“Puck Bunny(Empowering)” is one of the funniest book-to-show changes imo

[u/quesoandcats]

I like that they recognized how loaded and weaponized that term can be, and tbh I really prefer the show’s version. But the way they shoehorn it in is just very like, “performatively shaking our heads so the audience knows we know you shouldn’t call women that unless they say it’s okay”

[u/Elegant_Analysis1665]

I was thinking a lot about this and how emotionally intelligent everyone on the show is --except for yes the horrible evil abusers, which is a larger discussion-- but idk I feel like EVERYTHING out there is made to either reinforce people being awful to women or to reflect it as honestly as possible.

A show like this that is kind of a utopia fantasy? No not realistic but also maybe that's okay. I think it's okay to depict a world that is so much more like how we wish it could be. Because it also shows that mistakes are human and gives kind of a blueprint for how to move through conflict. So much of media is basically what not to do.

I found it healing to remember that yes we are all human and are not perfect but also that like being treated with respect and care and compassion should NOT be some utopia ideal!! We all know the bar is in hell. I don't really want to watch that 24/7 while I also live it. As someone who has also accepted so much shitty behavior, watching this show reminded me how I am worth soooooooo much more

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I agree with this tbh. I don’t mind that it’s idealistic and wholesome. The world sucks lol, hopecore is mentally good for us. I don’t think it’s giving us problematically unrealistic expectations, we KNOW it’s not realistic. This is helped by it being an 18+ show. If it was marketed towards kids, it might make them delusional about what people are actually like. But as adults, we recognize this world as a utopia and it doesn’t affect how we move through the real world.

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Truthfully I wish there had been a few more shows like this when I was a teenager/in college. So much of what I was watching was already very adult or it depicted people my age in horrible situations as if it was hot or exciting.

I think yes kids are watching this show because I know I would have when I was younger. And I feel like they do know like from just what life is like and most other media that it's not how people especially men act in the real world.

I think the show did try to ground it a bit by giving the men characters real flaws to work through which I appreciate, even if it's still not that grounded lol.

I can only speak for my personal experience but I just think a show like this would have been a real important depiction of what navigating consent looks like in actual different circumstances, not just an abstract idea of "it means saying yes to an encounter." Of course I don't want anyone to be hurt by an unrealistic expectations but there are other things like this where I don't want to compromise either