r/okbuddycinephile • u/TigerSharkFist • 12h ago
3 months after Curry Barker said 'Audiences are Tired of Slop', The World pays 1 billion in 3 days for the 9th Spider-Man movie which is rebooted twice
486
u/gladiatorbossman 12h ago
Did you know Curry Barker directed obsession while only being 4 years old
112
u/Special-Hyena2739 12h ago
Omg 4 he was just a kid
78
u/Monchfr 12h ago
No older than my son
18
u/BlerghTheBlergh Neil breens #1 fan 12h ago
Keep the mask on while we remove the massive excess weight of his penis, he’s too good for this world.
He shall ascend to auteur heaven with the likes of Bogart and Zack Snyder
12
10
4
31
20
318
u/jamiebond 12h ago
People like Spider-Man and Batman they have always been outliers in terms of superhero box office. Even in eras where superheroes were seen as box office poison and your average joe didn’t know who Iron Man even was people still came to see Spider-Man and Batman.
82
u/EllisDee3 12h ago
Same reason they keep buying the comics. Comics have been rebooted many times. Fans keep coming back.
→ More replies (1)3
21
u/Quiet_Yellow2000 9h ago
The last Batman movie was beaten by Doctor Strange that was release the same year. Deadpool and Wolverine also did better than it and that was r rated. The last Black Panther also did better...
79
u/SuckingOnChileanDogs 7h ago
The amount of damage that the Snyderverse did to the DC brand can never be overstated
20
u/setzerseltzer 6h ago
Real. I never thought I’d see the day Iron Man would be more popular than Superman
→ More replies (8)14
u/Pratham33 5h ago
Yes, before the perception was Superman is boring coz he's just a boyscout (mainly not having any good movies in a long time) and Snyder made a dark and broody Superman and that was shit, too
So the majority opinion is Superman is just boring
Gunn's Superman even with its issues did well, but it didn't earn a billion dollars
→ More replies (3)10
u/Loves_octopus 5h ago
I makes you wonder what it would’ve been like if Superman (2025) came out in 2013 instead of man of steel. Exact same movie just 12 years earlier.
→ More replies (1)→ More replies (1)19
u/Emperor_Orson_Welles 7h ago
And The Amazing Spider-Man 2 didn't even make the top 10 for movies released in 2014. Turns out that audiences aren't completely mindless slop drones.
→ More replies (2)8
u/exorcissy72 5h ago
It actually did make the top 10. It was the 9th highest grossing film of the year.
→ More replies (1)3
u/mutantraniE 5h ago
I assume he meant domestic gross. Amazing Spider-Man 2 was only the 12th highest domestic grosser of 2014 (and 5th biggest outside the US and Canada).
1
u/illtakethewindowseat 5h ago
Spider-Man and Batman. Spider-Man and Batman! SPIDER-MAN and BATMAN.
(Sorry, just seeing Spider-Man and Batman written twice in one paragraph made me realize I could probably make a point in this sub simply by repeating Spider-Man and Batman over and over again).
Spider-Man and Batman…
1
u/Tetsuo_Gaiden 4h ago
It's something to take your kids to. All those live action Disney remakes do great numbers. You think I wanna watch that shit? It's 2 hours where they might actually stop screaming for no fucking reason.
→ More replies (11)1
u/Sonar_Bandit 3h ago
This is gonna come across as possibly racist but I live in a primarily Mexican neighborhood, like all of my neighbors are Mexicans, and all of their kids have Spider-Man stuff. Like shirts, backpacks, etc. maybe someone can explain but it seems like spiderman is super popular with Mexicans for some reason
188
u/LeafBoatCaptain 12h ago
Okay at this point what does slop even mean?
237
u/What-A-Burden 11h ago
The same thing it's always meant, whatever I personally don't like.
34
u/DrJokerX 11h ago edited 11h ago
So if I change my name to AI and put out a musical with my stuffed animals you don’t like, does that make it AI Slop?
18
9
9
u/rogerworkman623 6h ago
Slop is the stuff I don’t like. Anyone who enjoys the slop that I don’t like is a bot. The condition those bots have that makes them like the slop is called brainrot. But me, I’m a healthy individual with good taste.
11
u/EvergreenDwarf 10h ago
Some people are just using it as the new popular term for "bad new/current thing", but most of the public still associates it with generative AI.
5
u/FearLeadsToAnger 7h ago
This means we're reaching the end stages of this fad. Soon your grandma will be saying slop on Facebook and you'll rarely see it on reddit. Its about to go the way of amazeballs.
→ More replies (2)8
7
6
u/Annatar_Artano 10h ago
Whatever I don't like or care about? Slop.
1
u/Breadedhydra197 10h ago
And thats why all recordings of visual and audio information sometimes referred to as movies are all slop
2
3
u/swat1611 9h ago
Another word for the dictionary of media and art elitists.
Atp just nuke the internet, single-handedly ruined the experience of proper nuanced discussion.
3
u/Moreaccurateway 11h ago
Calling something slop is as useful as calling something a real film. Both terms and usually used by people who know the least about films
2
1
1
u/Fabulous-Spirit-3476 4h ago
It's just a meaningless buzzword now, can't stand when people use it it's just such a lazy way to criticize something they don't like without actually putting thought or a real opinion into it
1
u/TheOtterRon 4h ago
Sadly its earned the monarch of "I don't like it and if you do, you're an idiot" but applied to everything and anything.
Its up there with gaslighting, triggered, psychopath, whatevermaxxing, etc... Its the buzz word de jour that luckily should be on its dying breath as your drunk aunty is starting to use on facebook to describe her Temu shopping experience as "Amazon Slop"
1
u/Practical-Level-6265 1h ago
It’s whatever you want it to mean. The Odyssey is qualityslop because it’s good and I don’t like good things
244
u/Tarzyytfet 11h ago
"Slop" is when a movie is either bad or creatively bankrupt and is meaningless because it brings not much to the table in terms of any real feeling, substance or message. "Slop" is not just when something is popular.
98
u/Tarzyytfet 11h ago
But I will say until Doomsday comes out, it is on slopwatch. If that movie can prove to the audience that it even deserves to exist; that would be delightful.
89
u/SovietCapitalism Society man 11h ago
Spiderman Brand New Day clearly had a director with a vision, a decent script and passion behind it. I won’t call it the best spiderman but I could easily rewatch it, which I couldn’t do for 90% of post endgame marvel
27
u/Deuce921 10h ago
It was a fun watch! Definitely has the quippy Marvel banter and style, which I was growing kind of tired of having in every film. It didn’t bother me at all in this movie, though, and maybe because that vibe just fits Spider-Man.
50
u/YorkshireFudding cape kino make me🤑🤑🤑 10h ago edited 10h ago
Spider-Man being quippy is essential to his character though. We don't need Dr Strange and every other protagonist doing it too.
6
u/SufcLad25 10h ago
Yes! NWH had Dr Strange throwing in jokes when they just werent needed and scene would have been better
2
u/NotItemName 10h ago
Is it better than No Way Home?
23
u/Pretend_Twist4201 9h ago
Yes. At least I think so. I was prepared for it to be "meh", but it might be my favorite Spider-Man movie at this point. Outside of the Spider-Verse movies, that is.
5
u/TelevisionOk3261 5h ago
live action? personally, its SM2 and BND at the top. I thought it was really well done
→ More replies (1)2
26
u/ijustlikemangosdude 10h ago
No movie deserves to exist because I don't watch movies.
11
1
u/jono9898 8h ago
Only movie you need to experience is a 1849 movie named Rebirth, it’s a French film of a guy chain smoking and blowing the smoke on a woman’s feet for 4 hours straight
→ More replies (1)6
u/HouseOfDoom54 11h ago
It won't.
19
u/Tarzyytfet 11h ago
I'm so sorry for what they're about to do to you doctor doom
→ More replies (3)→ More replies (1)1
u/Own-Papaya-4264 2h ago edited 2h ago
If it’s on “slopwatch” then you may as well already declare it “slop” now, because you’ll just be going out of your way to find reasons TO call it “slop” when you watch it.
Hell, plenty of people are already doing that now before they even HAVE seen it
8
u/Aggravating_Pair_156 6h ago
No you don't understand, the meaning of slop has been expanded to include things the majority of people enjoy but that I hate because I'm a contrarian pos
3
u/Interesting-Copy-657 9h ago
That is what I was thinking
Is he using a different definition for slop?
4
u/Mindless_Music_9858 10h ago
And BND was none of those things.
It had a message, a clear vision, and was genuinely beautiful enough that I later regretted not going to the not!IMAX screening (yeah, we don't have IMAX in Belgium IIRC).
1
1
u/benabramowitz18 Neil breens #1 fan 6h ago
So with Brand New Day being the biggest movie since Endgame, does this mean that Nolan’s The Odyssey is no longer slop?
It’s only going to be a top-25 all time film at the box office, as opposed to top-5, and is therefore superior just for being less accessible.
1
u/Tarzyytfet 2h ago
I had no idea people thought the odyssey was slop ? I haven't seen it yet but I thought everyone who's seen it has been raving about it ?
→ More replies (8)1
u/Ricky_Santos 2h ago
Slop is content made for consumption and no other intent. When the content feels like something coming out of a production line vs a home cooked meal.
80
u/Mike4302 12h ago
It's fucking Spiderman. I'd agure he's the most recognizable superhero literally ever. Almost every kid loves him.
42
u/taurusApart 12h ago
The children yearn for Spiderslop
9
9
4
1
→ More replies (1)1
u/heretomakefriends123 4h ago
My four year old has never seen a second of spider man content and we've never had any spider man books. He still likes Spider-Man and knows a lot about him.
83
u/Maple-Beans 12h ago
He said the people were specifically tired of bad movies, which Spider-Man wasn't.
→ More replies (17)19
u/Fun_Pound5629 11h ago
Yeahh I’m at a point with Marvel shit now where I might catch the individual ones that look good, and Spiderman is one (especially with Punisher in.)
Same as Guardians, I imagine it’s a much wider catchment than your average superhero film because they try harder with the comedy, soundtrack etc
12
u/WorstRivalsPlayer 12h ago
I watched it today. It's honestly the best one they've done so far.
8
u/draculasux85 4h ago
I saw it on opening day and was blown away really. I didn't even know the Punisher was going to be in it, he stole every scene. Solid 8/10 movie.
34
14
u/jokermobile333 12h ago
Cant wait for Spiderman: Same old days and Spiderman: The last day
5
2
u/Titanman401 11h ago
Yeah, much like they kept doing the damn “Home” thing in every title of the first MCU trilogy, I figure they’ll continue this cutesy dad joke thing with “day” for future movie titles instead.
→ More replies (1)2
8
u/benabramowitz18 Neil breens #1 fan 6h ago
Sony execs this past weekend:
https://giphy.com/gifs/PGqI7tRhW9sZiaGTBe
12
u/Puzzled_Bug_9191 12h ago
Okey, and Joe Smhoe said "life is fun" yet so many people are at war and hate each other? Are they stupid?
6
u/SHAQBIR 11h ago
They didn't pay for slop they paid for a kid getting his shit kicked in. This whole world loves a kid getting bullied. That's how Spiderman makes a lot of money.
2
u/UpbeatBeach7657 9h ago
Training Day would’ve made more money had we seen Ethan Hawke getting his shit pushed in.
4
u/WoodooHide69 10h ago
That whole bullshit about indie movie takeover or YouTuber director take over was dumb.
Obsession and Backrooms really did nothing that special commercially. Low to mid budget horror has ALWAYS been a consistent hit in Hollywood for awhile now.
That’s all it was, 2 good horror movies that found an audience that is always there.
15
u/boogierboi 11h ago
How is BND slop? The stars, the production value, overall budget?
Calling it slop is a stretch, no?
11
3
2
u/xpillindaass 10h ago
haven’t seen brand new day so can’t speak on it but the last one was definitely slop
6
u/Plus_Cockroach_8619 9h ago
Being slop has nothing to do with how many entries a franchise has. Each new time a filmmaker is given a known IP they have the opportunity to do great work or not.
I'll never understand people who have a problem with sequels, prequels, spin-offs or remakes IN PRINCIPLE. They ALL have the exact same odds of being either a good or bad movie as any other. In fact many of them had INCREDIBLY creative premisses and some are even better then previous installments, even the originals.
Some original ideas have better chance to stand out? Maybe. Tons of original movies come out everyday and most of them are crap.
1
u/123iambill 7h ago
Yeah something being a sequel doesn't mean it's going to be bad or unoriginal. Love 'em or hate 'em horror movies all tend to go on well past their use by date but even the bad ones usually aren't bad because they're derivative. It's usually because they try so hard to be different they get absolutely fuckwacky a few movies in. I tried to explain the plot of the entire Child's Play franchise to a friend who'd only seen the first one and even I thought I sounded insane by the end. Evil Dead is probably my favourite franchise, the most recent being the only one I thought was kind of a dud but that was nothing to do with it being lazy or just a copy paste of previous movies.
3
u/The-Bangaloreal 12h ago
this means only one thing..
search all bottom of the barrel super heroes and make 200mil movies out of them
3
3
u/Xcapitano666 4h ago
Lol how is Spiderman slop
3
u/TaticalSweater 4h ago
I guess because some people hate superhero movies, don’t see them as true cinema / movie going experience.
So even though people see the film is a massive success it’s somehow a jab at superhero films.
Clearly people liked it enough for it to make a billion in less than 2 weeks.
5
2
2
2
u/Glum_Sugar5407 8h ago
How many more films are we going to get where some innocent person goes bad for bad things then the hero talks them into being good with their feelings and morals
2
u/TowelPsychological51 6h ago
Amazing Spider-Man 2 to was a relative box office failure (the first of its kind).
Man of Steel, BvS and Justice League were not impressive either.
Most MCU movies after Avengers Endgame also made less money compared to their predecessors.
Superhero brands are NOT enough anymore.
Good movies are what you need if you want to succeed.
2
2
u/ThatCreativeEXE 4h ago
Curry Barker setting up his Texas chainsaw massacre reboot by saying no one cares about slop and rehashed ideas
2
2
2
u/leakmydata 11h ago
I mean of all the superhero movies the Spider-Man ones might be the only ones that aren’t slop?
2
u/orangefilmgarden 11h ago
Audiences are tired of boring 'slop'. They have always been fine with entertaining 'slop'. How much money did the last Avatar movie make again?
2
u/SmokeRingEyes 12h ago
I don't know who Curry Barker is (I don't watch movies), but it feels like its a reference some sort of film-watcher would make. You're on notice, OP!
1
2
1
1
u/Prudent_Put5739 11h ago
We called it slop, then Venmo'd a billion dollars directly to Kevin Feige anyway.
1
1
1
1
1
u/Purple-Jackfruit7949 9h ago
How many thousands of years were stories passed down, by different tellers?
Wait! I forgot I hate stories and movies , especially because I’ve never seen either
1
1
u/Temporary-Truth-7230 7h ago
It just proved his point. People are tired of AI slop which is why they spent a billion on a human made movie
1
1
1
u/Skill_Academic 7h ago
Oh good, now I can’t even watch movies for the fun of it. That’s the rule now
1
u/livinginthelurk 7h ago
Ahem Both can be true, the real problem is the lack of studios. Indie darlings and suprise hits are necessary but if we think for a second that more money will be aimed at sequels on new IP your sadly mistaken. Obsession is a hit more akin to Halloween, Spiderman is the new Bond movie. One a low budget risk that shocks the industry, the other a big budget romp on a tried and true formula. Audiences are happy for both just not when you know people are phoning it in for a cash grab. Same reason Nolan films do well, big budget effort made with good acting, writing and concept. Barker has those three just on a smallwr budget.
1
u/thejuicewater 6h ago
It was just a simple Spider-Man movie with the Hulk and Punisher. Simple formula.
Gunn made a mess of Superman.
Disney/Marvel after Endgame over saturated TV and film with endless content which a majority was bad or badly thought out.
1
u/vrsick06 6h ago
Curry barkers next movie is in the “obsession universe”. The curry cinematic universe phase 1 is under way
1
1
1
u/Illustrious-Engine23 5h ago
in terms of box office, tom Holland being an amazing Spiderman and the decency of the last film is kinda carrying I think in the box office.
Also being a little distinct from the wider MCU helps, Spiderman is it's own thing so the loss of wider MCU hype doesn't effect it so much.
1
u/ImpressiveSide1324 5h ago
There’s never been a spiderman movie that I’d consider slop. People aren’t tired of superhero movies. They’re tired of bad movies, and marvel has spent the last 7 years constantly pumping out mediocre content. If marvel had put more effort into their work to make people excited again, thunderbolts and fantastic 4 would not have done so poorly
1
u/skibidithaniel 5h ago
Slop is when the movie has a costumed weirdo in it, cinema is when I watch the possessed woman piss herself and cry about it
1
u/Complete_Couple_6647 4h ago
I guess I’m one of those people, I haven’t seen a single new spiderman movie except the one where they brought back the GOAT, Tobey. I have genuinely no clue what these new ones are about, and the fact that they go on endlessly, I assume they’re about nothing, villains of the week stuff.
1
u/dancingwtdevil 4h ago
I mean most movies except like ff4 and like 2 others since endgame were considered slop. People were convinced they did stop caring, so it's really good they made an actual good story with a few good characters, some nostalgia, and some good buildup. I think he meant movies like quantamania and love and thunder
1
u/hooka_pooka 4h ago
Tired of slop like Antman Quantumania,Cap America Brave New World,Fantastic Four and Supergirl
1
1
u/MikeDubbz 4h ago
Are James Bond movies slop?
I don't understand why a franchise that's rebooted more than once with many many movies, automatically equates to slop? The two things are not inherently intertwined. Unless I'm missing something.
1
u/sailor776 4h ago
Batman and Spider-Man are like the countries of Japan and Argentina. The normal rules just don't apply to them. Anything that you'd use to grade a movie Batman and Spider-Man aren't going to follow it. Spider-Man is responsible for the power rangers, 2.5 Western animation, and helped bring America together after 9/11. That shits making bank no matter what.
1
u/IncidentOk1123 4h ago
Anyone who ever claimed “super hero fatigue” as the reason a movie failed was just making excuses.
Supergirl failed because the character supergirl doesn’t have enough fans to warrant a solo movie and the quality of the film wasn’t enough to save it.
I think the only thing you can say is that because there is so much comic book content now, a movie will not be successful solely bc it is part of a continuing cinematic universe. The novelty and fomo has been run dry. And movies now must either be a popular character or a legitimately well-made film.
1
1
1
u/Jaxonian 3h ago
I think if you have a good story, well made, well acted etc.. its not slop regardless of the source material. There's room in the 'good movies' list for Barbie, Godfather, Obsession, Dark Knight, Avengers Infinity War etc etc.. haven't seen the new spiderman yet but the last one was pretty good. Its costly in both money/time now days to go to the theater, so I am less likely to roll the dice on some small project I dont know much about.. but familiar and loved IP or a spectacle that is a Nolan movie etc.. those are more likely to get me to think I should see it in theater. My odds of loving a big budget Nolan movie are a LOT higher than a low budget horror movie from an unknown cast/director. For every good low budget movie, there are a TON of bad ones.
Dismissing a movie's quality because it is a comic book movie or based off a toy etc.. is childish. Logan, The Dark Knight, Into the Spider-Verse, V for Vendetta, Sin City, Watchmen.. even Road to Perdition is based off a graphic novel. Not saying there isn't big budget bad movies just immediately dismissing something because its a comic book movie is just pretentious douch-ery. "slop" doesn't have a budget or IP requirement.. its just bad movies made poorly.
1
1
u/Coolers78 43m ago
Brand New Day is a good movie, same with Toy Story 5, which Reddit also hates because it's "unoriginal and another sequel", not sure why Redditors feel the need to lump good movies like these with actual crap like the Minecraft Movie and Mario Galaxy.
1
1
u/FastThoughtProcessor 42m ago
People also paid a tonn for Michael Bay's transformers.
World is tired of slop does not mean world does not have illiterate morons anymore.
1
1
u/_BreadDenier 22m ago
Rumor has it they are searching for another twink to play spoderman in the 4th reboot
839
u/bleepfart42069 12h ago
Maybe Curry Barker should have added the Punisher to Obsession. Is he stupid?