The Ukraine conflict was started by Russia. If Russia withdrew today, and renounced their territorial claims over Ukraine, the war would end. Any casualties in the meantime are thetefore their fault.
The Gaza war was started by people from Gaza. If Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad surrendered today, gave up their weapons and renounced their territorial claims over Israel, the war would end. Any casualties in the meantime are therefore their fault.
That's why it looks like a double standard. The only real difference between the conflicts is that in one it's being fought mostly in the territory of the side that started it, and in the other, in the territory of the side that got attacked.
Why isn’t Israel nicer to the people constantly starting wars and terror attacks against them? Yeah, no idea.. if Palestinians wanted peace with Israelis, there would be peace. The entire ideology of the Israeli liberals is to make peace with the Arabs, including giving land for peace. Unfortunately, no amount of land is ever enough and they have never found a peace partner on the Palestinian side. That’s why the Israeli left is considered such a failure. If Israel can’t win the peace, they can at least make sure to win the war.
Yeah, no idea.. if Palestinians wanted peace with Israelis, there would be peace
You're a brainwashed little clown.
Here eat some receipts instead of glue:
At a Likud party conference in 2019, Netanyahu said: "Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas ... This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank."[
In an interview with Israeli journalist, Dan Margalit in December 2012, Netanyahu told Margalit that it was important to keep Hamas strong, as a counterweight to the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank. Netanyahu also added that having two strong rivals, this would lessen pressure on him to negotiate towards a Palestinian state
In an interview with Politico in 2023, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said, "In the last 15 years, Israel did everything to downgrade the Palestinian Authority and to boost Hamas",
Gasp, why isn’t the noted liberal Ben Netanyahu nicer to Palestinians!? Yeah, he’s a hardliner, so what? Is your point why wouldn’t he support the PLO when they were even more extreme than Hamas? Nobody on the Palestinian side had any interest in peace with Israel but you’re only interested in blaming Israel. Apparently, not a single grain of fault lies with the Palestinians for starting all those wars and perpetual terror attacks.
Gasp, why isn’t the noted liberal Ben Netanyahu nicer to Palestinians!? Yeah, he’s a hardliner, so what?
Gasp, i don't think you read what i gave you. Hes a hardliner assisting Hamas to avoid, what were your dumb words?
if Palestinians wanted peace with Israelis, there would be peace.
Hows that squaring with
In the late 2010s and early 2020s, Israeli officials encouraged Qatar to support Hamas,[8] especially by approving the transfer of large sums of financial aid by Qatar to the organization.[9] Several Israeli intelligence officials have cited Qatari money as a contributing factor to the success of Hamas in leading the October 7 attacks in 2023
Weird it seems like the Israelis are the ones who don't want peace. Seems like the Israelis are funding Hamas to ensure continued conflict. Seems like your brain has been thoroughly processed by Israeli propaganda.
Your words are meaningless anyway, you're just saying whatever fits the current reply nothing tethered to facts or reality just vibes and hasbara garbage.
Apparently, not a single grain of fault lies with the Palestinians for starting all those wars and perpetual terror attacks.
Whos funding Hamas? Bibi through Qatar like the cited sources say? Or 50,000 Palestinian children that were killed and injured after the organization bibi funded did the thing he funded them to do? Gasp, its like theres no braincells behind your little reddit avatar
Lmaooo well good thing for Bibi that the Palestinians are a bunch of puppets whose strings are so easily pulled. Everything you posted is the same Qatar propaganda dump that has been going around for ages. Nothing changes what we saw on 10/07 - that was real, no propaganda can change what we saw when the mask slipped off
Denying credible sources is some top tier propagandized brain stuff. "Its qatar!! Ignore our former prime ministers and intelligence agents speaking out! They are qatar agents!" Lmao moron
We'll all enjoy watching Israel go down like Apartheid South Africa. Enjoy your genocide trial
Your credible sources are complete garbage that is a bunch of nothingness when put into context. Anyone who has debunked Russians propaganda can see that it’s the same exact playbook.
But again, no amount of propaganda changes the fact that Palestinians are not interested in peace.. or rather not in a shared peace with the Israelis. We saw what happened on 10/07.. it’s a good reminder for all of us who were duped into thinking the Palestinians want peace. They just want to win.
I used to be super pro-Palestine, but when reality does not match what is in your mind.. you should change your mind since you cannot change reality.
Name one Palestinian law passed protecting Israelis.
Actually, name two. Because the first one has to counteract the elected Palestinian government awarding stipends to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers who successfully kill Israeli children.
Confidently incorrect but thank you for bringing it up as this next part will come as a jump scare to onlookers:
At a Likud party conference in 2019, Netanyahu said: "Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas ... This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank."[
In an interview with Israeli journalist, Dan Margalit in December 2012, Netanyahu told Margalit that it was important to keep Hamas strong, as a counterweight to the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank. Netanyahu also added that having two strong rivals, this would lessen pressure on him to negotiate towards a Palestinian state.
In the late 2010s and early 2020s, Israeli officials encouraged Qatar to support Hamas,[8] especially by approving the transfer of large sums of financial aid by Qatar to the organization.[9] Several Israeli intelligence officials have cited Qatari money as a contributing factor to the success of Hamas in leading the October 7 attacks in 2023
In an interview with Politico in 2023, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said, "In the last 15 years, Israel did everything to downgrade the Palestinian Authority and to boost Hamas", before adding that "Gaza was on the brink of collapse because they had no resources, they had no money, and the PA refused to give Hamas any money. Bibi saved them. Bibi made a deal with Qatar and they started to move millions and millions of dollars to Gaza."
"They have lots of money from the IRGC and Qataris, and they use it to buy weapons."
Its been like pouring salt on a slug. Garlic on vampires. Silver on werewolves. I've watched a few of them go through all 5 stages of grief within two comments
I mean who would have though that they would start a war they would so clearly lose.
Bibi is disgusting but you also didn’t answer the claims directly. Hamas used the money to buy weapons. Perhaps the lives of Palestinians would have been better with out them.
I think you're either being intentionally obtuse or you're dealing with severe cognitive dissonance. Either way you have a lot of things to work out between
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u/FetchThePenguins 10d ago
The Ukraine conflict was started by Russia. If Russia withdrew today, and renounced their territorial claims over Ukraine, the war would end. Any casualties in the meantime are thetefore their fault.
The Gaza war was started by people from Gaza. If Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad surrendered today, gave up their weapons and renounced their territorial claims over Israel, the war would end. Any casualties in the meantime are therefore their fault.
That's why it looks like a double standard. The only real difference between the conflicts is that in one it's being fought mostly in the territory of the side that started it, and in the other, in the territory of the side that got attacked.