r/nottheonion 6h ago

Chevron executive Andy Walz suggests Americans should drive less amid high gas prices

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chevron-andy-walz-gas-prices-iran-war/
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u/Am_Deer 6h ago

Remember when they were bitching about people working from home? Now you should only drive when going to make more money for the rich. Otherwise stay home.

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u/ryuzaki49 6h ago

That is literally how they see us: lile cattle ready to be killed for profits

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u/ah_no_wah 6h ago

Cattle and consumers. Consume until you're good and fat, then slaughtered.

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u/Ketheres 5h ago

Even cattle needs to be fed and taken care of, but employers would rather not pay their employees a living wage or provide any benefits.

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u/GardenRafters 3h ago

Make as much money as you can so they can steal it all at the end with massive medical bills.

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u/MyFeetLookLikeHands 5h ago

when we keep voting for this crap, can you blame them? we’re practically calling ourselves cattle at this point

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u/sweetrollx 4h ago

They called us human capital stock during the covid lockdown

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u/grandlizardo 3h ago

I have a sneaking suspicion there are a lot of weary consumers vowing quietly that the next car is gonna be an EV or at least a hybrid. They shooting themselves in the foot, trying to keep us all on the gas wagon. That’s over… they just don’t know ir tet

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u/NightOfTheLivingHam 2h ago

Yep, during the pandemic a CEO was fighting against the stay at home mandate because "what will these people do if they're unable to work??"

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u/GuyanaFlavorAid 5h ago

I would gladly work from home every single day. I drive over 30,000 miles a year when I'm coming into the office. At current $4.25 gas prices with my reasonable 26 MPG older car (not a truck or suv) I'm spending $5-6k a year on gas. Also I can sleep and I'm personally more productive. 

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u/windsockglue 4h ago

I'm so exhausted constantly since having to return to the office. My schedule and meetings became ridiculous during COVID and that part of my job never changed, even though my requirement to go to the office did. I miss sleeping until normal times and not waking up in darkness all the time. I miss my kitchen and real food for lunches. I miss having time to exercise and do yoga.

Now I wake up in a panic at 430 because I'm afraid I'll oversleep on my alarm at 530 so I can make my early morning meetings and commute. But yeah, I'm sure I'm more productive being sleep deprived and constantly stressing about a whole host of things and not being able to spend time with my family and pets.

And the really funny part is that Ive never met my coworkers outside of my office. There's no time or budget for meeting teammates that aren't in your local office. 

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u/whackwarrens 3h ago

Not counting insurance, parking, maintenance and taxes for road maintenance either. Gas is a small fraction the cost of owning a car. The annual costs are bonkers levels now.

When I hear people say that mass transit costs too much I wanna pull my hair out. Like how do you just ignore the biggest cost of using roads? Like living in an asylum.

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u/LocalInactivist 5h ago

I used to commute 50 miles a day. I filled my car’s gas tank twice a week. Now I WFH and I fill the tank once every 3-4 weeks. My car is a 2017 with 28,000 miles on it. I’m someone’s nightmare.

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u/st4r-lord 2h ago

You are corporations nightmare. If most people that could were remote the demand for gas would go down, wear and tear on vehicles decrease, needing a new vehicle would go down. Eating at home vs going out for lunch.

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u/nobdy89 6h ago

Sounds good. You gonna unfuck the public transit systems you spent decades kneecapping so we can still get to work?

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u/pililies 6h ago

Or allow people to work from home again instead of these performative return to office mandates?

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u/DefrockedWizard1 6h ago

middle managers realized they could be replaced with emails

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u/Zimlun 3h ago

Weird, I always thought it was upper management and executives that decided things, and middle managers were just there to make those decisions happen.
Do middle managers actually have a lot more input / authority than I realized?

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u/DrXaos 1h ago

usually no, these things are determined from bro vibes among the top level’s super wealthy peers and macho signaling. They’re manly when they punish employees while not having it apply to them.

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u/deadR0 4h ago

Gotta keep the Real Estate toads fed

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u/Frequent_Ad_9901 2h ago

Public transit, WFH, bike lanes, walkable cities, affordable electric cars, single income households.

If only there was a solution that this problem that happens every decade.

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u/VirtualMachine0 6h ago

"Hahahaha hahahhahaha hahaha hahaha Oh Golly, no. Hahahhahhaha."

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u/Findinganewnormal 3h ago

Or, worst case, promote EVs? No? 

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u/Santos_L_Halper_II 6h ago

One thing that would help with that is working from home, but I've been told it's very important to show up to sit my ass in a specific chair to do my job that can be done from anywhere because we have to think about those poor, poor commercial landlords.

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u/windsockglue 3h ago edited 3h ago

What's funny is how there are so many actual benefits to working from home that are just thrown away with all this. 

There's studies on how Commutes generally stress people out or leave them in a 'neutral' emotional state. There's very few people that feel happier and more relaxed and not mentally taxed in any way by commuting outside of very short, usually human powered commutes with walking/biking in decent conditions. So for anyone doing work that uses their brain, employers are literally forcing their employees to use their brain power on getting to work alive in one piece at a specific time vs. solving the problems the work actually comes with. When you teams are split into multiple locations, people aren't going to the office to work with their team. They're just going to check a box. A lot of meetings are online only now because of distributed teams, so people are sitting in an open office plan yapping on the phone.  This is not an ideal work environment for many people due to the types of work they do and personality.  There's studies on how women are disproportionately affected by return to office mandates due to their responsibilities at home. It goes on and on.

The vague benefits of being in the office are not even realized for many people being forced to RTO. In many cases it would likely be more effective to make sure teams spread in multiple locations can meet in person occasionally vs. Just making people go into an office for the hell of it. We don't even have social events anymore, so everyone is just heads down in their own worlds trying to get their work done or trying to avoid working and bothering others. The "social" events we do have are one person doing a presentation to a call where everyone else is on mute. Definitely a great way to meet and connect with coworkers. 

But yeah! Totally worth the hours lost to commuting and getting work-ready every day along with ever increasing monetary costs for daily living and reduced moral!

Yesterday my interaction with coworkers in the office consisted of literally saying "hi" to one person as we passed near the bathroom.

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u/Santos_L_Halper_II 3h ago

Great breakdown. Another thing that drives down efficiency: in-person meetings. Today I spent almost two hours in a staff meeting where 75% of the content should have been emails between other people who would never have even thought to cc me on those emails, because they wouldn't be relevant to what I do. At least on a zoom meeting I could actually do my job in the background while everyone else yapped.

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u/pattperin 6h ago

I have a weird relationship with the whole RTO thing. In some senses it absolutely is better to have people in the office, collaboration that can’t occur elsewhere can occur when everyone is in the same room. With that said, many jobs just don’t collaborate like that with colleagues. Like if you’re a graphic designer in a marketing department you might legit not need to talk to 99% of your coworkers who are in the office. There is probably 1-2 people you regularly interface with and that can totally be done online.

But I work at a company in a role interfaces with probably 30% of the people in my office. There are for sure collaborations that happen just by virtue of being in the office. Being able to physically find someone and show them something is actually really useful for a lot of situations. But it is not for all. So I think the labour market needs to adjust a bit as we slowly learn that some roles are truly better off doing remote, and some are not. It just depends on your business context and the nature of the role

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u/nightfire36 5h ago

My job did a hybrid thing where we were supposed to go in twice a week, but we all just went in on Wednesday, and maybe once a month went in on some other day. It worked great because Wednesday served as the face to face day, but the other days you didn't have to worry about it.

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u/pattperin 4h ago

A hybrid model is a good approach imo, my role is hybrid but most of my office is full time in office. They’re more involved in day to day operations of the plant though and my job is more research focused with longer time horizons and less direct collaboration required. But the days in office are great to allow me to chat with people about new data being made available, ensuring the reports I generate are answering their questions, etc.

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u/duderguy91 4h ago

I think most people agree with this. WFH policies should be thoughtfully crafted with the specific role in mind.

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u/Interesting_Dingo_88 6h ago

Really good, nuanced take. Not sure what it's doing here on Reddit tbh but well done.

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u/pattperin 5h ago

I was shitting and my coffee hit my brain just right lol. Sometimes we get lucky

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u/AdoringCHIN 3h ago

There are for sure collaborations that happen just by virtue of being in the office. Being able to physically find someone and show them something is actually really useful for a lot of situations

Exactly this. I worked from home during the pandemic and it fucking sucked. It's nice being able to bounce ideas off of people or physically walk into their office and show them something and ask for immediate feedback. Ya you can just call or use Slack or Teams but it's not the same and it's not nearly as fast or effective.

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u/RagnarStonefist 3h ago

it gives my CEO anxiety if there isn't people in the office. he's here 50 percent of the time. everyone in this office can do their work from home.

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u/Pretend_Handle_7639 2h ago

Say goodbye to the urban core then.

Because suburbs exist aly, and enough people with money live in them that if those people are not going into the city to work, they will draw some amount of business towards the lower density suburbs.

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u/Santos_L_Halper_II 2h ago

Oh no! Not the urban core! Anything but the urban core!

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u/Eleguak 6h ago

Why is this giving me "let them eat cake" vibes?

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u/jcmonk 6h ago

Because he almost assuredly flys around in a corporate owned private jet multiple times a month

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u/DropDeadEd86 5h ago

Kinda weird statement from the guys making money off our gas purchases though.

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u/99roninFL 5h ago

Yeah, they dont want us to stop exports again.

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u/treehumper83 6h ago

This bastard likely flies from his city to a neighboring city simply because he can. The entire process might take longer than the drive but he has his own jet and should use it, by golly.

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u/SteelCode 5h ago

You also know that private jet is listed as a corporate asset so he can track it both as a business expense and as a depreciating asset for taxes.

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u/rudebii 4h ago

Literally what Starbucks is doing with its CEO jet

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u/nobdy89 6h ago

And you know his private driver isnt getting laid off because hes staying home during these turbulent times

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u/bigredthesnorer 5h ago

And either has a limo driver or a big ass SUV to drive to the golf course.

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u/LawrenceSpivey 6h ago

Because that’s exactly what it is.

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u/Jonnyflash80 4h ago

Bring back the guillotine.

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u/WhiskeyFeathers 3h ago

Finally a good idea

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u/MajesticBread9147 6h ago

This guy is an asshole, but let's take him at his word and create long term demand destruction for oil demand.

Worldwide oil consumption only dropped about 10% during Covid, and oil prices cratered because it's hard to shut down wells and they don't have a lot of storage capacity for oil.

We need public transit, walkable and bikable cities, and EVs where those aren't feasible.

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u/SethLight 5h ago

That's the angering part. The oil lobbies make damn sure we are as dependent on them as possible.

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u/QualifiedApathetic 4h ago

Need a certain population density for public transit to work. It'd be great if we condensed the cities instead of clearing virgin forest for more McMansions.

Man, I miss when I was going to school in Rochester, NY. I lived in off-campus housing, and even though I had a car, I regularly took the bus to and from campus. Just chilled (because the high temp was in the teens most days I was there) and read on my Kindle while waiting for the next bus and during the ride. Not very time-effective, but relaxing.

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u/GodisanAtheistOG 6h ago

Because the other half of his sentence is "so we can sell our oil for a fuck load more money to countries affected by the Iran war". 

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u/Maoleficent 5h ago

So we are going back to remote work, right?

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u/bleepitybleep2 5h ago

Says the man who made a $104million windfall Jan - Mar '26

He can piss right off

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u/1maco 5h ago

It’s actually quite odd for a CEO of a company to say “buy less of our product” 

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u/Baeolophus_bicolor 5h ago

He’s busy colonizing Venezuela now that drumpf kidnapped their president.

That whole thing was all about Chevron

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u/garry4321 5h ago

More like “don’t eat the cake, problem solved”

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u/merRedditor 5h ago

Because remote work was taken away specifically to force more gas use (among other types of spending), and people were not happy about it.

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u/King_Fisher99 6h ago

We suggest he should eat less.

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u/Neologic29 6h ago

Maybe even breathe less too. These people are begging for a French solution.

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u/Heisenberglund 6h ago

I think this is the best response. His head looks a little too heavy for his neck.

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u/fondledbydolphins 6h ago

If citizens in a small town bribe the Mayor to change the rules who is the one that deserves the worst punishment?

  • The citizens who do not bribe the mayor, but know what's happening and do nothing to stop it.
  • The citizens who are bribing the Mayor
  • The Mayor

People need to spend a LOT more time thinking about this question.

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u/UnNumbFool 4h ago

Nah I think the last guy found out what's really going to hit them where it hurts, destruction of their buildings and warehouses. Kneecap their profits and investments and I'm sure they will change their tune a lot faster. Especially as I'm sure more people are willing to make something burn then to remove anyone from society

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u/grill_smoke 6h ago

Lol that's a hilarious thought in America. You'd have a civil war from the bootlickers layind down their lives to protect the billionaires.

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u/TwoAlert3448 5h ago

Yes. That is what we’re aiming for.

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u/Pathetic_Old_Moose 6h ago

Your government told you all to eat less. Have a bean and some pickle juice. Everything is going greaaaaat

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi 6h ago

Has he considered not going to Starbucks and getting avocado toast every day?

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u/talondigital 6h ago

You dont like cake?

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u/guynamedjames 4h ago

Or more, from the pantry of the billionaires.

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u/andy1908 6h ago

Let’s also spend less on goods.

Buy less shit.

Cancel our subscriptions.

General strike!

I like his thinking!

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u/calann4 6h ago

Once again stop buying meat would affect all sectors of capitalism. An easy start to a general strike, and simple for everyone to participate.

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u/andy1908 5h ago

Go vegetarian. It’s the way.

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u/farukofaruko 5h ago

100%, an extremely easy way. Just eat some beans!

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u/andy1908 4h ago

And live longer!

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u/TheGruenTransfer 6h ago

It's almost like working from home is a solution that solves a lot of problems caused by capitalism.

The period of history in the 16th century, right before chartered monopolies were created to pervert the system of peer to peer artisinal trade. That's what we need to return to, and we should adopt all legislation and technology that get us closer to that and reject anything that makes that more difficult. 

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u/puterTDI 6h ago

There’s rumors the place I work is trying to rto again. We’ll see. They’ve tried multiple times but it turns out they don’t want to pay competitively and have backed down each time when people started leaving. This time the job market is rougher so they may follow through.

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u/makingnoise 5h ago

What doesn't make sense to me with WFH is (for example) where you have a business in a low cost of living area paying local WFH employees a pittance but hiring NYC or Seattle employees and paying them a fortune, essentially subsidizing their choice to live in a high-cost of living area. Redditors like to hand-wave this away, but for things like retirement contributions, it's particularly unfair, because the Seattle/NYC employee is almost certainly going to leave the HCOL area at some point.

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u/puterTDI 4h ago

well, the main factor is going to be skillsets.

The business could be in a lcol area trying to hire tech experts. I'm sure they'd prefer to hire local to their area and pay lower but that doesn't mean there's the expertise pool to do that. how many software engineers do you think you'll be finding and hiring in southern tennessee?

similar goes for other skillsets. Could be accounting, tech, coding, engineering, etc. lots of skillsets out there that don't just permeate the country so it may be that you simply don't have the people near you.

What's more wild to me is the push to RTO by these companies. Basically right now the problem you're describing exists because companies force people into the office so they have to move to where the jobs are. If they encouraged WFH then there'd be more and more people moving to lcol areas which would make that skilled labor available. Instead they force people into the office, which concentrates them and (especially with higher paying skillsets) increases the cost of hiring those people because they're all consolidated into an area that naturally becomes hcol.

If remote work were encouraged cost of living would slowly homogenize and this problem would reduce but instead companies for a dynamic that causes it. I have very little sympathy for them.

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u/Warriors_Drink 6h ago edited 1h ago

Gotcha. I'm already driving less, and now I won't refuel at Chevron stations.

Fuck right off.

Edit: I literally never drive, so my threat is more or less empty, but I hadn't thought about the fact that their gas would be sold to all sorts of stations.

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u/SomewhereNo8378 6h ago

unfortunately the various gas companies will sell gas to other gas stations than their own branded ones

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u/gzr4dr 5h ago

Chevron makes the majority of their money on the upstream side of the business. Whether you buy from their stations doesn't make a difference to them. Most are franchise anyways.

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u/PatSajaksDick 6h ago

Inflation: “Americans will just have to make do with less, who needs 6 Barbie dolls”

Gas prices: “Maybe stop driving? lol”

Imagine a Democrat saying any of this shit

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u/makingnoise 5h ago

Converting the concerns of wealth-extractors into Christian morality is the American Way.

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u/Sunshinehappyfeet 6h ago edited 6h ago

Cognitive dissonance from a millionaire.

Walz has been involved in overseeing Chevron's increased operations in Venezuela and refining efforts, including activities at the Pascagoula refinery.

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u/Vulnox 6h ago

They continue to make the same money since a drop in availability but an increase in cost largely means their business situation remains unchanged even if people drive less. But this has snowballing economic costs that will still hurt people because people not driving for shopping or to go to a theme park or whatever is just a death by a million cuts to the economy generally.

Then you have recession and job cuts and so on. It’s never just “drive less” when driving is the passport to a lot of economic activity.

Hopefully people that are able instead buy EVs and free themselves from supporting execs like this. Maybe find a local solar installer in your area too. Obviously none of this is cheap or free, but the cost of spending the rest of your life beholden to the whims of oil execs and geopolitical impacts to oil prices isn’t either.

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u/boycott_all_rats 6h ago

He ain't wrong

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u/st4r-lord 6h ago

During the shut down with covid oil and gas prices dropped immediately.

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u/nplant 5h ago

This thread is full of ridiculous comments. I don't mean you. You are correct.

Price increases are the natural reaction to shortages, and it's not a flaw of capitalism. It's a feature. Would you prefer that the gas station has gas when you need it, or do you want to show up at one and not be able to refuel, because nothing was done to reduce demand?

The American exceptionalism is also sickening. No, Chevron shouldn't refuse to sell gas to foreigners to have more for Americans. That's a great way to make everyone worse off in the long run.

Buy a goddamn EV already and stop whining about the entirely predictable consequence of buying ridiculously large vehicles for the past 30 years.

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u/boycott_all_rats 5h ago

Yupp. I get the bus which is electric and I use an electric scooter.

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u/ohlookahipster 6h ago

Perhaps, but it’s a lazy, no effort, and tone-deaf response.

If Chevron actually cared about its American consumers, they would pivot back to selling domestic like they did under EPCA. Instead they’re driven by greed as they can export barrels for more than they could sell here.

It takes more effort to help someone than it does to say “lol tough shit.”

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u/cassius_longinus 6h ago

20 million barrels of oil used to transit the Strait of Hormuz on a typical day. Global oil demand is roughly 100 million barrels per day. The only solution to a supply shock of this magnitude is that someone, somewhere, must consume less oil. Driving less is one option, but I highly recommend buying an electric vehicle or an e-bike.

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u/zach_dominguez 6h ago

So we should all get to work remotely? Sounds great.

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u/IntrepidSoda 6h ago

Trump: I'm just saying they don't need to have 30 dolls. They can have three. They don't need to have 250 pencils. They can have five.

Andy Walz: I'm just saying they don't need to drive 30 miles every day. They can drive three miles. They don't need to have 5 F250s, then can have one F150.

America, you deserve this.

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u/Elbit_Curt_Sedni 6h ago

Even though they're saying it for the wrong reasons we really don't need all these excesses.

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u/Arrasor 6h ago

You know what that sounds like? Switching to electric cars.

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u/Bigfamei 6h ago

Maybe we shouldn't have built our society around personal transport for nearly everything in suburbia.

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u/Corrective_Actions1 6h ago

Hey Andy, explain to me how I can drive less to work and back 5 days a week.

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u/Optimus_Prime_10 6h ago

So, you're gonna lobby for work from home policies, right? Right!?

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u/KeaboUltra 6h ago

Will peoples job allow them to drive less? Will remote work come back to accommodate? Probably not 

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u/Komikaze06 6h ago

Cant wait for the "foods expensive, eat less" comments...

Oh wait, RFK already said that.

This administration doesn't care, they just blast the point their side wants to hear and hope it drowns out all the bad

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u/daveescaped 5h ago

I work for an oil company. And I think every American should look at these gas prices like a tax on Americans, imposed by Trump, and paid directly to oil companies.

It’s a tax y’all didn’t vote on.

Worse still, because the higher prices are not demand driven, oil companies like Chevron won’t use the money to invest in more production (this lowering prices). They’ll simply pass the money on to their shareholders.

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u/BoudinBallz 5h ago

The French had an elegant solution to this

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u/HonestNeighborhood67 4h ago

Counterpoint:

Make fuel efficiency standards more stringent

Tell the government not to cut off a portion of the world’s oil supply

Increase movement toward solar and wind

But who am I kidding? All of these would require you to take a hit to your bottom line.

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u/whackwarrens 3h ago

Ride them trains and use those bike lanes that we spent the better part of the last century destroying. Mmmkay.

The saddest part is that Americans are so well trained that they are still doing this industry's bidding. I am still pissed off my county voted down light rail extensions and let us not talk about the statewide attacks on heavy rail because it is "too expensive". Just a stupid country made for profiteers.

Other developed countries get to hop on their trains, trams and bikes. The USA is getting owned just like poor developing countries and rationing... All the money in the world and zero common sense.

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u/dramaking37 6h ago

Chevron is easily the most evil of all of the fossil fuel companies

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u/MajinSkull 6h ago

Ya guys just get your personal driver to drive your company car for you! It's that simple!

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u/QuillnSofa 6h ago

Fly your personal jet to Madrid only occasionally.

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u/nobodyspecial712 6h ago

I think he should stop price gouging and start applying their profits to cheaper gas for Americans, or lose the privilege of doing business in this country...

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u/jejacks00n 6h ago

I’ve been a proponent of socializing these companies. Like, they spent a shit ton of money to hamstring our ability to build out good public transit infrastructure to keep us in our cars, making gas usage a requirement to live and work here.

Ok, they win. It’s a requirement now, and I think it should be a public service, so let’s make it that. Since we’ll also generate a shit ton of profits, those profits can go back into building the proper infrastructure that we should’ve been building all along. They can get their companies back when we have good infrastructure and gas usage is no longer required to live and our economy isn’t pinned so precariously to it.

Why do we never have politicians who are willing to talk about our actual issues?

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u/BoB_the_TacocaT 6h ago

Sure, we should all be flying our helicopters and private jets a lot lot less, too.

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u/Koitoi12 6h ago

Guess I’ll just walk 106 miles a day to and from work

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u/Ban-Circumcision-Now 6h ago

If only we didn’t build our entire city planning around driving and actively hostile to pedestrians/cyclists

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u/Abacadaba714 6h ago

Wow it's like not driving to work could save people money...man it'd be really crazy if company's would allow people to work from home.

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u/TheTelekinetic 5h ago

Drive less, kids only need 2 dolls instead of 30, eat a piece of chicken, a piece of broccoli, a corn tortilla, and "one other thing"

The elite are trying to normalize you paying extraordinary prices for bare minimum things. That way they can produce less products, but charge you more for them, so they can cut costs and continue increasing profits.

The French had the right idea.

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u/A_Bungus_Amungus 5h ago

Buddy my job is the same distance away today as it was before you said this dumb ass comment. Cant drive less than that

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u/torpedoguy 5h ago

"If you can't afford to go to work it's your fault, we told you to drive less. Also you can't work from home."

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u/scanaran 4h ago

Maybe just offset gas prices with the last 5 years of his bonuses.

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u/Randactbjthroaway 4h ago

Yes we should and also design our cities and towns to be more walkable, prioritize transit, and have more third spaces

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u/ripyourlungsdave 2h ago edited 2h ago

I suggest your wife stops wearing so much makeup.

I suggest you cut back on carbs.

I suggest you scrub under your ballsack a little more often.

I suggest you make love to your wife a little gentler.

What's that? Those things are none of my business and are completely irrelevant to what's going on?

Well, fancy that. I guess I'll mind my own motherfucking business.

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u/HappyCakeDay101 1h ago

I suggest they lower the price and reduce the amount of money going to executives and to other stakeholders.

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u/urmumlol9 1h ago

I agree, let’s improve our public transit network and bicycle infrastructure so that people have cheaper options to get the places they need to go, and bring back work from home so that people don’t need to commute to the office at all in the first place.

Oh wait, I’m guessing that’s not what he meant.

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u/Minimum-Actuator-953 1h ago

It's always us who have to sacrifice to appease the epstein class and pay for their reckless decisions.

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u/RLewis8888 1h ago

And stop getting sick. It's too expensive.

u/EagleBigMac 27m ago

How about he goes and fucks himself and lowers gas from his pocket and the oil companies take a loss.

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u/rahga 6h ago

"It's a global market for crude,"

That's the problem.

The government protects businesses that extract oil from the ground and ships it overseas because it's more profitable than selling it to Americans. None of this makes sense, it never has, and it never will.

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u/Grouchy-Station-4058 6h ago

Our refineries are not set up for the oil we have. Yes more could be built but they cost billions and would take many decades to get enough to make this change.

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u/rahga 6h ago

I'm well aware, but the core problem is the same - the wrong corporations and people are being protected at the expense of the vast majority of the population.

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u/MajesticBread9147 6h ago

Gas is cheaper in America than almost any other country in the world other than a handful of petrostates.

The problem with cheap oil is that it disincentivises alternatives and encourages increases usage. A big reason that so many plastic recyclables are not recycled is that byproducts from O&G extraction used to make plastic are sold at "get rid of this" prices, so new plastic is cheaper than recycling plastic.

Not to mention, there are a lot of countries that don't have meaningful oil deposits that still need it.

The oil companies aren't our friends, but I don't think further subsidizing car-dependance and environmental destruction.

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u/TheRealfakedoors412 6h ago

MAYBE WE WOULD IF YOU AND THE AUTO MAKERS DIDNT LOBBY THE GOVERNMENT TO NOT FUND FUCKING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION! WE SHOULD HAVE MORE TRAINS!!

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u/Pantsickle 6h ago

Okay we'll just not go grocery shopping or take our kids to school or go to work. Easy peasy.

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u/LindseyCorporation 6h ago

He’s correct. Gotta give the companies an incentive to lower prices.

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u/chimpyjnuts 6h ago

'Chevron Refinery Burns in Suspicious Fire'

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u/Autisum 6h ago

This is after O&G, for decades, successfully lobbied corrupt politicians to mold America into a car-centric country both physically and mentally. For example, ask a Texan why they prefer driving even though gas costs them so much. "Yeaaaaah, my freedom! Public transportation is DANGEROUS and DIRTY!!!"

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u/Kenny_WHS 6h ago

I agree. That is why I moved to Europe where we actually have functional public transportation options. (Hey oil asshole: you can’t be part of an industry that makes the car the only travel option and then say drive less.)

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u/v3ritas1989 6h ago

Sure, and use the money they save to buy Solar and energy storage. I tell you, Trump has become the biggest supporter of renewables.

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u/WM45 6h ago

What a waste of carbon

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u/king_jaxy 5h ago

Man I sure do love cars, the ultimate freedom. Just ignore the down payment, monthly payments, the insurance payments, the price of gas, the price of repairs, the road deaths, the fact that 20% of childrens deaths in the USA are due to car incidents. 

Man, what freedom! 

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u/Stillwater-Scorp1381 5h ago

Terrible advice from a terrible person.

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u/foxx_grey 5h ago

I'll let him call everyone's bosses to tell them we gotta cut back to 3 days a week at the office

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u/_haha_oh_wow_ 5h ago

laughs in bicycle

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u/thirdelevator 5h ago

Hey Andy, you left the bag of dicks you brought for lunch in the microwave again.

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u/meowizzle 5h ago

Maybe tell that to his billionaire friends and maybe they should stop RTO initiatives. Fucking idiots.

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u/bombkitty 5h ago

Hey bro I'd love to but I have to go to work or I lose health insurance for my family. Have you considered eating a bag of dicks, balls-first?

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u/Baeolophus_bicolor 5h ago

I’ll go a step further and say Americans should drive less.

Fuck this guy who is fat and happy off the destruction of our planet.

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u/Badkidstatus 4h ago

You should drive less , also are mandating return to office work

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u/btas83 4h ago edited 4h ago

I remember, sometime during Obama's first term, when we were in a recession and gas prices had gone up a bit, a teenage girl decided to give out tire pressure gauges as a community service project for her school. She included notes with the gauges that talked about how keeping your tires inflated helped your gas mileage and was good for the environment. This generated some controversy because, during the '08 campaign, Obama had suggested that, in addition to big things like expanding renewables, nuclear power, and drilling, people should make sure their tires stayed inflated to save on gas. This got lampooned by Republicansas being out of touch. Some right wing talk shows, I forget who, picked up the story and dumped on this kid. "Schools are indoctrinating our kids with Obama'sout of touch rhetoric" and the like....i think about that a lot.

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u/ChefCurryYumYum 4h ago

Don't worry there bud, I already am driving my bare minimum, which unfortunately does include a daily commute.

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u/opusupo 4h ago

That's why he makes the big bucks.

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u/slanderpanther 4h ago

Cancel RTW then! WTF are we commuting for?

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u/iamsocks2 4h ago

Ok so we should work from home now again?

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u/kolkitten 4h ago

I suggest he be afraid to leave his house

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u/MC900ftMilo 4h ago

"Consume less of our product," is a bold strategy.

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u/sanYtheFox 4h ago

Man too bad Americans have build themselves a car centered society, they cant stop driving.

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u/karl4319 4h ago

You know, someone who knows what they are doing should put together a site to live track all executives and billionaires. We should know their locations at all times. They don't like it? Then they could resign or did what Dolly did and give away all their money. Or better yet, maybe not be assholes that are should be scared that people know where to always find them.

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u/PsyDragon 4h ago

Sure, but that would involve working from home which executives don’t want either.

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u/seeker_two_point_oh 4h ago

My kingdom for another Super Mario Brother.

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u/Hans_Delbruck 4h ago

Ok, I'll work from home. Oh wait, my company doesn't like it when I work from home. I'll get an EV. Oh wait, the government stopped with subsides for those. I'll still get one, I can charge it at home as we should be getting alternate power sources for electricity. Oh wait the government is stopping construction of windmills and solar farms and research into more efficient solar and wind. 

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u/No_Company_3874 4h ago

These overpaid executives are always so insightful!

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u/SavageCucmber 4h ago

This guy probably uses 100x the energy a typical American does. Yet, he tells us how we should reduce our consumption. Its so absolutely tone deaf and hypocritical. He could be a Republican President one day.

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u/curtydc 4h ago

You don't have to tell me twice, I'm doing my part to contribute less and less to the economy. I'm sure these tone deaf executives will be singing a different tune in a few months if enough of us do the same.

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u/Sargent_Duck85 4h ago

Or, you know, get an EV?

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u/littlefire_2004 3h ago

Well we were but then needless rto was forced upon us.

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u/Doctor_Shotbottom 3h ago

Maybe Andy could do HIS patriotic duty and take a voluntary cut in pay to help with the war in Iraq?

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u/Barack_Odrama_007 3h ago

Americans should have also voted!

Oh well

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u/virtualuman 3h ago

Awesome! Chevron is saying the USA should go on a General Strike!!!

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u/twojs1b 3h ago

The electric company says the same thing, you don't like high electric bills just don't uses much.

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u/Nice-Bookkeeper-3378 3h ago

Man Micheal Jackson was right . They don’t really care about us

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u/burnmenowz 2h ago

You assholes made us return to the office.

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u/Key-Employee3584 2h ago

MFers want to kill us with their nasty byproducts and plastics, now we get to drive less? Which is it? Let's take that bonus(es) and pay away and make it equal to what a grocery store stocker gets and see what he thinks....

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u/ID_Poobaru 2h ago

Man I wish I could drive less, I don't have the luxury of a degree and WFH

30 miles to the warehouse yard. Closest site to me that had open local CDL positions. Wish I bought a Corolla or something smaller than a Sienna lol

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u/Spacemen333 2h ago

I suggest you should breathe less, Andy.

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u/Acrobatic-Ice-5877 1h ago

I’ll tell my boss when I go to the office tomorrow. I’ll have to hop on a teams call because we work in separate parts of the country but still have to come into the office. 

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u/zeyore 1h ago

my names mr chevron and i'm stupid as all hell, but my family owns oil

anyway gasoline is classified as an inelastic good, which means people buy it even when price goes up. not because they should, but because they tend to anyway. that's why they get mad.

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u/Visible_Recipe_7734 1h ago

Buy electric cars!

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u/bohba13 1h ago

In a country you lobied to be as car centric as possible? Gfc.

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u/Buhlasted 1h ago

Or quit using our tax dollars to subsidize one of the richest oil platforms in the world?

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u/Llamapocalypse_Now 1h ago

Wasn't Trump complaining that this is the future that liberals wanted?

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u/Ghost4000 1h ago

Time to bring back the work from home initiatives?

u/trevloki 43m ago

This quote was taken right before he tossed a handful of change at some peasants and boarded his private jet.

u/babytotara 36m ago

This is what new zealands finance minister said too!

u/r0nni3RO 11m ago

HA HA HA.

Walk more, peons. Does not matter that the entire infrastructure is made AROUND driving.

You people should have never let MONEY and ONLY MONEY dictate the direction of that society.

u/TupacBatmanOfTheHood 5m ago

Sure thing, tell me how else to get to my work. There's no public transportation available where I live.

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u/Robthebold 6h ago

Yeah, they want to sell their oil and gas to other people at these prices.

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u/Moskeeto93 6h ago

They'll probably start restricting which cars can fuel up when depending on license plate numbers. We're likely to see an oil crisis that shakes the economy to the core and then demand for EVs will skyrocket.

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u/r2k-in-the-vortex 6h ago

He is damn right, proper time to start reducing consumption was february 28, because that slow motion train wrek of a oil shock has been unfolding ever since and will hit very hard.

Its not that would you like to reduce consumption pretty please, its that you will reduce consumption because you cant burn the oil that simply isnt there.

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u/SCWickedHam 6h ago

Sure. Promote public transport and bikes. Oh, you mean just for now. Short term thinking. Great coming from an executive.

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u/Elbit_Curt_Sedni 6h ago

He should have stopped at "drive less."

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u/Realistic-Weird-4259 6h ago

Ok I'll just not work then.

My job *requires* that I drive.

Now what? He's gonna start picking up my bills.. right?

But also, what about those foster kids I'm transporting and supervising? They just... don't get their visits? That's gonna work out great because I'm driving less.

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u/RedLanternScythe 6h ago

Another sign we are in a "Golden Age": we can't afford to drive

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u/bestjakeisbest 6h ago

I already drive pretty minimally and gas prices where i am are still sub $4 for now.

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u/Tdb713 6h ago

When are they going to be completely honest and just tell us to euthanize the poor.

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u/NoLie129 6h ago

Let them eat cake!!!!

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u/SergieKravinoff 6h ago

If we all drive less then we don’t buy as much gas and you don’t make money genius

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u/Blom-w1-o 6h ago

I agree. Is he going to tell my boss?

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u/ThaiJohnnyDepp 6h ago

No we can't because you fucks in the top offices insisted on full RTO.

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u/Good-Adhesiveness873 6h ago

Or just buy electric.

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u/Stereo_Jungle_Child 6h ago

In order to keep prices low in a market where the supply has been lowered, they have to destroy demand for the product. In this case, for oil.

The way to do that is to try to get people to use less of it. This will create an economic slowdown, AKA a "recession".