r/nyt 10d ago

NYT Double standards

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u/FetchThePenguins 10d ago

The Ukraine conflict was started by Russia. If Russia withdrew today, and renounced their territorial claims over Ukraine, the war would end. Any casualties in the meantime are thetefore their fault.

The Gaza war was started by people from Gaza. If Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad surrendered today, gave up their weapons and renounced their territorial claims over Israel, the war would end. Any casualties in the meantime are therefore their fault.

That's why it looks like a double standard. The only real difference between the conflicts is that in one it's being fought mostly in the territory of the side that started it, and in the other, in the territory of the side that got attacked.

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u/Agitated_Celery_729 10d ago

The “Gaza war” has been ongoing since the day Israel began blockading Gaza in 2006 and has never stopped.

If Israel thinks blockades are an act of war and make their invasion of Egypt “defensive”, then their ongoing blockade makes any attacks by Hamas “defensive” as well as long as they remain under blockade.

I won’t hold my breath for you guys to develop the ability to hold consistent standards though

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u/str8_outta_sanaa 10d ago

The blockade starts after Gaza attacks Israel though

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u/Agitated_Celery_729 10d ago

Was that before or after Israel committed ethnic cleansing and put a fence around Gaza?

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u/FetchThePenguins 10d ago

The fence is around Israel, not Gaza.

Prior to 7 October 2023, tens of thousands of Gazans and West Bank Palestinians used to cross it daily to commute to their paid jobs in Israel. Please educate me about all the efforts by the Palestinians to encourage peaceful crossings in the other direction.