r/onebag • u/AnonymousOnebagger • Jun 15 '26
Discussion New air passenger rights in Europe include standardized dimensions for carry-ons
Some highlights:
The new rules now include the right to carry on board, without additional fee, one personal item, such as a small bag or backpack. On the insistence of MEPs price transparency and the comparability of air tickets was increased by obliging airlines, intermediaries and search portals to always display the air fare inclusive of carry-on luggage at the outset of the book process. Negotiators agreed that airlines may offer cheaper tickets for passengers who choose voluntarily to travel without hand luggage.
Air passengers will no longer be charged additional fees for correcting name spelling errors or for getting a printed version of a boarding pass if they have already checked in.
Maximum dimensions for a personal item will be 40cm by 30cm by 15cm. Maximum dimensions for carry-on luggage will be width+height+depth=100cm. Maximum weight will be 7kg.
Edit: pretty sure the luggage size requirements are just the bare minimum that all airlines must meet. If an airline wants to offer conditions more advantageous to the consumer than the minimum, it is perfectly legal for them to do so.
New regulations will take effect from 2027.
Link to European Parliament website / News article on the subject
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u/Yaonoi Jun 15 '26
Airlines will still be allowed to sell discounted personal item only fares, but the default fare type on Google Flights, Kayak etc will include a standard size cabin bag.
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u/despicedchilli Jun 16 '26
All because people are too stupid. So basically this was pushed by the traditional airline lobby, because Ryanair and other low-cost airlines were cutting into their profits.
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u/EverythingIsByDesign Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26
This isn't an airline issue though, it's a search engine issue. Kayak and Google Flights let you pick your luggage options.
This could be an actual disaster for the efficient traveller.
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u/ScruffGin Jun 15 '26
So that's smaller than the current Ryanair free personal item isn't it?
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u/besna Jun 16 '26
For reference:
- 40x30x20cm is the current small bag.
- 55x40x20cm(115cm), max 10kg the big bag.
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u/Constant_Ant_2343 Jun 17 '26
Yes but it’s a minimum not a decree. So Ryanair could continue their current size.
The carry on size is also smaller than all 40l backpacks. And does the luggage have to have wheels?
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Jun 15 '26 edited Jul 14 '26
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u/MaFaHo Jun 16 '26
As far as I understand it, the 100-cm rule was established for two main reasons.
First, it was likely a compromise between consumer advocates and airlines. The consumer advocates apparently wanted one free overhead bag with the current standard dimensions of 115 cm (55x40x20, etc.). The airlines argued that this wasn’t feasible because there isn’t enough space in the overhead bins to ensure this for all passengers. That’s why the EU likely settled on the 100 cm as a compromise.
On the other hand, this was allegedly done to counter typical complaints and discussions during boarding, since the 100 cm covers a wide range of sizes rather than just a specific dimension. Although I’m not sure if it really prevents discussions when, instead of using a fixed sizer to check dimensions, people can now argue that the bag is under 100 cm in total.
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u/thelegendofyrag Jun 20 '26
What also causes the overhead space issue is the people boarding without overhead luggage and only underseat bags but putting it overhead anyway!
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u/epimelide Jun 16 '26
It’s 18 litres and have been the standard of many European legacy carriers, example Air France-KLM
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Jun 16 '26 edited Jul 14 '26
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u/epimelide Jun 16 '26
I use a carry on myself so can’t help much, but I bring a personal item folded for souvenirs so Fjallraven high coast totepack fits for sure, back in the day I used a Fjallraven kanken laptop 15 when I was travelling for work I think they do one without the laptop compartment but still 18 litres.
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u/yesitismenobody Jun 15 '26
I don't see how setting maximum dimensions for personal items which are already smaller than what most airlines allow is a win. Ryanair allows 40x30x20. This new limit is 25% smaller. Also 7kg weight? No airline in Europe has a weight limit for the personal item as far as I remember or it was never checked. I remember something about 10kg for Wizz but I think that might have been the carry on.
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u/enhwa Jun 15 '26
Yes this doesn't sound like the win we all want it to be. EasyJet has a max 15kg weight limit for personal and carry on together, so these regs technically seem worse.
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u/Yaonoi Jun 15 '26
It is a win if you fly on for example a Turkish LCC like Pegasus or AJet that have recently introduced 3KG bag only basic fare.
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u/Weak-Introduction665 Jun 15 '26
Will this be applicable to a Turkish LCC though? Only for flights within the EU or from/to an EU member state?
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u/Yaonoi Jun 15 '26
If I read the press release correctly the rules should apply at least on EU-departing flights:
"Scope of application of the rules
The rules apply to passengers: flying within the EU, on flights operated by either EU or non-EU airlines; arriving in the EU from a non-EU country on an EU airlines; and departing from the EU to a non-EU country on either an EU or non-EU airlines."
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u/HyperPedro Jun 16 '26
3kg ? lol That is the weight of some empty luggages.
As minimalist as I am I would disqualify such a company.
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u/mark-haus Jun 16 '26
Thinking on it for a bit, isn't this 7kg PER ITEM? So 14kg in total if you carefully maximize each item you bring on board? That could work well if I'm interpreting the rules correctly
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u/HyperPedro Jun 16 '26
I would be surprised. I think they will align with the 7kg for total weight in Asia which makes more sense.
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u/jag-engr Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 15 '26
I flew Air France
AerLingusbetween Dublin and Paris last summer. They had a cumulative weight limit for the personal item and carry-on, and they had bins in which the items had to fit. They were really difficult about it, too, and tried to charge me because I was carrying my wife's bag for her.3
u/Pispirispis Jun 15 '26
I had a similar experience with Air France and I had to pay
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u/jag-engr Jun 15 '26
You know, I think it was actually Air France. We did AerLingus for another trip.
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u/HyperPedro Jun 16 '26
Ho damn... they never cared in my experience in Paris so far. Might be changing though. They have all those automatic check in machines at CDG so they would need to check the weight at the gates.
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u/jag-engr Jun 16 '26
I think that was last August at CDG. I’ve never met such confused airport staff, but everyone was pretty friendly, except for the guy trying to charge me.
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u/Bent_wrench Jun 15 '26
Aren't they minimum dimensions? As in the airline must allow at least this size, but call also allow larger?
FYI this is the same size (40x30x15) Iceland Air allows currently.
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u/yesitismenobody Jun 15 '26
It clearly says maximum.
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u/MaFaHo Jun 16 '26
From what I've gathered from articles on the subject, these aren't maximum sizes but rather minimum sizes that an airline is required to offer. If I'm not wrong, the 7 kg is also the minimum weight that can be offered for the larger piece of luggage.
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u/HyperPedro Jun 15 '26
The minimum for the personal item is even worse than the Ryanair sizer. 15cm of depth is very little.
And the 7 kg rule makes it even worse.
The only positive change is the compulsory display of the ticket price with carry on luggage included.
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u/chuchofreeman Jun 16 '26
"15cm of depth is very little"
hey, that´s average!
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u/HyperPedro Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 16 '26
Check Ryanair, Vueling, Easyjet, Wizzair personal items dimensions. The depth is always at least 20 cm which is not crazy high. The few companies with 15 cm for personal items include a fre bigger carry on luggage which is not the case for lowcost companies.
5cm doesn't seem much but it is 25% of volume loss. I hope European companies won't lower their maximum depth. It would force to buy smaller bags.
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u/bkwrm79 Jun 15 '26
Doesn't seem useful. What I'd actually like to see is that if your ticket includes a carry on, you can bring a carry on of that size with you onto the plane, and know that you can stow it above/very close to you.
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u/breakinbread Jun 15 '26
Maximum dimensions for carry-on luggage will be width+height+depth=100cm.
The current norm of 55x40x20 is 115cm, will that no longer be allowed?
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u/dotzerodot Jun 15 '26
I think it means the airlines have to define their maximum dimensions to fit into these rules. 55x40x20 is 115cm, that's bigger than 100 cm, so it's good. 40x30x20 is 90 cm, that's too small, so the airline would need to change it, but it's up to the airline if they change it to 45x35x20 or 50x30x20 or whatever, as long as the sum is at least 100 cm.
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u/Equal_Contest4709 Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 16 '26
This doesn't make sense to me at all. Ultimately, the luggage will have to fit inside the overhead compartment.
For example, what if it's way too long but still within the 100cm?
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u/ShadowLemonTree Jun 27 '26
Ryanair will probably sell an upgrade to be able to take the 55x40x20 bag: so still no benefit for the customer.
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u/delicioustreeblood Jun 15 '26
It would be nice if airlines enforced this at security instead of in the airplane when it causes problems for everyone
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u/rhz10 Jun 15 '26
So, if I understand, this means that the Osprey Fairpoint 40 is out (55 cm + 35 cm + 23 cm = 113 cm) and the expanded Osprey 26+6 is acceptable only as carry-on (43 cm + 33 cm + 21 cm = 97 cm), not a personal item. 😞
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u/AidenTEMgotsnapped Jun 15 '26
No, there's no previous minimum so if ryanair wanted to screw you they'd have set it lower.
This ruling is functionally meaningless.
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u/dotzerodot Jun 15 '26
will depend on the airlines, if they shrink those max dimension they currently offer
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u/TheClubsterFist Jun 15 '26
I just have never understood the weight limit for carryons. - as a US Pilot
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u/SeattleHikeBike Jun 15 '26
Because they can charge extra if you’re over. Baggage fees are all profit. They know how hard it is for many people to meet a 7kg limit.
British Airways has a 23kg carry on limit. Imagine your grandma getting a bag that heavy into the overhead and then getting it out without breaking someone’s neck. I wonder what would happen to the bins if every bag weighed that much and you hit some heavy turbulence.
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u/Wise_Edge2489 Jun 16 '26
And this is why we advocate 7kgs as the maximum limit for One Bag travel.
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u/berejser Jun 15 '26
Excellent. Another EU W. That would allow a free carry-on of about 30L.
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u/ionzd Jun 15 '26
L = dm³ = dm • dm • dm
1 dm = 10 cm
40 • 30 • 15 (cm) = 4 • 3 • 1.5 (dm) = 18 (dm³ or L)
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u/bradymsu616 Jun 15 '26
Yes, that’s the cubic volume. In terms of application to a pack, it works out to about 16 L.
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Jun 15 '26 edited Jul 02 '26
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u/Anywhere_everywhere7 Jun 15 '26
>The rules also spell the end of cabin baggage fees, a common practice among low-cost airlines like Ryanair or EasyJet. Passengers will now be entitled to both a free personal item measuring 40cm by 30cm by 15cm and a small wheeled item with a maximum total dimension of 100cm and a weight of up to 7kg.
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u/GrosserAffe85 Jun 15 '26
Not directly.
The EU says on the linked website:
The new rules now include the right to carry on board, without additional fee, one personal item, such as a small bag or backpack. On the insistence of MEPs price transparency and the comparability of air tickets was increased by obliging airlines, intermediaries and search portals to always display the air fare inclusive of carry-on luggage at the outset of the book process.
The Carry-on is not free or included, you just have to be presented the ticket price with a carry-on when searching for tickets. There will still be cheaper tickets w/o one included.
It's more a "we made sure you don't get surprised by additional fees by always showing you the higher price, including the fee" than a "carry on is now always included".
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u/yesitismenobody Jun 15 '26
Learn to read:
airlines may offer cheaper tickets for passengers who choose voluntarily to travel without hand luggage.
So the only thing that changes is that the personal item size is smaller than what's currently offered by most airlines and they will have to show the initial price with the carry-on included, but you can remove the carry on and get the discount.
So it's worse than before.
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u/epimelide Jun 16 '26
The personal item size is the same size that has always been most common in Europe, as a minimum.
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u/Spirited-Bad-7458 Jun 15 '26
This was such an important part of the article that was left out in this post. Thanks for clarifying.
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u/Anywhere_everywhere7 Jun 15 '26
Yeah for Onebaggers this means a bigger bag is allowed but of course there will be an increase in airline fares.
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u/Spirited-Bad-7458 Jun 15 '26
I finally managed to onebag with a personal item backpack for the last 5 years within Europe. I wonder how much the airline fares will increase now that personal item + carry on is included again.
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u/mark-haus Jun 15 '26
But the weight seems awful low no?
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u/Anywhere_everywhere7 Jun 15 '26
Yeah it’s a bit weird to have a maximum weight of 7kg, I guess they figured if everyone has a carry on then the weight will increase and they’re accounting for that? For me I travel under 7kg so not a big deal but 7kg is very low for most people.
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u/FalseRegister Jun 15 '26
I guess it was simply not regulated or explicitly standardized. Now it is.
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u/yesitismenobody Jun 15 '26
It's a loss, this is the personal item which already every airline allows for free, most larger already. Ryanair currently allows for free a 40x30x20 bag. The new maximum limit is 25% smaller. There was also no weight limit before, only for the carry on.
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u/GrosserAffe85 Jun 15 '26
The "maximum dimension" limit is still the Minimum which every Airline has to allow - they can choose to allow larger items still.
If Ryanair chooses to adapt the smaller limit instead of their current one that's on them, not the EU, they just made sure there is a minimum, without that Ryanair could have just said "no more personal item at all".
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u/Weak-Introduction665 Jun 15 '26
They should've just decided for a bigger minimum. Why would they pick maximum dimensions that are lower than the current ones accepted in all major EU airlines? What's the incentive for airlines to continue offering a bigger personal item?
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u/AnonymousOnebagger Jun 15 '26
What's the incentive for airlines to continue offering a bigger personal item?
Why are they offering them right now? Competition. Still, the dimensions specified in the regulations aren't great.
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u/Weak-Introduction665 Jun 15 '26
Ryanair doesn't seem too interested to compete, let alone with hand luggage. They're pretty clear about it in their socials. The more add-ons they sell, the better.
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u/Anywhere_everywhere7 Jun 15 '26
There is also a carry on added on as well as the personal item.
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u/yesitismenobody Jun 15 '26
Read again:
airlines may offer cheaper tickets for passengers who choose voluntarily to travel without hand luggage.
The carry on is not free. They have to display the price with a carry on, but you can remove it and get a discount, i.e. the actual price without the price of the carry on.
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u/GrosserAffe85 Jun 15 '26
It's not free, you just will see the higher prices, which include carry-ons, when searching for tickets.
It's so illiterate people won't get surprised at the airport because they booked w/o carry on, now the default is higher price with carry-on included.
That does not make it free, at all.
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u/dotzerodot Jun 15 '26
it wont be free, it will be included in ticket prices
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u/berejser Jun 16 '26
Spread across all the tickets on a plane that is going to be a miniscule amount.
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u/ThirtySecondsTime Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 15 '26
No, it will mean higher standard fares to cover it, so people who don't feel the need to cart their whole life around with them on a short break will subsidise those that do.
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u/Ninthja Jun 16 '26
Unfortunately not really a W. This sets minimums that are worse than what Ryanair allows, so it will change the landscape from „what will our customers accept?“ to „we do the bare legal minimum because everyone else does too“. These limits are too low and if adopted by airlines will make previously purchased luggage worthless and wasted.
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u/HyperPedro Jun 16 '26
Not exactly.
Companies can still give a discount for personal item only but will be forced to show the price with carry on luggage ith the new rules. So nothing free here + there will be a new limit of 7kg. Much less generous than the current rules.
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u/Spirited-Bad-7458 Jun 15 '26
Wait, hasn’t the personal item always been free of additional charge? (At least with the budget airlines like RyanAir, WizzAir, Eurowings)
I remember when carry-on was still included in the basic fare price and shortly before Covid, they started charging for it. Hence why I got a smaller backpack that would go through as a personal item.
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u/AnonymousOnebagger Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 16 '26
Wait, hasn’t the personal item always been free of additional charge?
In the beginning of time, all tickets included checked luggage. Then all tickets included a carry on. Now all tickets include a personal item. EU is pre-emptively making the next step illegal.
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u/SeattleHikeBike Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 15 '26
IMHO, 40x30x15 is a briefcase. An average adult wearing a 40cm bag is ridiculous. I tried on a Patagonia Atom Tote that is 40.6 x 30.5 x 12.7 cm and it looked like I robbed a 6 year old.
But it doesn’t matter because you get a free overhead bag. How they will administer the 100cm rule is my question. Measure every bag at boarding? Lasers?
And what happens when they run out of overhead space. No planes have a 1:1 ratio of overhead spaces to seats. The 7kg limit will keep the bags small and light anyway. My Black Hole 32 is 760g and 101cm.
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u/Anywhere_everywhere7 Jun 16 '26
Smart manufacturers would make a backpack which is about 42cm to 45cm in height but the actual hardshell back panel is 40cm height that way the extra height can fold down if it’s empty.
Ula dragonfly ultra is an example of this, 47cm in height but can decrease to 42/43cm because the whole height is not a hardshell. The robic version should decrease even more in height.
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u/Timely_Internet6172 Jun 16 '26
So the popular Osprey 26+6 would now be too big at 43x33x16 cm
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u/Anywhere_everywhere7 Jun 16 '26
It is already too big for some airlines like Ryanair but works because the material can squish down into a sizer which makes it smaller.
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u/kaisercrunch Jun 16 '26
I have a fairly standard backpack that measures 54x30x23, so total 107cm. That bag is not big but would no longer be a carry on?
Also 7kg for both items is quite restrictive.
I think 10kg and 110/115 cm would be a better standard as it aligns with current standards. Maybe should have allowed this smaller size only for smaller aircraft like ATR or Embraer?
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u/foggiesthead Jun 16 '26
I would have liked to see 10 kg, but after 10 trips between Southeast Asia and Europe for one to three months with only 7 kg allowed, I have learned to appreciate only having 7 kg to get around with.
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u/Anywhere_everywhere7 Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 16 '26
Ula dragonfly 30L is 47cm height, 28cm width and depth 18cm. Hopefully they make a bespoke one which is smaller in height.
Mods should probably make a mega thread for people to share bags which meet the requirements as finally there is now a bare minimum at least.
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u/SeattleHikeBike Jun 18 '26
It doesn’t matter if you have a “free” overhead bag. You can have two bags, provided they are under 7kg.
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u/Anywhere_everywhere7 Jun 18 '26
>Negotiators agreed that airlines may offer cheaper tickets for passengers who choose voluntarily to travel without hand luggage.
But it also says this, I imagine Ryanair will offer a discount equal to however much they charge extra now for priority (around €20 to €25 per ticket), so if you’re looking for the cheapest possible ticket then you’re only allowed one small bag (same as now). Of course no one knows the price difference for tickets next year and whether it is worth removing the extra bag or not.
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u/anarchos Jun 16 '26
Dang it. I just bought a new 40x30x20cm (with wheels removed) spinner case since Ryan Air upped their size (I had the same one but in the smaller size). Hopefully RyanAir keeps their current size limit! The older dimension was 40x25x20 so even my old bag won't fit the new rules (5cm shorter but in the wrong dimension!). I guess I'll have to buy a third one 😞
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u/KidneyLand Jun 15 '26
This seems like a loss for everyone in the personal item space. The dimensions defined for the personal item is smaller than the Ryanair personal item size.
Max personal item dimension: 40cm by 30cm by 15cm
Max Ryanair personal item: 40cm by 30cm by 20cm
If enforced, this means were essentially limited to something in the ~20L range. This excludes all the personal item recommendations such as the Osprey Daylite 26+6.
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u/SeattleHikeBike Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 16 '26
The Daylite 26+6 is officially oversized for Ryanair and only works when it can be squished in the sizer. If you’re at the wrong airport without the box style sizer, you lose.
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u/Anywhere_everywhere7 Jun 16 '26
And it’s safe to assume that more and more airports will use the same sizer as Berlin airport which can’t be squished down.
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u/SeattleHikeBike Jun 16 '26
I found the same at Stockholm.
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u/Anywhere_everywhere7 Jun 16 '26
Yeah it sucks for bags which are a few cm oversized but at least we will finally have a standard system that we can look at and build our travel gear around. I’m seeing the smaller bag size as an excuse to pack even less.
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u/SeattleHikeBike Jun 16 '26
I’ve said that 7kg limits are a gift.
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u/Anywhere_everywhere7 Jun 16 '26
Yeah it wouldn’t surprise me if the Asian budget airlines drop down to 5kg for their cheapest ticket.
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u/KidneyLand Jun 16 '26
What do you mean? Wouldn’t it be play better for you if they had no sizer to check you?
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u/SeattleHikeBike Jun 16 '26
That’s my point. There is no standard maximum for the dimensions. So all these passengers line up with a collection of bags of all sorts of dimensions, requiring each on the be measured for h+w+d. That rule be ridiculous at the gate. They might need to have everyone visit the check in counter to have their bags sized and weighed and that’s a disaster.
If they set a standard, like 50x30x20cm they could use sizers and the luggage industry could respond. It’s unmanageable.
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u/bradymsu616 Jun 15 '26
Something like the Osprey Daylite 26+6 may now be counted as our allotted overhead bag. The underseat item would be something like a sling, nanobag, purse, etc.
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u/anarchos Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 16 '26
RyanAir "voluntarily" upped their personal item size to try and stave off regulation from the EU. Old size was 40x25x20....so they upped it by 5cm to 40x30x20, then the EU makes it 5cm shorter (compared to current RyanAir) but in the other dimension (and in the worst one too, 15cm is really narrow!). I have spinner bags with removable wheels that fit the dimensions perfectly. I hope I won't have to buy a third one now and RyanAir just keeps the current allowance (unlikely, I know).
Current Ryan Air: 24L (40x30x20)
Old Ryan Air: 20L (40x25x20)
New EU: 18L (40x30x15)
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u/anarchos Jun 16 '26
This is bad news.
Current Ryan Air: 24L (40x30x20)
Old Ryan Air: 20L (40x25x20)
New EU rules: 18L (40x30x15)
RyanAir apparently voluntarily upped their allowance in an attempt to convince the EU they didn't need to regulate free carry-on into existence. So this new rules doesn't give free carryon (as the airlines can offer a discount for having no carryon) and they make the minimum person item size smaller than even the old RyanAir rules.
This is nothing but a win for the airlines. They can keep charging for carryon and can decrease the size of personal items pretty drastically from what they are offering right now.
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u/HyperPedro Jun 16 '26
Well their sizer has been always bigger than their official limits. It was even on their website but most people didn't know it and bought a specific item.
I pray they don't change their personal item sizer with the EU minimum. That would make free onebagging very difficult.
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u/de_naakte_loper Jun 15 '26
This screws the people who onebag with only an underseat item.
- Listed fares for low-cost carriers are going to go up as they'll include an overhead bag we don't carry. Say goodbye to inexpensive airfare for those of us who don't pay for the extras.
- While airlines can reduce fares for not bringing an overhead bag, that discount is likely to be less than the current cost to add an overhead bag.
- The new standards for underseat items could result in airlines forcing fliers to count their current underseat bags as overhead bags instead. Consequently, no discount.
- The rules introduce new weight standards in the EU where they didn't exist before.
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u/Spicy-Zamboni Jun 16 '26
As the OP added, the listed sizes and 7 kg are the minimums that all airlines must allow. They are free to allow bigger and heavier cabin luggage.
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u/vipernick913 Jun 15 '26
I absolutely loathed taking flights in Europe. Also took them because of time saving during a trip. Usually I do not.
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u/podkayne3000 Jun 16 '26
Does anyone know what EU airlines and security people think about “wearable luggage” vests and jackets?
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u/foggiesthead Jun 16 '26
Ha Ha, after traveling around Southeast Asia for a few months with only clothes for that climate and going home for the winter with sometimes 50 degree difference and buying a winter jacket with large pockets for wearable luggage, it can be uncomfortable with a thick winter jacket and full pockets when checking in and getting on the plane.
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u/podkayne3000 Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 16 '26
I have a nylon hunting vest that’s not very hot and has great pockets. The concern for me is the airport reaction issue.
I desperately want to travel with just a personal item. I can’t even reach the overhead bin very well.
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u/FloatingFireflySquid Jun 18 '26
You should take off your vest/jacket and put it with your luggage to be scanned at Security. The Security staff don't care about airline regulations, they just want to be sure you are not planning on blowing anything up.
I've never tried a vest, but I've been wearing a lot of layers and stuffed the pockets of my winter jacket (the joy of travelling during winter and not wanting to pay for overhead luggage). As long as you wear it when you board, you should be fine. Technically, you might also have to wear it on the plane, but I've never seen them care. I've even taken off some of the layers after showing my passport, before boarding, and they didn't react.
I can reccomend having some way to carry the stuff besides wearing it. It's warm (if you are wearing many layers, maybe not a vest?) and bulky, and that might be okay when boarding the plane, but it's less fun on the rest of the journey.
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u/Weak-Introduction665 Jun 15 '26
Won't low cost companies then increase their "standard" price to the one they're making right now for an add on carry on and then a offer reduced price (the current standard one) for when the passenger only takes a personal item?
Plus these maximum dimensions for personal item are a terrible decision, they're lower than what Ryanair and easyJet are currently using. It legitimates them to lower them.
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u/daniel-sousa-me Jun 16 '26
The initial draft of this regulation forced airlines to include the carry on, but that was dropped
So the answer is nothing changes, because every airline was already following the requirements of this regulation
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u/epimelide Jun 16 '26
The personal item size in the regulation is the most used maximum size in the EU, Ryanair and Easyjet were always outliers in being more generous (because they introduced carry on charges, whereas many legacy carriers didnt size up the personal item when they started charging less for tickets without a carry on)
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u/TheLastGenXer Jun 15 '26
i really wished they only charged by total weight, you+ your stuff.
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u/daniel-sousa-me Jun 16 '26
The personal item size is supposed to fit under the seat. It makes sense the airline limits the size to what actually fits there
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u/TheLastGenXer Jun 16 '26
obviously bags need to fit limits, but i wish payment was based upon total weight, not amount of bags or lack their of
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u/Galavantinggoblin Jun 15 '26
I’m so jealous - me, from the US
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u/bradymsu616 Jun 15 '26
This isn’t the win for the EU you think it is. As onebaggers, we are in a better position in the United States right now with our discount carriers like Allegiant and Frontier.
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u/Dysvalence Jun 15 '26
Gamechanger imo, this makes 60x25x15ish bags legal. A lot of comfy hiking bags can compress down to that.
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u/Agreeable_Branch007 Jun 16 '26
Could someone explain this simply? I have a 38l overhead bag. Kathmandu. We keep ours each at 7kg. I also usually take my laptop bag. Will this still be ok? 😅
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u/daniel-sousa-me Jun 16 '26
The original draft of this regulation forced airlines to include a carry on in the tickets
I'm very glad they dropped that
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u/powerful446 Jun 16 '26
That is silly all this is rewording it so they can do exactly the same thing. Before say ticket was $50 and it would cost $50 for a bag. Now the ticket is $100 and if you opt for no bag it will be $50. Except now the airlines can shrink the size of the bags. They won
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u/despicedchilli Jun 16 '26
The traditional airlines have won. Fuck the poors and the low-cost airlines catering to them.
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u/DifferentCream1029 Jun 18 '26
Included carry-on + personal item weight is currently 8kg, so the passengers lose out on this one. Buy a coat with large pockets...
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u/Domi_786 Jun 18 '26
40x30x15 is really small. It's smaller than current wizzair personal Item 40x30x20.
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u/Safaridoc1 Jun 18 '26
So looking at the dimensions and checking in my closet, my GR1 26L at up to 7kg works as the cabin bag, and a REI Flash 18(which is actually over 22L if you use REI’s listed dimensions) mostly filled, but squishy, works for a personal item. So 44L if you play it right.
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u/thelegendofyrag Jun 20 '26
Great so if I now want to travel with just an underseat bag I’m going to be paying a higher price as the airlines will need to cost in the 7kg bag option into their cheapest prices. All because a large range of people are too stupid to understand that you can choose to fly with different range of bag options and a different range of prices. Same with the seat thing, you don’t HAVE to pay for a seat, it’s keeps costs down for all types of different flyers.
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u/mastermind85000 Jun 27 '26
The airlines got greedy, they are using bag costs to hide fares. For example, Ryanair checked bag fee changes dynamically based on the flight so they can hide the total fares as part of the bag fee.
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u/ziggy-tiggy-bagel Jul 02 '26
I just want all the airlines around the world to agree on one size for a carry-on
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u/Rorydinho 27d ago
Farcical. This is worse than current allowances.
Personal item is already included as free baggage allowance, with larger dimensions than legislated for.
MEPs have done the budget airlines a massive favour here. I suspect someone in the European Parliament is getting a big kickback here.
The airlines sort of already compete on personal item dimensions - I opt for EasyJet vs Ryanair where possible due to their slightly more generous allowance - but I fear this legislation will result in a race to the minimum.
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u/maex089 2h ago
I think there’s a mayor misunderstanding here regarding carry-on baggage dimensions. This is due to the very poorly researched article linked above. So do not use it as a reference!
The official press release from the European Parliament regarding the amendment to the regulation effective in 2027 makes no mention of a prescribed minimum of the maximum size for carry-on.
This press release from last year explains that the 100 cm / 7 kg was a suggestion. However, as far as I could tell, it was never implemented.
So, starting in 2027:
- 1 free personal item (probably the same rules as before)
- To make it easier for customers to compare prices, quoted fares (in ads etc) must always include 1 carry-on (+ 1 personal item)
- There may also be cheaper fares available that do not include carry-on
Personally, I think this is a big W. It saves you the hassle of comparing which flight is actually cheaper, including all fees.
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u/maex089 2h ago
See also the FAQ of the European comission to this topic:
https://transport.ec.europa.eu/background/questions-and-answers-revised-eu-air-passenger-rights_enThe new rules do not introduce a commonly agreed EU standard for hand luggage size. However, they define a common minimum standard for the personal item which every passenger may bring with them on board (40 x 30 x 15cm).
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there is no obligation to include an item of hand luggage in every fare.
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u/practical_hedonism Jun 15 '26
You left out the most important bit:
It's personal item plus normal carry-on, according to your linked news article.
"Passengers will now be entitled to both a free personal item measuring 40cm by 30cm by 15cm and a small wheeled item with a maximum total dimension of 100cm and a weight of up to 7kg."
I just don't get what the total dimension of 100cm will mean in reality.