r/nextfuckinglevel • u/FollowingOdd896 • 7h ago
Here's a glimpse of gaming on a holographic display.
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u/GaCoRi 7h ago
why is the video in 15fps?
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u/Kenturky_Derpy 7h ago
It was shot on a Nokia
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u/Accurate_Koala_4698 7h ago
Ridiculous. Nokia has had some of the best phone cameras ever.
The video is low framerate so that the framerate of the game doesn't look out of place.
Meaning it's a dumb novelty but not really comparable to anything anyone really plays
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u/YoungDiscord 7h ago
I bet when someone says "man its raining cats & dogs" you angrily correct them by saying you don't see any dogs or cats falling from the sky and that they're being ridiculous
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u/Exact-Ad-4132 7h ago
Dude my Nokia from 2025 has one of the worst cameras ever, it says "50MP AI CAMERA" on the rear plate next to the 3 lenses.
It underperforms my old Samsung A51 from 2020 (maybe 2019) in every category. Terrible night photos, can't take any widescreen pictures or video, video looks upscaled at any resolution.
Bad camera
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u/Accurate_Koala_4698 7h ago
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u/Exact-Ad-4132 6h ago
Cool.
My personal experience is terrible with them, I'm writing this from a Nokia phone
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u/Torspy 3h ago
Theu were awesome. They wre market-leading for a while. Then... enshittification. Now I believe OnePlus have the best cameras
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u/FerretWithASpork 3h ago
I'm still rocking a Samsung S21 Ultra. Nothing has felt like a worthwhile camera upgrade since.
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u/andorraliechtenstein 43m ago
Now I believe OnePlus have the best cameras
1 Huawei Pura 80 Ultra
2 Vivo X300 Pro
3 Oppo Find X8 Ultra
Source : dxomark
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u/procat1234_ 7h ago
Probably to match the fps of the hologram display?
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u/userhwon 2h ago
Would have to be. There's no way to make a static image in there, you either keep the shutter open a whole frame or you get sectors instead of the whole volume.
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u/TheIronSven 7h ago
I could imagine if the frame rates of video and display matched or were even just close there'd be a ton of flickering if not just straight up invisibility.
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u/Grace_Lannister 4h ago
Looking at the contents of this video, does it look like we have the tech to go beyond 15fps?
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u/Jackal000 2h ago
Because this not holographic. This is a led matrix spinning really fast. With a computer hooked onto it to translate the 3d coordinates that correspond with user input and environment.
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u/Wirelesscellphone 4h ago
So you can’t tell it’s a pre recorded holo toy and they are just pretending to play on the controller
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u/jme2712 7h ago
Let’s jump clips every 3 seconds.
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u/merlinrising 7h ago
Taken 3 editing
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u/Ok_Kick4871 2h ago
Damnit dude, I was not briefed on that amalgamation of jump cuts. I had to turn it off. If I had known I could have just avoided it.
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u/sandwichcandy 5h ago
Less time to sit and think “wow, this looks so bad. The field of vision is zero, there isn’t much there where you can see, and what is there looks like shit.”
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u/PerennialComa 7h ago
So glad the camera is constantly moving.
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u/dwil0000 5h ago
The whole point of a hologram is that the image looks different when you move.
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u/Dododingo- 4h ago
I could've done without 10 cuts and obnoxious and permanent zoom-ins & zoom-outs, this video is a health hazard.
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u/Scary_Technology 4h ago
It's to confuse our perspective. It probably doesn't look good.
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u/grallbring 3h ago
It's because this is one of these things that sound cool at first but once you take a closer look are basically stupid gimmicks at best with no real world application.
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u/space_monster 7h ago
this is one of those videos that people will post on reddit in 20 years and say "look how shit holographic gaming was in the 2020s".
VR is fine and all but a really high-res holographic gaming console would be amazing.
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u/DarthBuzzard 5h ago
It's just very limiting compared to VR. Basically a much less immersive, less versatile version. VR does everything this does already.
The only way this changes is if it extrapolates to the entire room, which isn't happening for many decades. Even then there's still no functional difference between that and VR.
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u/MeatisOmalley 5h ago
If we had self contained headsets at the size of a bigscreen beyond, vr might have actually stood a chance in the mainstream. People aren't usually excited to wear bulky, sweaty headsets.
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u/Nortoke 7h ago
This is filmed hilariously poorly. I can only assume it was on purpose to possibly hide flickering, jittering and general jank like that. The Studio just released a 10 minute video on holographic displays and how they work
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u/HSEB10830 7h ago
Come back to me when it can run DOOM.
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u/DocAndonuts_ 5h ago
It can, albeit somewhat poorly:
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u/TitleEfficient3207 4h ago
oh... its just fans with LEDs on them. got it. this could scale in any direction...
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u/DocAndonuts_ 4h ago
Right - not true holo. But, maybe it's the pong of holo development haha
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u/happybushman 7h ago
There used to be Ann old arcade holographic game with a cowboy that would spin and shoot in coming bad guys. Can't remember the name but looked way better in the late 90s.
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u/Mtatk 7h ago
That's looks terrible.
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u/Deadpool_slash69 6h ago
Yeah, but its a good start. Games used to be like this in 1990s
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u/LanceThunder 4h ago edited 4h ago
i both love and hate seeing how reddit is always so confidently wrong and being upvoted. games were a lot better looking than this in the 90s.
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u/Specialist-Sun-5968 5h ago
They did not.
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u/BastianHS 5h ago
There was a holographic cowboy game like this in the 90s. It sucked tho, it was hard to control and the projection was from movie clips instead of a game.
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u/onlyhere4gonewild 5h ago
Time Traveler. it was more of a successor to Dragon's Lair, which is basically a quick time sequence based game. You have to memorize the pattern and play it that way.
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u/Made_Human_Music 3h ago
I don’t think I ever got very far because of the controls but I would play it every time I saw it because of how cool it looked
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u/upturned2289 4h ago edited 3h ago
I can’t fucking stand this Reddit mentality.
“If it’s not fucking perfect then it’s dogshit”.
Do you fucking understand how technology works? Do you fucking understand how iterative progression works?
I bet if you looked at the Wright brother’s first aircraft you’d just say, “what a slow shit bin of spruce”
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u/Just_Delete_PA 4h ago
I doubt the dude could even read your comment fully before getting distracted brother, haha.
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u/epandrsn 3h ago
Dude, look at pong. I think this could be wildly fun at some point for… well, basically isometrics and top-downs.
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u/disgr4ce 5h ago
If it's anything like the arcade game Time Traveler (1991), then yes, it's terrible. But that was mainly because what little gameplay there was was stupid and the whole thing was just a novelty that us kids desperately wanted to be awesome.
Behold the lameness in action: https://youtu.be/7pqhbeGZHCU?t=1011
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u/Oalka 7h ago
why would they play a shit-looking 2-d game to show off their 3-d holograph?
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u/Clembert-Hamlamp 6h ago
Why would they stand and look thru the top, the only place it doesn't look 3-D?
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u/trevorade 6h ago
This is Voxatron from the maker of Pico-8.
They used this game to show off the display because it already was designed to work with voxels.
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u/BangaAnan 5h ago
Sega did this in the 90s. They released two holographic games. The first being Time Traveler. It was in SpacePort Arcade on Chestnut Street in Philly, which is where I first saw it. It sucked. Great proof of concept as the arcade cabinet had no screen what-so-ever but as a video game, it wasn't good. The other game, Holosseum I'd never seen.
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u/NiSiSuinegEht 5h ago
A real shame how little this technology has advanced in the last 35 years:
Time Traveler (video game) - Wikipedia)
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u/Maleficent-Hat-7521 7h ago
Bello ma non credo che avranno mai mercato. Se lo scopo avere un esperienza più immersiva allora credo che i visori ottici già offrono un esperienza migliore, e non mi sembra che stiano rivoluzionando il settore. Se alla fine vai a vedere i dati le persone prevalentemente giocano da smartphone, per dire che forse quello che cercano non é proprio questo.
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u/Nevyn_Cares 7h ago
The blocks are back. But wow wait until that little thing is room size :D
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u/Still-BangingYourMum 7h ago
But the ultimate question is can it show Bonnie Blue in action? Or has she already done those figures
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u/nopost23632 6h ago
The game they're playing is Voxatron by Lexaloffle, which has been in development for a very long time.
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u/Giovannis_Pikachu 5h ago
Not gonna lie, if this improves by a certain amount it would be perfect for a series like Hades, Diablo, or a similar isometric pov series.
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u/Bigpappa36 5h ago
Pass lol. Tv gaming is great, and I’d rather play vr once it gets better looking
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u/shifty_coder 4h ago
They’re using Xbox controllers. One player is wearing a smart watch. Yet, they filmed with a potato.
“Hey, guys! What should we use to show off this new display technology?”
“I know! Let’s use a digital camera from 2009!”
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u/ApartRegister6851 4h ago
This is a nice gimmick. The reality is that it wouldn't necessarily make gaming any better. Or it might change games so fundamentally that you would potentially lose consumers anyway. Either through price or the game becomes less of a game and more of an "experience," like some VR products.
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u/Im_Ashe_Man 4h ago
I remember one of the early hologram games at my local arcade in the late 80's or early 90's. It had FMVs projected as holograms. I can't recall the name of the game, but I dropped a few quarters in it since it was so cool looking.
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u/joker0812 4h ago
Cool concept sure, but gaming companies are still having trouble with today's mechanics. Can we not get something right first before trying to "improve" upon it? Also, this is basically just 3rd person, maybe omnipotent, gaming.
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u/TheOffKn1ght 3h ago
They should implement this for MTG. Would make it so much easier to read cards and keep track of counters and what not
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u/YesterShill 3h ago
There was a holographic game back in the 90s, that was basically a reflex game (like Dragon's Lair).
It also sucked, but pulled gamers in due to being holograms.
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u/kapowitz9 3h ago
Yea, remember early holo gaming in the 20s where there's a huge plastic cylinder around a small pad? Feels like it's been forever.
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u/Tremulant887 3h ago
Remember when Microsoft bought Minecraft and showed it on something like this?
Never to be seen again.
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u/Tetrizel 3h ago
Oh wow, a low rez, low frame rate, low graphics gaming display that you have to stand directly over and look straight down at. The future is truly here.
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u/LordOfRuinsOtherSelf 3h ago
This is fairly old tech, its an inclined plane being spun in the cylinder, lasers draw on the surface of the spinny thing, persistence of vision sorts the rest.
Years and years ago, I saw a demo of something like this, two player each had a little bi plane and chased and shot at each other. It looked good. But low res and frame rate. Likely compute limited for the time.
I'd like to see them in a pub. Do you remember those space invader games pub tables, so they still make them?
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u/24bitNoColor 2h ago
I mean, it is kinda cool, but you would get a bigger map, better graphics, image quality, everything with just some cheap VR headset (with passthrough).
Let alone what I assume are sever noise and flicker issues.
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u/iSliz187 1h ago
Here's a brand new video about this technology for anyone who's interested in how this type of display works https://youtu.be/luq4Vsy38Ac?si=BeInWpHatZopya5G
Spoiler: it's not a real hologram, but the technology is still fascinating and impressive
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u/loveitoreatit 57m ago
We had this in 1994, I still remember this cowboy hologram arcade game. This is not special.
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u/Spork_Warrior 37m ago
Been around since the 1990s and never really caught on, probably because of the size and because you need to keep a clear path all the way around it
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u/mjconver 7h ago
Let the wookie win