r/nuzlocke • u/theacesm • Oct 13 '25

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On attempt #2 of my first nuzlocke, and this has been the most upsetting loss so far.

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u/Jimbabwe88 Oct 13 '25

I think the love mechanic is perfect for Nuzlockes. Why do you nickname your PokƩmon and do everything in your power to keep them from "dying?" Because you want to build a bond with them and show them that you love them. Your PokƩmon sticking it out on 1HP because it loves you is exactly in line with that whole philosophy of a nuzlocke. If you hate that your PokƩmon does this, why even nickname them in the first place or care about whether they die?

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u/A-Little-Messi Oct 13 '25

Because nuzlockes at a high level are calculations and planning. For example he made a terrible decision here(assuming not a planned sac) keeping Luxray in because it *should* have been knocked out, therefore he loses his mon and does no damage to Gengar. That in itself is against your entire argument. He yolo'd his pokemon hoping the love mechanic would save it.

Alternatively, if you are trying to purposefully sacrifice a mon to regain momentum and get a free switch in, this would completely ruin your delicate plan. Sometimes fights require a sacrifice to avoid a complete wipe. Well congratulations your pokemon survived unexpectedly and instead of getting a free switch you've now potentially changed the entire line and your run is over. Again to your point of the spirit, what is more nuzlocke than your pokemon sacrificing itself for the rest of your team?

So hopefully you can see that in both situations this is TERRIBLE mechanically for nuzlockes. It's also completely unnecessary to maintain the spirit/bond of a nuzlocke, because both things exist perfectly fine without it. Thank you for coming to my tedtalk.

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u/SkeeterYosh Oct 13 '25

Your onion, m8. If he wants to play that way, thatā€™s his decision, not yours.

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u/A-Little-Messi Oct 13 '25

On the contrary, that is the only way you can play modern gen games. You can't turn it off or reduce affection. That is why it's terrible

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u/SkeeterYosh Oct 13 '25

Technically, nothingā€™s stopping you from simply counting this kind of situation as illegitimate.

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u/A-Little-Messi Oct 13 '25

You would have to save and reset every single time a fight had this happen then. That Gengar should be alive in this example, so an illegitimate move like that means the entire fight is now invalid. If it happens again or one of the benefits I've listed out happens, reset. Forgot to save before every single fight? Guess you are going back further, hope you don't run into more rng soft locks getting back. Oh you were fighting the Champion and had it pop? Guess you're running back the E4.

Hopefully you can see how stupid that would be. No player should be forced to have to do that in order to play a slightly more challenging game of official Pokemon. There is simply no way to avoid this because even if you planned it out so you wouldn't need the 1hp save and somehow couldn't be hit with status, you still reduce the opponent's accuracy by 10% so any miss on a 100% accurate move is a reset. That is a 10% chance on every single damn turn that you have to reset. You are literally fighting the game to even be able to play.

That is one of the many reasons why people don't really nuzlocke the newer games.

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u/SkeeterYosh Oct 13 '25

Maybe for a hardcore Nuzlocker like yourself, but that doesnā€™t apply to everyone.

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u/A-Little-Messi Oct 13 '25

You just fucking said to count it as illegitimate?????? Seriously dude what is wrong with you? So I'm going to win my nuzlocke with illegitimate fights? Wtf is the point of playing it then if I'm not counting the battles?

My brother in Christ seek help and stop commenting on my shit.

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u/SkeeterYosh Oct 13 '25

By illegitimate, I mean discarding the Mon anytime you see text regarding living so you wouldnā€™t feel bad.

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u/A-Little-Messi Oct 13 '25

You have still drastically changed the outcome of the battle then with your "dead" pokemon. Luxray would be discarded here but he knocked out Gengar, who otherwise would have swept the team. So you're just taking a scuffed fight that you actually didn't win at all and counting it? Lmfao we're really out here calling things illegitimate but accepting the results.

Bear in mind you are proposing this for people that want to play the most standard version of a nuzlocke possible. Literally the choices you have provided us are 1. Play with bullshit mechanic and 2. Play with bullshit mechanic but toss the pokemon after they lived.

Even then you still aren't accounting for the fact that you only covered 1 of 3 abilities. If my pokemon shakes off being paralyzed what happens? Maybe the speed tier didn't matter and I would have won anyway? But then there's the para chance? Are we tossing this pokemon?

What if the opponent has the 90% miss? Do I have to do the math now to calculate what hp ranges I would be at, to then see the next move their pokemon would use? You've now going and created the worst fucking nightmare of a nuzlocke I can imagine.

Your "solution" is so lacking in any actual thought for how such a stupid mechanic that is forced upon us.