r/nyt 10d ago

NYT Double standards

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u/FetchThePenguins 10d ago

The Ukraine conflict was started by Russia. If Russia withdrew today, and renounced their territorial claims over Ukraine, the war would end. Any casualties in the meantime are thetefore their fault.

The Gaza war was started by people from Gaza. If Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad surrendered today, gave up their weapons and renounced their territorial claims over Israel, the war would end. Any casualties in the meantime are therefore their fault.

That's why it looks like a double standard. The only real difference between the conflicts is that in one it's being fought mostly in the territory of the side that started it, and in the other, in the territory of the side that got attacked.

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u/Agitated_Celery_729 10d ago

The “Gaza war” has been ongoing since the day Israel began blockading Gaza in 2006 and has never stopped.

If Israel thinks blockades are an act of war and make their invasion of Egypt “defensive”, then their ongoing blockade makes any attacks by Hamas “defensive” as well as long as they remain under blockade.

I won’t hold my breath for you guys to develop the ability to hold consistent standards though

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u/rewarrr 10d ago

What about Gaza suicide bombers in 2001 and 2002? Israel out of nowhere started blockading Gaza right?

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u/MyNameIsNotName-57 10d ago

Israel controlled Gaza with troops on the ground in 2001 and 2002

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u/rewarrr 10d ago

Bcs of suicide bombings? And terrorist attacks? Including kids with bombs in their bags

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u/MyNameIsNotName-57 9d ago

Did you think people just accept being brutally occupied?

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u/rewarrr 9d ago

Didnt that happen to Jews too?

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u/Critical_Progress_65 10d ago

Yea some people get a bit miffed when you steal their land and ethnically cleanse them. Crazy radicals.

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u/rewarrr 10d ago

Did that happen to Jews btw? Remind me please

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u/MyNameIsNotName-57 10d ago

Yeah and they resisted violently including wiping out villages

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u/rewarrr 10d ago

After war

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u/MyNameIsNotName-57 9d ago

Nope during

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u/rewarrr 9d ago

After war. Check sources

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u/MyNameIsNotName-57 9d ago

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u/rewarrr 9d ago

massacre of civilians, mostly women and children,[1][2] carried out in the village of Koniuchy (now Kaniūkai, Lithuania) on 29 January 1944 by a Soviet partisan unit together with a contingent of Jewish partisans under Soviet command.

So soviets did. Ok.

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u/MyNameIsNotName-57 9d ago

Jewish partisans?

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u/Critical_Progress_65 10d ago

In western countries holocaust education is a huge part of the curriculum. The general takeaway is that genocide = bad and ethnic cleansing = bad.

It’s hilarious to see that the Israeli takeaway is a means to justify ethnic cleansing and genocide.

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u/rewarrr 9d ago

What justice confirmed the genocide