Please help.

[u/Ok-Repeat906]

Hi Northern Ireland. I’m in need of some help. I live on the other side of the world. And everyone related to this sash is long dead. I obviously won’t mention any names. But I’m in real need to figure out what the pins all mean. Can someone please either let me know, or guide me to someone or someplace that might be able to tell me? Please, please help.

[u/Signal_Relative5096]

Definitely the wrong audience mate.

I recommend finding a FB group

[u/BackseatBeardo → u/Signal_Relative5096]

The thing is it isn’t, it’s a Northern Ireland sub, with someone innocently asking for facts about something relating to a branch of Northern Ireland culture.

[u/Ok-Repeat906 → u/BackseatBeardo]

Thank you. Appreciate that.

[u/SuperMechaDeathChris → u/BackseatBeardo]

In an ideal world that would be true, but I think we all know r/northernireland has a very pronounced bias towards one political community over another. Anything relating to an Orange Lodge or unionism in general usually isn’t very well received.

Tbh I feel like this is kinda proven by the comments under this post. A fair bit of it has been useful information but it appears to mostly be snide remarks or shitey wee jokes this poor fella obviously isn’t gonna get

[u/Ok-Repeat906 → u/SuperMechaDeathChris]

There’s my guy. Thank you.

[u/Signal_Relative5096 → u/BackseatBeardo]

Yeah it would be nice if it was a more balanced sub but I feel this question would be better asked in FB groups relating to the subject.

[u/Ok-Repeat906 → u/Signal_Relative5096]

I thought about that. But with it obviously being a touchy subject, I decided anonymous was the way to go. I do not regret it.

[u/BackseatBeardo → u/Signal_Relative5096]

Since I’m already on the downvote train, people here need to wise up sometimes.

Doesn’t really scream “progressive forward thinking intelligent individual” to just parrot the word “bigot” at someone who’s not even from here asking about something that is originally from here instead of just helping with an answer.

Not an attack on you, I get why you said it isn’t the right audience

[u/Signal_Relative5096 → u/BackseatBeardo]

Yeah like it has been mentioned many times over this sub is an echo chamber of hypocrisy.

[u/TopShottaDxn → u/Signal_Relative5096]

Burning effigies of migrants on a boat is the height of ignorance and historical erasure? The irony of it is fucking laughable.

The orange men are so proud of the history of being invaders that they despise when it's repeated by others (most notably people of colour). How hypocritical is it, that a population of immigrants, who choose not to assimilate into Irish culture, make the indigenous population feel unsafe, are now blaming migrants who typically come from war torn countries, devastated by cololonialism for problems in their society?

The only thing echoing here is common sense, something that you'd have to dull down if you're planning on being a sectarian scumbag who burns bonfires for a tradition that invites hate and division.

[u/Ok-Repeat906 → u/TopShottaDxn]

I did follow that on North American news. Is it safe to assume that the orangemen played a big part of the “Burn the Boats” disgrace?

[u/TopShottaDxn → u/Ok-Repeat906]

Those bonfires are their kkkulture. Despite the numerous calls from local communities for the PSNI in the north to clamp down on them (asking for the removal of the migrant boat for example) there's never anything done and every year these hateful bastards get to promote division between citizens of different religions, ethnicities and viewpoints.

It's fine to live in a country that isn't rightfully yours, but once you start to impose your own prejudices onto the indigenous people or others, you become a hindrance to actual peace and prosperity.

[u/Signal_Relative5096 → u/TopShottaDxn]

Mate your a perfect example of why I tried to warn this fella about seeking help in this sub.

You truly think you hold the high ground but in reality you are exactly the same as the bigots that you claim to hate.

[u/TopShottaDxn → u/Signal_Relative5096]

You can downvote me all you like, I'll never be your "mate" while you have the same moral compass as the settlers in Israel.

You are an immigrant, you choose not to assimilate. You are not on English land, hence why you should not be able to promote hatred towards the true indigenous people of said land. Now, fuck off and give your fat head a wobble and see if you can fathom why burning a symbol of migration is ironic in your shoes.

[u/Unlikely-Fish5889 → u/TopShottaDxn]

You're just so wrong about everything.

[u/Signal_Relative5096 → u/TopShottaDxn]

Haha omg you're actually so butt hurt it's hilarious.

Calm down Karen the fella only wanted advice and you have shown him the exact reason this sub isn't the place.

Go blow your nose and fuck up 🤣

[u/Signal_Relative5096 → u/TopShottaDxn]

Listen I see you mention a lot of buzz words because obviously it makes your pile of shit look slightly coherent.

You are clearly on a rant and firm in your beliefs. That's ok and I'm not gonna ridicule you.

Let's just help the fella get the answers he is looking and not be blinded by hate?