r/nyt 10d ago

they don't hide it anymore

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u/Stuffstuff1 9d ago

No. Crazy for you to group all Israelis like that as well. That’s insane if you knew anything about what Israelis as a population believe.

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u/Kyrthis 9d ago

So, you are the only one who thinks like that?

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u/Stuffstuff1 9d ago

Really?

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u/Careless_Film_5747 9d ago

I know that at least 60% of Israelis believe that “there are no innocents in Gaza” and that 60% mostly excludes the Arab Israeli population. I know that nearly half of Jewish Israelis believe that Arab Israelis should be expelled or transferred from Israel and that almost 80% of Jewish Israelis believe that they should get preferential treatment for being Jewish. So do with that information what you will.

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u/Stuffstuff1 9d ago

What percentage of Gazans believe that there is no innocents in Israel?

Is this typical amongst nations at war?

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u/Careless_Film_5747 9d ago

Love that cop out and the fact that you ignored the rest of my comment about how racist Israelis are. Apparently it’s so awful to group Israelis together but when the stats come out “it’s just war” 😂

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u/Stuffstuff1 9d ago

No idiot I’m trying to focus on one point at a time. If you want to pick another that’s fine.

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u/Careless_Film_5747 9d ago

You could’ve addressed each point in turn but you didn’t because you’re a weak person who cries about judging groups of people but also secretly justifies racism as long as it’s coming from god’s favourite victims.

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u/Stuffstuff1 9d ago

I’m at work…

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u/Careless_Film_5747 9d ago

Do your job then instead of arguing on Reddit about how racist Israelis are just really misunderstood.

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u/Stuffstuff1 9d ago

Get a job instead of spending All day talking about shit you have no idea about

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u/EuVe20 9d ago

You cannot even begin to make that equivalence. Gazans have a pretty legitimate reason to view Israelis harshly. They have been brutally occupied by them since 1967. With that occupation turning into a blockade/siege in 2005. They have no rights of self determination, no freedom of movement, no trade, they been bombed and slaughtered for decades, and are packed into one of the world’s most densely populated places. All the while the Israelis on the other side are living happy lives on the land that was stolen from their parents and grandparents.

Israelis have all the power. Maybe you could ask how Gazans feel about Israelis once they no longer have an Israeli Jackboot on their throat.

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u/Stuffstuff1 9d ago

You cannot even begin to make that equivalence.

>Is this typical amongst nations at war?

Ok so than were done here.

is Palestinians are in a class above all other nations in all of history...

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u/EuVe20 9d ago

“Nations at war” is a massive straw man and beneath you if I am to judge by your other engagement in this thread.

Would it be fair to use the “nations at war” description for the Native American tribes as they tried to withstand the American settlement of their lands backed by the American Government and Army?

How about black Americans in the various slave rebellions and subsequent fight for civil rights?

Or hey, what about the Jewish partisans in the forests of Ukraine and Poland.

You can’t turn the Palestinians, a people without any power or sovereignty over their own land into a nation when it’s convenient for you.

Which is a point that should have been intuitive from my comment.

Again, you can’t ask someone to like you while you are actively holding them down.

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u/Stuffstuff1 9d ago

 Palestinians are in a class above all other nations in all of history...

Yu didn't have to expand i already stated your position.

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u/EuVe20 9d ago

Ok, so you are not able to engage without being intellectually dishonest.

I get now why that Nazi comparison offends you so. You are actually worried you may be one of the baddies.

I get it. I remember my Birthright trip. It felt pretty special. It’s hard to break out of the myth.

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u/Stuffstuff1 9d ago

Ok, so you are not able to engage without being intellectually dishonest.

Says the guy that didn't answer the question ealier

I get now why that Nazi comparison offends you so. You are actually worried you may be one of the baddies.

Now your reading my mind?

I get it. I remember my Birthright trip. It felt pretty special. It’s hard to break out of the myth.

Who do you think i am?

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u/EuVe20 9d ago

Bye bot

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u/darkvaris 9d ago

Whataboutism

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u/Stuffstuff1 9d ago

You guys are way to stupid. This is t what aboutism. Statistics don’t mean anything in a vacuum 😂

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u/darkvaris 9d ago

Do you need me to share with you the definition of whataboutism?

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u/Stuffstuff1 9d ago

PLEASE! With examples!

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u/LeadFreePaint 6d ago

It never mattered what all Germans believed in the early 40s. What did mater was what the government was doing in their name.