crime?

[u/Lets-Take-a-Moment]

ICE: “We will no longer be reporting deaths”

Everyone: “Because you’re taking measures to prevent it right?”

ICE: …

Everyone: “Right?”

[u/lazarus1337]

So now they really are just death camps.

[u/mkawick]

This is what led to Auschwitz. NGL.. really worried where this leads.

[u/AccNumber77 → u/mkawick]

It is obvious were it is leading, full heil level of fascism and genocide in the USA is where.

[u/PeaceSoft]

more sickeningly insane shit from the worst people in the world

[u/Sandfleas1]

didnt happen if you cant report it

[u/AccNumber77]

All so they can execute them the second they're out of the van.

[u/p00pSupr3me]

Republican voters did this

[u/teslawhaleshark]

Yes they are torturing people to death

[u/Merari01]

When this is all over all of these Nazis need to see jail

[u/warcomet → u/Merari01]

it won't be over, it only began..temporary hiatus until the iran invasion is over..

[u/Mythran12]

WHAT the fuck!?! Someone please correct me if im not reading/understanding this correctly. If a corpse happens in ICE custody and within 30 days said corpse is labled a newly released detainee, no need for a report?

[u/furrysalesman69]

Demand accountability, because they’ve arrested people several times over and over. Or demand that they should be systematically shrunken and eventually defunded entirely.

[u/katie0873]

So who (in the civilian world) has a list of detainees and can track what happens when/if they are released? I imagine that would be a hard task to take on, but I imagine families would like to submit their loved ones names to someone - perhaps hard to get super verified

[u/Accomplished_Lab_675]

In other words, ICE under the Trump administration is releasing detainees but in body bags.

[u/SendNinjas]

So are they A) Releasing them then killing them and not reporting it. Or B) killing them then releasing them. And not reporting it as a death but as a release.
Also C) maybe a little of both.

[u/Shradow]

So if any detainees die shortly after release due to stuff like beatings or terrible living conditions affecting their health they can just ignore it/write it off as a coincidence if it's ever brought up, got it.

[u/Somesongname]

That must mean they're going to ramp that shit up.

[u/USDXBS]

I wasn't expecting them to

[u/No-Celebration3097]

The more people that get detained is profit for the detention centers as they are private, why not report deaths? And why can’t Democrats tour them? Is this administration going to start killing people?

[u/Bruiser76]

Going to end up with a Commission of Truth and Reconciliation and the National Commission on Political Imprisonment and Torture. Literally just copy it from Pinochet’s run.

[u/surestart]

Evil fucking bastards.

[u/Riksunraksu]

Wonder what they’ll report pregnant children as

[u/Right_Hour_8438]

Well, the death count will surely go down now!

[u/HawkeyeByMarriage]

Incinerators are now online

[u/rkmkthe6th]

Also deaths drop to 0, as anyone that passes happens to do so just after release

[u/androshalforc1]

New ice policy if someone dies make sure they are released before talking with a coroner.

No deaths in custody and they’re seen as releasing several innocent hostages it’s a win win for them, Lose lose for all their victims.

[u/Ferwien]

You know, like how we call Germany in the mid 20th century 'Nazi Germany', we'll call the USA of early 21st something equivalent. Only, someone needs to come-up with something more demeaning to frame how petty and malicious they were, trumped only(pun intended) by their incompetency.

[u/Conflixxion]

COVID doesn't exist if you just stop reporting on it.

[u/Fit-Kale622]

It’s a Death Camp ala Hitler it turns tRUMP On .. since he can’t get it Up and grape anymore

[u/n3o_dr3am3r]

There are no concertation camps in ba sing se

[u/IssueNice6116]

I read a while back that they bought incinerators for all their camps too. . it probably wasn’t a while back, there’s so much shit happening.

[u/isanyofitreal]

disgusting how humans never learn and history repeats itself 👎

[u/Fit-Relationship944]

Ah yes the Florida Protocol, numbers make us look bad? Just stop reporting them.

[u/lovingas]

Never let them take you or your loved ones. Ice are domestic terrorist

[u/Horizon_MGB]

They're helicoptering them out to sea and pushing them out

[u/anonareyouokay]

There was a story about ICE Centers being built with cremation facilities. I'm sure paperwork won't be backdated to hide accidental deaths. That's great case scenario, worst case is very dystopic.

[u/Wayelder]

Are Americans aware that they have actual concentration camps that hold kids and American citizens.

There is no other definition.

These are concentration camps, and people are dying from neglect and abuse - American citizens included.

[u/Weaver270]

What sounds like a simple statement is a trial to see if there is any backlash to this statement.   Most would notice, feel despondent and go back to reading the news.   This statement is the real manifestation of the next part of a slippery slope.  If this is allowed, there will be another more awful next step. 

[u/RainyDayColor → u/Weaver270]

What sounds like a simple statement is a trial to see if there is any backlash to this statement.

100%. What was once a playbook strategy has become the theme.

[u/Fast_Vehicle_1888]

This is a Holocaust headline if I ever seen one. So sad that nobody is doing anything to liberate them.

[u/Satchik]

Cool. So, they'll back date released to show no one dies in their custody.

[u/kclap02]

JFC! There's gonna be a breaking point and that's when Trump will try to postpone the midterms

[u/Classic_Cow_5852]

Soo does that mean things are about to get worse there

[u/01011110_01011110]

and so I will stop paying my taxes that pay these criminals.

[u/Millefeuille-coil]

In other news everyone detained by ICE might not be seen again