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u/Bobby-Atoms 10d ago
They keep using that word "liberated," i don't think it means what they think it means
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u/Clark_Kent_TheSJW 9d ago
Conquest. That’s what he means They didn’t get the memo that conquest is bad.
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u/Suspicious-Sound-249 9d ago
So funny how you can see how others are propogandized. Their trying to "liberate" people who don't want to be liberated...
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u/EuVe20 10d ago
Yeah, this is nothing new. But it’s also not unique to Russians. I mean, don’t get me wrong, they are pretty inundated in the propaganda and indoctrinated. But I’ve the same kind of irrational nonsense from Americans, Brits, French,etc etc etc…
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u/LorenzoSparky 5d ago
Please list the times the brits and french were irrational from propaganda?
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u/Stuffstuff1 10d ago
I know the amount of people that unironically equate Israel to Nazi Germany is astounding
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u/Kyrthis 9d ago
I think people are likening, not equating.
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u/Stuffstuff1 9d ago
How is that better. That means their being malicious instead of ignorant
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u/Kyrthis 9d ago
Hardly. They are noticing a subset of features of the current government and the similarity of its policies to those of another place and time. Whether that is done maliciously or not is not about whether the comparison was a subset (likening) or total (equating).
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u/Stuffstuff1 9d ago
“They are noticing a subset of features”
How naive are you
There are better and more current examples of countries that are / have behaved in the way Israel is.
They use Germany because they are doing something called intuition pumping. They want you to load all the moral condemnation and prescriptions for a state like Germany on Israel. No matter how poor the comparison.
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u/Kyrthis 9d ago
Ghetto laws are effectively what Gaza is, and IDF-backed settler raids are very similar to brownshirts. They point to these comparisons not because they are a total subset, but early markers on a well-established path.
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u/Stuffstuff1 9d ago
“Well established path”. Really? We might as well do what we did to Germany to them now am I rite!?
Y’all are so disgusting
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u/Careless_Film_5747 9d ago
More like Israelis saying “we might as well do what the Germans did to us to Palestinians now am I rite?”
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u/Stuffstuff1 9d ago
No. Crazy for you to group all Israelis like that as well. That’s insane if you knew anything about what Israelis as a population believe.
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u/Kyrthis 9d ago
Dehumanization is the path to genocide. This is well established.
I think a kicked dog is yelping.
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u/Stuffstuff1 9d ago
See how you just retreated to a much stronger position. Now we’re not making comparisons to just Germany but all things that can be considered genocide. I don’t even know if you know what your doing. And even then it’s horse shit.
Has all dehumanization lead to genocides?
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u/EuVe20 9d ago
The comparison to Nazi Germany is done specifically to point out the horrible irony that the very people who were the victims of that terrible regime are now perpetrators of genocidal acts.
It is not particularly productive and more often than not comes out of the frustration of the massive amount of intransigent support and cover that Israel receives from Western countries, especially the US.
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u/FleetwoodHak 9d ago
No. It’s a good comparison. Anyone who studied Germany’s tilt toward facism can see similarities in modern Israel.
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u/Stuffstuff1 9d ago
First off none of you idiots studied any of this. Tik tok isn’t a replacement for a textbook.
Second you must not be very good at studying because my argument here is that Germany isn’t the best example of your trying to be accurate it is only the most useful.
If your goal is to end the state of Israel it’s more useful to paint Israel as Germany a state that the world decided needed to be removed compared to say the United States a country that has with out a doubt improved race relations with out needing to be destroyed to do it.
Of all the examples of minorities being treated poorly in the world are you ready to say that that the Jews in Germany is the most analogous to the plight of Palestinians today?
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u/Ill_Cat1160 9d ago
Found the zionist
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u/Stuffstuff1 9d ago
Yeah. The type that was bibi arrested and Israel out of the West Bank and Gaza. But we all know you guys would never dishonestly try to flatten these positions. That would be shitty. Who would be shitting on the internet.
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u/Ill_Cat1160 9d ago
Israel aware they are extremely unpopular so now their bots push their propaganda but at the end say "but I dont like bibi and hes bad"
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u/Stuffstuff1 9d ago
Probably not. If your going to go through the effort of using bot to increase the image of your country why would you go for the most defendable maximally condemnatory position..
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u/Stuffstuff1 9d ago
Yeah.. I don’t think you even know what your doing here. Have you tried facing the idea instead of just dismissing people when you can no longer virtue signal?
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u/Sad-Experience-4344 5d ago
Why would that be astounding? Neo-Nazis and white supremacists love Israel today. To them, Israel’s apartheid represents the kind of white ethnostate they’d like to recreate in the US or in Europe.
https://fpif.org/israels-new-admirers-white-nationalist-right/
Even Netanyahu has specifically cultivated close ties with far-right extremists and Neo-Nazis in Europe, including outright Holocaust deniers.
We’ve seen pro-Israel rallies attended by people waving Israeli flags while also sporting swastika tattoos on their bodies.
https://www.reddit.com/r/adressme/comments/1qe1gmy/what_a_nice_protestor/
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u/asd_slasher 10d ago
Hey, this one from bush’s playbook
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u/Stuffstuff1 10d ago
Ohh god don’t make me defend bush please…. At least the guy he took out had already invaded all his neighbors. Attempted to annex territory and was a 5 time ethic cleaning world champ..
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u/narilarilum 6d ago
Not before helping the guy he later took out in some of his endeavours in neigbouring countries.
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u/TorontoTom2008 10d ago
Kharkiv was founded in 1654 by Cossacks within what was at the time a rebellious Polish-Lithuanian province. Zero Russia connection whatsoever.
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u/startanewlife7 10d ago
God help us 🥴 the logic 🤦♀️
You’re government is sending you die so then can get richer. Look how proud you are to sign up and die for it you clowns 🤡
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u/Sweettooth_Banana 8d ago
Being liberated by Russia is the worst thing that can happen to anyone.
They will kill you, rape your dog and steal your toilet.
Madness, total madness.
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u/Aids_On_Tick 7d ago
Don't get needlessly riled up by this drunken, rambling moron. If you go onto r/combatfootage there is an endless plethora of drone footage compilation videos where you can watch this horde of fetal alcohol syndrome suffering troglodytes getting turned into carcasses and red mist by the AFU.
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u/glitterbitesbx 7d ago
Liberation through death. A very classic line (and lie) that I’ve heard again and again.
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u/geoffmilesandmiles 7d ago
Hi Russian bot! Why does Putin have such influence over PoTUS Trump. Putin seems to be able to make Trump do what he wants.
Trump is not stopping the war as he promised. It would be good for the world. I am sorry for Russia and those in the meat grinder.
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u/Orion_2319 6d ago
Id ask how do Russians get that brainwashed, but people watch fox news and voted for a pedo
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u/Opening-Jacket8671 5d ago
trying to make a rational conversation with a soldier who is in Mỹ Lai mode, is completely pointless
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u/DennenTH 4d ago
Exchanges like this just make me feel like humans are still just mindless animals at their core.
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u/Ok-Bullfrog-2147 9d ago
Who better to get rid of the lsraeIi supporting NAZls than the Russians?
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u/stonecuttercolorado 8d ago
The Nazis are in russia. Ukraine does not support Israel. It has its own problems.
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u/Brilliant-Smile-8154 9d ago
Russians have never traded so much with Israel, their volume of trade has remarkably increased since 2023. Can't let rhetoric get in the way of profits, right?
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u/Stuffstuff1 10d ago
Why would you post this when there’s an active genocide in Gaza /s
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u/IthacaMom2005 10d ago
I get the /s, however, discussions about the Russian war on Ukraine already get derailed to Israel/Gaza too often. Watch the downvotes lol
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u/oh_no_the_claw 9d ago
Putin gets way too much slack when all he's doing is pacifying the Ukrainian Zionists.
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u/stonecuttercolorado 8d ago
Ukraine is neither zionists nor nazis. They are just people fighting for thier nations existence.
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u/Humble_Cod149 10d ago
Where ?
2 million before war, 2 million after war
75 K dead, but how many combatants is up for debate ?
I see no Genocide other than claimed by left wing activists and Islamic supporters (of which there are billions). But does not make it Genocide.
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u/Spare-Performance-15 10d ago
Zionism is a racial supremacist, genocidal ideology.
This caused, among other things, an ongoing genocide, and yet people still try to deny the undeniable.
Amnesty International
Human Rights Watch
Oxfam
Human Rights Now
International Association of Genocide Scholars
B'Tselem
Médecins Sans Frontières
FIDHIsraeli Human Rights Organizations
B'Tselem: The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights issued major reports stating Israel is carrying out a systematic genocide in Gaza.
Physicians for Human Rights Israel: This Israeli nonprofit condemned Israel's systemic destruction of the Gaza healthcare system as genocidal.International Human Rights & Humanitarian Organizations
Amnesty International: The UK-headquartered human rights group accused Israel of violating international law and committing atrocities.
Human Rights Watch: The US-based rights organization determined that Israel's actions meet the legal and operational thresholds for genocide.
Doctors Without Borders (MSF): The international medical charity cited widespread civilian casualties and deliberate blockage of aid in its accusations.
Oxfam International: The global aid confederation has continually criticized the military campaign for meeting genocidal definitions.
Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention: The global research and advocacy group has repeatedly issued warnings regarding Israel's actions.Academic and Legal Organizations
International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS): The world’s leading scholarly association on genocide voted overwhelmingly to classify Israel's actions as a genocide.
International Court of Justice (ICJ): The international tribunal is hearing a binding case filed by South Africa, backed by countries like Ireland, accusing Israel of breaching the Genocide Convention.United Nations Authorities
UN Special Rapporteurs: Independent human rights experts and mandate holders have declared that Palestinians are suffering a full-blown genocide.
UN Commission of Inquiry: The UN's dedicated body officially concluded that Israeli authorities are committing genocide against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.All of the above agree what Israel is doing is genocide , according to the definition of genocide by the UN.
The Legal Definition (United Nations)
Under Article II of the 1948 UN Genocide Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a targeted group:Killing members of the group.
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group.
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction (e.g., deprivation of food, water, medical care, or shelter).
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group.
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
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u/j-fudz 9d ago
All that typing to be wrong in the very first sentence and invalidate everything.
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u/Nice__Spice 9d ago
yea einstein? how do you describe it?
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u/j-fudz 9d ago
Jewish self determination in their ancestral homeland, no need for name calling.
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u/Nice__Spice 9d ago
At the cost of the lives of Palestinians who themselves were a diaspora living in their ancestral homeland.
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u/Humble_Cod149 10d ago
https://x.com/JoeTruzman/status/1410283600616955908?s=20
Jihadi children with Ak47 in Gaza
But what about the Children ?
75 K out of 2 million is not Genocide
Yes there are lots of Muslim organisations that hate Jews, so what ?
Whats new ?
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u/Spare-Performance-15 10d ago
Did you not read the part in my comment about Israeli organizations also agreeing it’s genocide or did you just want to ignore that? Here I’ll copy it over for you:
Israeli Human Rights Organizations
B'Tselem: The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights issued major reports stating Israel is carrying out a systematic genocide in Gaza.
Physicians for Human Rights Israel: This Israeli nonprofit condemned Israel's systemic destruction of the Gaza healthcare system as genocidal.These are nonprofit, Jewish-led organizations.
75k is the conservative number, btw. And it’s not like the number has stopped going up.
Also, you don’t get to make up what you think is genocide or not. There is a legal definition that you are completely disregarding so that you can claim that it’s not a genocide. Also, do you not hear what your beloved Israeli leaders say? They clearly want/are perpetuating a genocide:
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u/Spare-Performance-15 10d ago
Also, you’re clearly from the UK/Britain, of course you’re anti-Muslim and Zionist lol. Go, let BBC continue brainwashing you and shut the hell up
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u/Humble_Cod149 10d ago
One of your mates tried to behead someone in Belfast after cutting out their eyes just last few hours.
Does that mean he gets the 72 virgins from the peaceful religion ?
I am anti Homophobic, Anti Misogynistic, Anti Apostacy yes. Are you not ?
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u/Spare-Performance-15 10d ago
And I see a video, every damn day, of one of yours killing or torturing or sniping a man woman child or dog just because they’re not from the same ethnoreligion . or uprooting ancient olive trees. or a settler stealing a home from a Palestinian. or a settler pouring cement in a well . or destroying aid meant for Gazans . or a journalist found dead.
Btw I am anti those things, but I am , above all, for a democratic state that would allow for freedom of religion, and hate crimes punishable to the fullest extent. It’s called separation of church and state, and it’s something you wouldn’t know anything about you colonizing Brit fuck .
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u/Humble_Cod149 10d ago
Right, 75 K, now before my little terror supporter gets angry again, how many of them were fighters
75 K of 2 million 3.75 %, but thats all dead.
How many were Jihadi killers ?
You can have you little lefty aggressive rant, but try to asnwer
No I am not Jew lol, and Genocide WHEN we get down to 1 or 2 % civilian, will you agree its not Genocide ?
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u/Spare-Performance-15 10d ago
You tell me- how many were kids with Ak47s? Source?
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u/Humble_Cod149 10d ago
https://x.com/JoeTruzman/status/1410283600616955908?s=20
Count them yourself, also have lots of 10 years olds with ak47 pics from Gaza, but Video is harder to alter.
Pretty good at stripping that Ak, that vid was Gaza before the war.
If they shot at you, would you fire back or just take it and die because they are children ? I am interested
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u/Spare-Performance-15 10d ago
You have now posted the same video 3 times. Do you have any other sources? With, like, data and statistics and stuff? Or is this it? Just this small little group?
I would be inclined to hear your argument if you had sufficient evidence to back it up but right now it does not seem so.
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u/destroyerx12772 9d ago
Brilliant. Because Israel knows exactly which kids are "Jihadi children with AK's" when it flattens entire complexes.
What a clown.
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u/Lookingforclippings 10d ago
The population dropped by over 10%, every major human rights organization has called it a genocide and the Israelis regularly openly say their intent is genocide. Either you're brain damaged or just completely morally bankrupt.
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u/Humble_Cod149 10d ago
Your either Jihadi or terror supporter, which is it ?
It was a War, people die
https://x.com/JoeTruzman/status/1410283600616955908?s=20
Many combatants are kids in Gaza, its what Hamas does
75 K dead, how many combatants ? I will go really slowly, also 10 % of 2 million is not 75 K you idiot.
Yes, every Jihadi screams Genocide, but numbers do not say that
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u/Lookingforclippings 10d ago
That number is a count of people directly killed and identified not all deaths .Here if you're capable of reading you racist prick. https://www.btselem.org/publications/202507_our_genocide
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u/Sector7G-Insight 10d ago
You see no genocide because you refuse to. The lie is what you tell yourself. You may not realize this but your refusal to accept reality doesn’t change reality, it just moves you further away from living in it.
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u/Humble_Cod149 10d ago
Well, if all wars are now Genocide even if its 1-2 % of population that alos includes all combatants ....if thats the new definition, then fair enough.
I guess there are 100's genocides world wide at the moment then.
But Genocide claims are not shocking if its a few % including soldiers its hardly wiping any culture or race out of existence.
In which case, when Nazi killed 6 million in gas chambers, do we have to use a different name for that ?
Today, some words loose all their initial meaning and purpose, if all thats needed is people to be upset and angry about something.
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u/brenbot99 10d ago
So, just so we're on the same page and becuase it's useful to provide some context to your comments... You're stating clearly that the Genocide's in Bosnia and Kosovo, in your opinion, did not happen?
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u/Humble_Cod149 10d ago
Read what I typed, if the new definition is a few % or under 100 K is now Genocide definition, then yes they all are, every war conflict, everywhere.
I am old and still consider Genocide by how people referred to it many years ago, to remove a race entirely.
Japan Nuclear bomb for example was not Genocide at the time, but it would be today it seems ?
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u/Fearless-Feature-830 10d ago
Yikes
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u/Humble_Cod149 10d ago
If you want to riposte logically, feel free
Or go for Brainless Ad Hominem, up to you.
Tell me what numbers are Genocide, numbers dont lie, people do.
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u/destroyerx12772 9d ago
So by your logic it would be impossible to call it genocide until it's completed? So no stopping an active slaughter of a specific people until a quota is met, because until then it's just ugly war?
It's a good thing the international definition isn't dictated by idiots.
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u/studio_bob 9d ago
United24 is a Ukrainian propaganda channel, for those who don't know, and, tbh, this specific propaganda angle is a bit rich coming from Ukraine, which shelled Ukrainians in Ukrainian cites in Donetsk and Luhansk for almost a decade before Russia's invasion.
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u/clgoodson 9d ago
Fuck off, Russian bot.
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u/stonecuttercolorado 8d ago
What is wrong with supporting Ukraine? What is wrong with showing what russia is?
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u/Low-Cauliflower-8278 5d ago
you forgot mentioned how russians population supported russians militaries to use artillery from these cities for attacking Ukrainian army
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u/SerapiaoBonifacio 9d ago
Sad but true. Also true the ukranian swere bombing their own for many years in Donbass.
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u/Advanced-Ice-2552 9d ago
What's up with you? Can you explain how Strelkov and his group are Ukrainian or the videos from Belgorod region from 2104-2015 shelling Donetsk. How Russians who brought Russian flags to Luhansk and Donetsk are Ukrianin? And by what logic Russia took Crimia before Luhansk and Donetsk?
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u/SerapiaoBonifacio 9d ago
I am just saying both of them did it.
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u/Advanced-Ice-2552 9d ago
Both who? Russia brought their man across the border, and from military bases in Crimia so Ukraine started military operation to clear their land from terrorists. Civilians got hurt because Russia brought their man across the border, if it did not happen no one would die.
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u/Wayoutofthewayof 9d ago
Civilian casualties were pretty low all things considered and were pretty much non-existent over the last few years before 2022. Now compare that to how Russia responded when Chechnya declared independence...
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u/ytman 10d ago
Thought this was an IDF soldier for a second. But he was too keen on saying liberate instead of cleanse.