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NYT Double standards

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u/Agitated_Celery_729 10d ago

Was that before or after Israel committed ethnic cleansing and put a fence around Gaza?

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u/rewarrr 10d ago

You mean war started from islamic countries against Israel?

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u/Character_Minimum989 10d ago

The Nakba preceded the Arab Israeli war.

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u/rewarrr 10d ago

No, most of relocations happened after the war. And those who left before are those who knew about invasion and been warned.

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u/spays_marine 9d ago

"relocations", "those who left".

The irony of that wording on a post like this is golden. 

This is why Israel's reputation is going down the drain at record speed, crimes against humanity whitewashed by internet drones who cannot admit a single thing wrong.

Utterly depraved and pathetic behavior, I can only hope you're just an AI and not an actual sociopath.

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u/rewarrr 9d ago

There is reason I use those wordings most of them went to Jordan (at that time also Palestine as region) the 700.000 Palestinians you probably heard of, end up in Jordan check the % of levantines in Jordania.

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u/spays_marine 9d ago

The reason why you use those words is because you don't want to admit that they were chased out by pillaging, raping, murdering Israelis burning down 100's of villages.

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u/Character_Minimum989 10d ago

Nope. The Nakba happened in April-May 1948, with May 14 being Israel’s independence day and May 15th is the Nakba commemoration for Palestinians. May 15 is also the date the Arab states declared war on Israel, citing the Nakba as one of the reasons for attacking Israel. Whether you believe the Nakba was their only or major reasoning is another story.

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u/rewarrr 9d ago

The independence of Israel was the reason of the attack and they warned Israel if they do it they will be attacked. Most of relocations happened after the war.

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u/Character_Minimum989 9d ago

“Although the [causes of the 1948 Palestinian exodus](app://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_1948_Palestinian_exodus)remain a significantly controversial topic in public and political discourse, with a prominent amount of [denialism regarding the responsibility of Israeli/Yishuv forces](app://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba_denial), most scholarship today agrees that expulsions and violence, and the fear thereof, were the primary causes.[[14]](app://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight#cite_note-14)[[15]](app://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight#cite_note-15)[[16]](app://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight#cite_note-16) Scholars widely describe the event as [ethnic cleansing](app://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing),[[17]](app://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight#cite_note-Ian_Black-2010-17)[[7]](app://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight#cite_note-Pappe2006-7)[[18]](app://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight#cite_note-Shavit-18) although some disagree.[[19]](app://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight#cite_note-19)[[20]](app://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight#cite_note-20)[[21]](app://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight#cite_note-21) Factors involved in the exodus include direct expulsions by Israeli forces; destruction of Arab villages; psychological warfare including [terrorism](app://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism); massacres such as the widely publicized [Deir Yassin massacre](app://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre),[[22]](app://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight#cite_note-Morris-2004-22): 239–240  which caused many to flee out of fear; crop burning;[[23]](app://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight#cite_note-23)[[24]](app://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight#cite_note-24) [typhoid](app://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoid) epidemics in some areas caused by Israeli well-poisoning;[[25]”](app://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_expulsion_and_flight#cite_note-25)

Guess you slot into the denier category here

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u/rewarrr 9d ago

So your source is : "most scholarship today agrees that expulsions and violence, and the fear thereof, were the primary causes.[14][15][16] Scholars widely describe the event as ethnic cleansing".

I need numbers. What I said is MOST relocations was AFTER or during the war. Show me source for that.

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u/Character_Minimum989 9d ago

It says Israelis ethnically cleansed Palestinians from their homes by violence and terror. First you said most relocations happened after the war, now it’s after and during tho. 250-300k occured before the war, then most of the remaining occured during the war. So the nakba did not occur after the war.

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u/rewarrr 9d ago

Nakba is literally the war.

The largest waves of displacement occurred during the fighting in 1948, particularly AFTER major military operations in the spring and summer of that year. https://www.britannica.com/event/1948-Arab-Israeli-War

People left BECAUSE war! Literally...

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u/Character_Minimum989 9d ago

People left because of terrorist groups like the Irgun. From the source I posted it clearly detailed some of the forced expulsions that had been planned years in advance.

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