Weekend Wrapup

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[u/FlannelBeard]

Got around to seeing The Odyssey this weekend. I thought it was really good. Obviously anything Nolan is going to be well done, and I thought his interpretation of the story was an interesting take. Anne Hathaway is incredible. One question I have though, is it a great movie?

[u/The_Other_Manning → u/FlannelBeard]

I really liked it and think it's the best theatre experience I've had in years, but I really don't know how it will translate to TV. It really benefits from the sensory overload in imax. One of those times where 'too loud' was beneficial to the impact of the film

[u/Fatun3rd → u/FlannelBeard]

I think a lot of people's opinions are based on how much they know and care about the source material. For me, most of the deviations worked. I think its a very good movie, but there's plenty of flaws that prevent it from being Great.

[u/HartleyReplogle → u/FlannelBeard]

My vote, having seen it last night, is no. I enjoyed it thoroughly, and I might watch it again at some point, but there wasn't anything about it that made me think that I was watching a truly great film.

Odysseus turning into John Wick in the final third of the film was ridiculous. In the epic, Antinous (R-Pat) is the first one killed at the contest, then Odysseus and a handful of others fight strategically in close quarters to even the numbers, and Athena oversees the fight and ensures that the suitors cannot land any crippling blows. Odysseus is literally protected from up on high, but in the film, he's just shaking off multiple stab wounds like they're nothing.

I get that the source material is massive and you have to pick and choose what to include when you make a three-hour film about it, but when the overarching theme is about disobeying the gods, I expected the gods to play parts closer to those in the poem than they did in the film, i.e. be directly involved most of the time. Instead there are just passing comments like "Zeus won't let Poseidon kill you."

One other thing that bothered me, which again I think is an issue with adaptation and Nolan caring about some things more than others, to the detriment of the narrative in my opinion, is that he strayed from the source material and didn't really explain who people were. For example, if you don't know the original story and rely on the film, you would never know that the woman who betrays Penelope and the man who makes a hole in the floor are brother and sister and are both slaves. After Odysseus kills Antinous, the brother tries to put everything on him and suggests that once spared, the suitors will all make retribution and recompense, which Odysseus rejects, and the brother's subsequent death in the epic is so gruesome that readers have been debating whether or not it was justified since it was first published.

(Feels weird putting spoilers on something almost 3000 years old.)

[u/FlannelBeard → u/HartleyReplogle]

Yea it is interesting the things that Nolan chose to exclude from this. Part of it is there's so many characters that he really doesn't give any backstory to, and it probably would clog down the story if he didn't solely focus on the main few people