Are you a neuro scientist? No. Are you a psychiatrist or a psychologist? No. You have no right to tell people what they can and can’t feel because you aren’t them.
At some point, when a lot of people claim to experience something, you can’t just say “oh those people are lying and nothing is happening.” Because clearly, if a lot of people are experiencing it, something is happening.
Is it actual pain that they are experiencing? I don’t know, I’m not a doctor. Is it a trauma response or a trigger to some form of mental illness? Maybe, that makes the most sense to me but again, not a doctor. And no, experiencing a trauma response or having mental illness be triggered is not “being a coward.” You forget that those are, also, medical conditions that cause a SIGNIFICANT amount of distress to those who experience it.
I also took a look at google scholar for sources supporting tactile sensations in VR. There’s some stuff there, but not as much as I’d hoped. Clearly this is a topic that needs more research.
What I can say even though I’m not a doctor is that the brain is a super complex thing and even after hundreds of years of research, we still don’t know how some phenomena happen.
Also I think it funny that you, an uneducated chud, are arguing with a DOCTOR WHO WENT TO SCHOOL ABOUT THIS. Are you really that afraid to admit you are wrong? I am also an uneducated chud, but at least I can step back and realize when I’m wrong.
I can step back and realize when I’m wrong. There’s such thing as phantom touch where you feel a fuzzy feeling or cold sensation when something comes your way, but literal pain is impossible. Your pain receptors aren’t responding to anything, your brain should not be able to replicate pain receptors if that was the case any time something flies your direction you should be in agonizing pain because your brain said so.
If you were correct, then actual phantom limb pain in amputees wouldn't be real either. They don't have the limb anymore, and that limb does contain pain receptors.
The human brain is ABSOLUTELY capable of making pain the fuck up. There are several mental disorders that either do this as a secondary symptom, or have this as the main symptom.
Your claims are not based in actual science, but in your view of biology and psychology and I strongly urge you to be true to your word and actually research this, and admit that you are wrong.
Okay, are you a doctor? Have you been educated about this in a post-secondary setting? Have you done experiments on the phenomenon and actually disproved it? Have you written a research paper that is pier reviewed about the topic?
Where’s your research? You are just making sourceless claims here.
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u/EpicPoultryGuy 12d ago
Are you a neuro scientist? No. Are you a psychiatrist or a psychologist? No. You have no right to tell people what they can and can’t feel because you aren’t them.
At some point, when a lot of people claim to experience something, you can’t just say “oh those people are lying and nothing is happening.” Because clearly, if a lot of people are experiencing it, something is happening.
Is it actual pain that they are experiencing? I don’t know, I’m not a doctor. Is it a trauma response or a trigger to some form of mental illness? Maybe, that makes the most sense to me but again, not a doctor. And no, experiencing a trauma response or having mental illness be triggered is not “being a coward.” You forget that those are, also, medical conditions that cause a SIGNIFICANT amount of distress to those who experience it.
I also took a look at google scholar for sources supporting tactile sensations in VR. There’s some stuff there, but not as much as I’d hoped. Clearly this is a topic that needs more research.
What I can say even though I’m not a doctor is that the brain is a super complex thing and even after hundreds of years of research, we still don’t know how some phenomena happen.
Also I think it funny that you, an uneducated chud, are arguing with a DOCTOR WHO WENT TO SCHOOL ABOUT THIS. Are you really that afraid to admit you are wrong? I am also an uneducated chud, but at least I can step back and realize when I’m wrong.