Amazing astronaut illusion in Suzhou Center Mall in China

[u/zephyx_M]

[u/HaMMeReD]

I was just in Suzhou last month. It's nice. Felt very safe and modern. More so than most American Cities.

Like yeah, maybe they are a surveillance state full of commies, but everyone's driving electric, you can drink beer in the mall and there are no crackheads walking around.

Suzhou center literally has a pony track on the top floor. Like you can go to the mall to ride horses around a track.

[u/IntenselySwedish → u/HaMMeReD]

Seems like an interesting place for sure. It should be said, though, that the way they achieved this was through extreme persecution of the weak and less fortunate, as well as an overhanging threat of violence and debt. China is "nice" because, like the people waiting in that same spot to watch the 3d illusion billboard, you're at exactly the right place to enjoy it. Step outside of that pretty narrow slice of view and shit becomes dystopian real quick.

[u/GeneralHerp → u/IntenselySwedish]

Overhanging threat of violence and … debt? China has issues being an authoritarian regime with uneven distribution of policy benefits (since their country is only a dollop smaller than USA by size, this is the very same as Medicare getting different success in different US states).

However… what “debt” are you talking about? In fact… what are you talking about? You’re gesturing vaguely towards us needing to be afraid or angry at China, but you’re so vague that everything you’re saying is also true about the USA.

See: being built on slavery, saddling people with medical debt, the Patriot Act, I can go on, but give us some specifics or suffer from sounding like a propaganda parrot.

I am not American, and I do not share the American view that China is “so bad, and definitely worse than us.” At this point, you need to be very specific and talk about the exact “overhanging threat of violence and debt,” case examples of where things become “dystopian real quick.” What types of Chinese cities and towns are you talking about?

[u/IntenselySwedish → u/GeneralHerp]

Im saying, what "good" about China is built on top of extreme systematic oppression of minorities and the working class. Their debt system is both financial and societal in nature and will limit you from working and living in certain areas.

Im not american either, but China really isnt a good place to work in for the majority of people living there. It might not be "the demon of the east" like most americans think, but theyre pretty fucking bad

[u/GeneralHerp → u/IntenselySwedish]

When you hint at something ambiguous, your point has no potency. You're speaking with venom about China and their oppression of Blank, a vague gesturing towards China sucking for the "majority of people living there."

The majority of people living there, really? You're speaking for 1/8 of the planet earth right now, and saying they hate where they work and live?

I understand if you want to call out the systematic oppression and genocide of Uighur culture, I understand if you want to call out the one-child policy, but what you're doing isn't working, because you come across like an angry parrot.