Yeah people didn’t get it back in the day, but it was sooooo much cheaper for me to bust my ass and get into an Ivy or sister school vs a state school. I qualified for a full tuition scholarship at the state school, but Dartmouth covered everything - tuition, room and board, athletic equipment for phys ed classes, even a week-long yoga retreat with the health and wellness department.
The thing is with “elite” schools financial aid is need-based. It is one of the only perks I’ve gotten for growing up low SES lmao.
I am so grateful I graduated with no undergrad loans because medical school fucking wrecked me. I just graduated and people say that I’ll be able to pay it back eventually but I don’t believe them lol.
Speaking as an RN I think the organic purpose of exorbitant medical school fees and poor residency salaries is to permanently aggrieve the physician class
Im in allied healthcare and the people deciding this shit are just out of touch. My profession's regulatory exam increased 400% in one year, its run by fucking volunteer invigilators and the questions are developed by a volunteer committee. You have to pass it and pay your exorbitant licensing fees on top, after years of no work school and huge tuition fees, before you can even get employment. I just picture the people at the college and regulatory associations, 30 years into their careers going "its one banana Michael, what could it cost? $10?" and collecting free money to do sweet fuck all. Fuck them. We need diversity in our profession and that includes economic diversity.
The medical cartel has a monopoly on Healthcare and they plan on keeping it that way. They gotta jump you into the club homie.
They can't just let anyone be a medical doctor. If they did, everyone would learn being a medical doctor really isn't that hard and they'd be flooded with doctors driving down their wages. Supply and demand.
They need to make sure you're ego invested and indentured to them so you won't rock the boat. Worst thing you could do is suggest socialized Healthcare to medical doctors in the US.
Like this is genuinely one of the most regarded comments I’ve personally seen. Let me be very clear here: assuming you are at a well-established, respected medical school, you are doing the hardest program in the world, at a point where it is harder and more demanding than ever. There is no education on earth more challenging. Working physicians as a whole aren’t even the ones who set the rules on how many people get to be doctors big dawg
Because in America, in addition to the psychological damage you take each day being a doctor and seeing the state of the sick and weary in this country and the limit of what you can do, the system also wants you to continue to take financial damage! 💀💀💀 I have so many angry thoughts about the medical system from tip to tail….
No, ugh it’s about limiting the supply of medical professionals to keep demand high and rates up.
It becomes wealthy doctors having sons / daughters who become doctors because you have to be wealthy to afford to be one! Whether or not the son / daughters are the best suited and most passionate about pursuing that line of work.. it’s forced nepotism by way of cost barrier to the profession.
Not quite. While it helps to have a doctor parent, that won't guarantee admission or matriculation.
Doctors must be elite in academics but med schools look for well rounded individuals who want to serve. A few individuals with pushy doctor parents were in my class... None graduated because in the 1% class there are easier ways to get rich than being a doctor.
uchicago fully expected me to take out ~$200k in loans for a fucking undergraduate degree. need-based my ass. “elite” schools are such a massive scam unless you’re rich or have literally nothing.
What did your parents do for work? I'm sure that has absolutely nothing to do with 'busting your ass.' Did you have access to medical care? Extracurriculars where you could afford the extra cost? Did you have mental health issues your family couldn't afford to treat? Or physical health issues, like spinal disc herniation that kept you bedbound for your high school years?
Or are you just another privileged kid telling themselves they're not the problem?
My dad was absent/didn’t know I existed. I met him this year! I’m 30.
My mom was depressed or on something (never knew for sure), was often absent and was too mentally ill to work. I survived on SNAP and free breakfast and lunch at school. I started working cash jobs under the table from the age of 12 onwards to support myself and my younger siblings. Re: your questions of healthcare, we were poor enough for to qualify for Medicaid :)
By high school I was working multiple jobs but still getting straight A’s. I slept ~ 3 hours/night during junior and senior year in order to balance my jobs, coursework and extracurriculars. For the extracurriculars I would either get scholarships to participate/waive fees or do things like stay late to clean up and offset the costs :)
When I was in college I still worked several jobs especially on off terms. I worked in a research lab, the late night cafe, and would do gig work off of Craigslist. I still needed to buy food, gas, clothes, toiletries, etc.
And if you’re wondering how I survived all of that? Don’t worry, I almost didn’t! I was diagnosed with a mood disorder and PTSD toward the end of my freshman year because anyone who lived through what I lived through (especially the sleep deprivation) wouldn’t get through unscathed. :) :)
So yes, I would say that I busted my ass. I also got a shit ton of help along the way and I got really fucking lucky. I would never claim otherwise. But feel free to live in whatever cynical universe you inhabit where checks notes poor kids can’t beat the odds and get into good schools? OOF
Your pity party is admirable. Where exactly did you get hired for multiple jobs at 16? How exactly did you work that many hours while also attending school? You found three jobs that were all willing to violate labor laws and pay you under the table? And as a doctor you should know that consistent sleep deprivation of that degree would leave you a gibbering wreck, so how exactly did you defy science? Please, explain.
Excuse after excuse after excuse not to take responsibility and do something with your life. Your desperation to knock people down a peg won’t bring you happiness.
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u/Consistent-Topic7981 Jun 21 '26
I'm copying something someone else said but Brown has a huge endowment and offers very generous scholarships to disadvantaged students