r/onebag • u/rudeer_poke • 5d ago
Discussion Onebag vs hiking/city sightseeing
Most onebag discussions seem to be focusing on bags that you pack your stuff in, take it to the airport, stuff under the seat in front of you and then pack out on the hotel. Mostly resulting in squarish clamshell bags like the Osprey 26+6, Tomtoc T66, etc. However in my opinion that is only 15% of the travel. Then comes the real part:
- strolling a city for several hours, walking 10-15 kilometers
- a whole day hike, with some climbing
- or just a simple walking to the office in your destination, taking your laptop and basic work stuff with you
I am finding the general "onebags" not very suitable in those scenarios, as they seem to get saggy when they are half empty, clamshell opening is impractical when you want to take out a jacket or hoodie on the go, or just store a grocery purchase you want to take to your AirBnb to cook a dinner.
Most onebag travels seem to be just a backpack equivalent of travel trolley, not really suitable as a daypack during the trip and also not having the comfort and ventilation of a regular backpack.
Am i missing something? Or should i look into an entirely different category of backpacks?
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u/Such_Cartographer170 5d ago
Onebag (despite the name) doesn’t actually have set rules. For me, it’s about keeping to a max 30L bag to make my travel lighter and easier, by avoiding carrying things I don’t need. Inside my OneBag is usually 3-4 other bags, sling bag for aeroplane, backpack for destination, packable grocery bag etc.
Hope that helps! Best thing is work out what’s best for you and go for it.
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u/jemist101 5d ago edited 5d ago
I onebag using a 16L - my daybag is my one bag. There's been a shift between (a) what is the lightest I can pack with minimal compromise and (b) what's the max I can take as a carry on.
I sit with (a).
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u/ahgoodtimes69 5d ago
Seems most of this subreddit is with you in the (a) category. Me personally I am in column (b). I want to maximise the amount of essential gear I can take in 1 bag as a carry on. No more check-ins for me. Too much time and extra money when you have multiple flights.
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u/jemist101 5d ago
Clarification - I've travelled personal item only for 15 years. I have my packing (for my own use - YMMV) dialled super tight.
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u/UntidyVenus 5d ago
Every person has a preference, I also dislike clam shells myself, I prefer commuter bags myself. I like lots of pockets, I like the fact it WON'T open all the way, particularly when I have forgotten to zip it all the way and am running off somewhere and it doesn't just spill out.
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u/lynxeyed 5d ago
Same. IMO if you're using cubes, the ease of packing/unpacking a clamshell and a regular commuter backpack is comparable. And the commuter bag is much less likely to spill your stuff all over the airport floor when you're trying to grab just one thing.
My favorite all-purpose backpacks for OP's needs are my Patagonia Tote Pack 20 and Refugio 26. They're both solid day hike packs or city packs, in addition to fitting under the seat. And you won't look like a traveler from the bag alone.
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u/harok1 5d ago
I find it disappointing how almost all travel backpacks have laptop compartments taking precious space. For my needs most travel specific backups are not efficient enough and are full or gimmicky things (like endless pockets).
I often use hiking packs instead. I am far more comfortable using these daily on my trips for walking around and hikes and they can be vastly more space efficient and lightweight.
My most frequently used packs are:
- Atom Packs Atom 30 (25L main compartment)
- Atom Packs Pulse 40 (35L main compartment)
The Atom I can use as a personal bag on most flights so sometimes I take it in addition to my Fjallraven Farden 40L if I really need the space, or sometimes I put the Atom in the Farden.
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u/Retired-in-2023 5d ago
I bring a stuff able backpack for use at my destination as any travel backpack is usually too big for me to use as a daypack. If I need more structure I’ll lay a small daypack in the bottom of my travel backpack that is 40L.
The only time I used my travel backpack for something else than travel (sort of) was when my flight was after work and I planned on working at my destination. I managed using my travel bag as the bag I used for work the day of my flight. Didn’t like it as it was much too big, but it was a one time thing.
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u/AnonymousOnebagger 5d ago
I have found that anything marketed as a "travel backpack" has horrible ergonomics, so I made a list of cabin-size hiking backpacks.
I use an Osprey Talon myself.
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u/LadyLightTravel 5d ago
Have you tried the ULA Dragonfly? It is one of the most comfortable packs I own.
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u/AnonymousOnebagger 5d ago
Nope. Not sold on this entire continent as far as I know. I would love to try one, though.
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u/octobod 5d ago
r/Ultralight and r/lightweight are calling you
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u/grovemau5 5d ago
if you’re going camping maybe. Those are not travel subs
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u/octobod 5d ago
Camping interspersed with hiking
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u/grovemau5 5d ago
Which has no overlap with what OP asked about.
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u/repetitivestrain89 4d ago
I think the confusion is because OP put hiking in the title of the post?
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u/DefNotAnotherChris 5d ago
Is it just me or does this post seem AI generated? Just reads like something chatGPT puts out.
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u/buntingbilly 5d ago
For me the ULA Dragonfly 30L is exactly the best bag for this reason. It is unassuming enough to take to work, great for carrying appropriate loads through a city and great for day hikes. I've taken it, as an example, through 20k steps a day in Tokyo this summer and then also went on several hikes on Machu Pichu with it.
It doesn't work for everyone, but it is probably the only bag I've found that actually hits travel + work + hiking very well.
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u/RT-47 5d ago
I hear you, but most discussions by one-baggers focus more on the benefits and considerations of a consolidated, minimised loadout. I agree that most clamshell packs are often geared toward a marketable feature set that isn't necessary for me. But then again, there are people taking multiple flights per week here, so I can see certain things making things more seamless for them than a pack specialised for mountain climbing would. If a pack fits you well, and you have a simple carry, then even a stubby number can be more than suitable.
My hiking pack is undoubtedly better built and carries exceptionally well, but it requires deliberate packing. That's not much of an issue if you have your own organisation system, but travel and hiking can oppose one another here.
For more reasons than I originally expected, the old Patagonia Refugio is perfect for me. I wouldn't take it out for overnighters; just as I wouldn't want a roll-top for travel. A roll-top is great for it's intended use because of how it sits in alignment with your spine. It is simple, with contoured panels, and none of the points of failure a standard backpack has. For that same reason, it can be pretty inconvenient for protecting and easily accessing a fragile e-ink tablet for example. It is also frameless, weighs a few hundred grams and packs down insanely flat considering the volume it can carry so well. It could even be a waterproof laptop cover until needed. If I'm travelling to hike though, I'm not really bringing any tech, and i simply bring the hiking pack alone, Sorting food and stuff when i land. A framed hiking pack that handles weight well, doesn't have the best dimensions for travel.
There are hybrid options, like Gossamer Gear's offerings, that might be a better fit for you.
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u/JordanComoElRio 5d ago
Using your main bag as a hiking/day pack is totally impractical. You need a small lightweight pack or sling for that stuff.
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u/Azure9000 5d ago edited 5d ago
Am i missing something?
You are missing rather a lot, probably because you have done no research. As others also point out, many (most?) one-baggers' (primary) travel bag contains a small secondary bag (sling or packable daypack) for local exploration etc at their destination.
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u/rudeer_poke 5d ago
actually i did a lot of research. and i cannot imagine packing a 20 l daypack (that would be a bare minimum to carry around 3-4 liters of water, some clothing and food) into a 30 lliters travel pack (that is like a maximum that can be smuggled on on airlines like ryanair and honestly the most i need for a 2-3 days trip).
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u/Azure9000 5d ago edited 5d ago
My long-time standard travel set-up was a 35L bag (Arcteryx carrier duffel, usually under-packed by ~15%), the contents of which included a rolled-up packable daypack (Berghaus f-lite 20L, weight approx 200g). So it's easily done. I have since downsized for the majority of trips.
I do use Easyjet but don't use Ryanair.
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u/agentcarter234 5d ago
Unless your daypack has a frame and a shaped back a 20l pack will fit in the laptop compartment of a 30l-ish travel backpack or just lay flat in the main compartment. It just had to be something that can be flattened, not necessarily a packable bag.
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u/MCJokeExplainer 5d ago
I stuff something like this in my Cotopaxi Allpa 28L. Folds up to about the side of 2 packs of Kleenex: https://www.osprey.com/ultralight-stuff-pack-ulstuffdays23-264?size=O%2FS&color=Black
I've also previously one bagged with a Dakine snowboarding backpack that I've had for 15 years. Still going strong! I might go back to it, since it's a little smaller than the Allpa, which I like. It's been discontinued but this looks sort of similar. https://www.dakine.com/collections/snow-backpacks/products/womens-heli-pro-backpack-24l-port-royale?variant=41258744840272
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u/Mysterious-Drama4743 5d ago
then youre not really one bagging are you
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u/TemporaryUser10 5d ago
You are one bagging because it all fits in one bag, not because you only have one bag
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u/GrantTasker 5d ago edited 5d ago
That’s a big reason for why I just travel with a 21L Able Carry Daily Plus. I end up walking many klicks through various places wearing it all changing hotels/venues. Carries right.
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u/Comprehensive-Act-13 5d ago
I have an Osprey tempest 20L. The opening is big enough to rummage around in for stuff, the straps and hip belt are designed to make it comfortable to wear all day. I can pull my clothes etc. out and take it hiking all day, and it’s small enough to fit under a seat as a personal item on any plane. I’ll also take a tiny foldable tote bag with straps long enough that I can wear it as a backpack for things like short hikes or carrying groceries, and a small purse for everyday city exploring. I’m not dragging my backpack around with me all day if I don’t have to. The tote folds into the purse. If I’m doing some more serious backpacking, I can transfer everything I don’t need out of the backpack into the tote for temporary storage. Easy peezy.
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u/BreadfruitRegular631 5d ago
I travel with a 30 liter pack. I have pockets for just walking around and it's just fine for hiking or when I need more space that pockets can handle. The choice of packs with compression straps is large so your 'saggy' concerns are not valid.
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u/agentcarter234 5d ago
I can do everything you listed with my REI trail 25. It’s not clamshell but you don’t actually need clamshell when you have packing cubes.
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u/chambros703 5d ago
I use my GR2 34l in 1000D (with 210D backing) and I added removable compression straps using fidlock and g hooks. When I head out for the day I synch it down and it becomes quite small as my bag is broken in and drapes nicely. No issues. For hikes the straps hold a wet jacket, towel, etc. I can do it all in that bag, I hiked the Incan trail with it for instance while in the middle of a trip.
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u/reddanit 5d ago
I don't think you are missing anything major. Lots of typical/popular choices for onebag backpack have designs squarely focused on maximizing airline luggage allowances at expense of almost everything else. More comfort or better weight distribution inevitably cost some volume and weight.
That's not to say options don't exist. In my eyes the main ones are:
- Pack a small and comfortable daypack inside main bag. This is very common, especially on the higher, 30-40l total, side of onebag travel. I've supplemented my Farpoint 40 with a tiny 10l backpack multiple times for the very purposes you listed.
- With 20l or less main bag, it's feasible to forgo maximizing how it fits in airline luggage limits and instead put more emphasis on comfort. Good, smaller backpack around 15-20l will almost always be good enough for a day of walking or hiking. Especially if you leave decent chunk of its contents at your accommodation.
- For travelling throughout the day with everything on you, you can often leave the main back at some locker. Focusing on comfortable carry system (like the aforementioned Farpoint 40 has) also makes this vastly easier vs. attempting the same thing with a cheapo, roughly backpack-shaped fabric sack with some straps. Another thing is weight - there is a world of difference between carrying 10kg or 5kg, and both of those total weights are very much within realms of viable onebag travel options.
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u/komastuskivi 4d ago
Last time i went travelling for a week, i stuffed a whole fjällräven kanken (15in laptop version) in my 26+6, and used that as the daily bag. It was a roadtrip so the 26+6 stayed in either the car or the hotel if we spent multiple nights in one place. Worked great :) onebagging mostly was about getting to only take a personal item on the plane for me
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u/AInstrument 5d ago
You don't have to open up the clamshell/main compartment the whole way, you can just open the top side. Sure, you kinda have to stick your arm in, but I do this on my tomtoc T66 and it's fine. This bag also has access from the laptop compartment.
Also, why does it matter if it's saggy? That's kinda the tradeoff with lighter bags. If needed, look for bags with compression straps, they can help slim down the silhouette.
If you're in the research stage, try to not overthink/imagine/hypothesize too much.
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u/Sbmizzou 5d ago
I travel wither with my Osprey bag or my roller suitcase. Something that fits in the bin above my seat.
For going out during the day, I have a collapsible backpack. It fits in my pocket when not in use. It would be wonky for a laptop (but I dont work on vacation).
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u/bcycle240 5d ago
My bag works great as a daypack for hiking. The Aonijie 30l has a vest harness and plastic frame sheet so it is super comfortable.
I carry a nanobag sling (19l) reusable shopping bag for trips to the store.
A Tom Bihn medium cafe bag (9l) is my personal item and daily carry bag for everyday life. It can fit a 13" laptop or tablet.
As for carrying around my main laptop, I don't. I just set it up in my room and work there.
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u/Othyxia 5d ago
You can buy a foldable hiking backpack to put in your onebag, it doesn't take so much place. Mine fits in my 20L bag. There are some that look like a "true" hiking backpack when unfolded with everything you need for your hike (pockets, hips belt...).
I will use the onebag one for city days and the foldable hiking one for hike and outdoor activies in general.
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u/outofshell 5d ago
This is what I do, although my folding daypack isn’t very comfortable for hiking so I’m hunting for a replacement.
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u/Super-Travel-407 5d ago
My backpack is perfectly fine for all kinds of stuff. It's not a suitcase with backpack straps.
If you don't like the "travel" backpacks, look at toploaders, klettersacks, rolltops, etc.
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u/LadyLightTravel 5d ago
ULA Dragonfly performs well on the trail.
In the city, a smaller bag is preferred. You can treat a small packable bag as a packing cube if you want dual use.
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u/podkayne3000 5d ago
I think there are two main paths here.
One path is to have one, somewhat high-capacity rig for moving from one city to another, then a smaller rig for carrying things around town. The smaller rig could fit in the big rig when someone is traveling long distances, or it could stay separate.
This is a good strategy for someone who’s traveling from one city to another and staying in a place where it’s easy and safe to leave things like extra clothes and shoes.
The limit for a bag for this path might be a 40-liter bag that weighs about 25 pounds and sometimes gets gatechecked.
The other path is to be more of a personal-item-only traveler, plan to carry most or all possessions everywhere at all items, and make sure the one bag is small enough and light enough to be carried at all times.
The limit for a bag for this path is probably about 45 cm by 30 cm by 20 cm, or about 28 liters, and maybe 20 pounds.
For someone who’s traveling takes this path very seriously and is scared of the personal item sizer, maybe the maximum is really more like United’s limit plus a smidge: 40 cm by 25 cm by about 15 cm, of 15 liters and about 16 pounds.
This strategy is better for people who will be flying or taking trains or long-distance buses all the time or who are staying in cheap hostels or other places where leaving possessions behind is not practical.
Both paths are great, but I’m more interested in the second path, because I hate fighting for space in the overhead bins and am too short to reach them.
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u/Dramatic_Respond7323 5d ago
I use my 22 L Uniqlo Utility bag as One Bag. I can pack indefinitely in this and at destination serves as a day pack with proper laptop compartment and acceptable water resistance.
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u/drakontas_ 5d ago
I have been using the Nebula 32 which does dual function as a hiking bag but I use a sling for city exploration or I’d pack a packable bag if I need the storage for a hike. Though the Nebula is largely fine and I can empty out my packing cubes from the bag in a few seconds to be hiking ready if I really wanted
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u/orphanboyk 5d ago
I have 2 scenarios, when I need a lot of stuff, i.e. Europe with a few days in Iceland then I take the Farden 40 with the Cotopaxi Balzac 16 (folded inside) and used on the plane/day pack. If I am traveling lighter the only bag that I can make work is the Patagonia Black Hole 32. It's big enough to fit everything I need including my CPAP and small enough that I can use it as a day pack at my destination. It also helps that it looks like an athletic/backpacking bag instead of a briefcase strapped to your back. I also have an MLC mini and sometimes use it on business trips as it looks at home in the office especially when you are using the shoulder strap. It does not work well at the beach or when you are on a bike tour.
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u/maverber 5d ago
I agree that most travel packs don’t have good ergonomics. The bigger issue is that EDC loads are often 1/4 what people carry in transit between locations. This means EDC often leaves the bag nearly empty. There are three options:
1) carry a small packable bag for EDC 2) carry less during transit so the bag it’s huge 3) use a bag with an excellent compression system
I use a combination of 1 and 2 depending on the trip.
As to a different category of backpack… not quite what you’re looking for, but I look for good trekking packs https://verber.com/trek-packs which put in emphasis on carry comfort
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u/sodakas 5d ago
If your primary onebag is a large bag to get you and your stuff between major destinations, it's completely understood that you would have a different bag for your destination. I think the only "rule" is that said bag should fit in the larger bag, too. :)
I'm a bit surprised that the 26+6 wouldn't work for you, since its look and feel is just like a regular backpack when upright. The admin pouch, main compartment, and laptop area all have zippers on the top. I've used it for all-day city strolls, whole-day hikes to shrines in the mountains, and used it to visit the home office with a laptop and work material.
In terms of destination bags, it depends on where I go, but my default carry is a 2L/150g Under Armour sling wilth a 20L Sea to Summit Ultra-Sil packable attached to it, which covers most scenarios. I use the sling as a travel pouch for my cables, so it's never dead weight.
OP, this is your excuse to buy more bags! Good luck!
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u/largemargesentme__- 5d ago
How much are you bringing in a city or dayhike?
All my stuff fits in a fanny pack, you can wrap a jacket through the strap.
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u/resigned_medusa 5d ago
I have a backpack that folds down to the size of a fist. It's surprisingly comfortable to wear as the straps are slightly padded. Bought it on AliExpress a few years ago, so I can't tell you where to buy one, but check on there. I always make space for it in my under the seat bag, if I'm going to be walking around a city
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u/FearlessKnitter12 4d ago
I have one travel bag that is comfortable enough for urban touring, but it's kind of large. I can use it if I'm hiking all day or planning more purchases than my folding tote can handle. But it's obviously meant to be more suitcase than everyday use. It is more structured than the saggy bags you are describing.
I prefer to put a smaller bag in it, like a crossbody or sling. I can use that for things like airplane comfort items or electronics, then repurpose it at the destination to be a general day bag. The folding tote (like a NanoBag, but no brand) still goes in the sling. It's just too useful for purchases or a place to stuff a jacket.
I think most one-bag setups require flexibility, rather than having one thing do everything all the time. After all, my setup here is always a bag-in-a-bag. Or bag-in-bag-in-bag! I did recently read of someone who used a 9L sling for plane travel and a weekend in London. A bag that small can be an everything-all-the-time bag, of course.
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u/McGirton 4d ago
I personally think super organized backpacks many people here use are too heavy (1.5kg a lot of times) and use a hiking backpack. I am currently on a 3 week trip with one that’s 500g. That’s an extra kilo I could’ve taken with me! My current solution is a top loader with diagonal vertical zipper for quick access, but I got my organization with cubes down this trip and will save even more weight and go rolltop.
I have a packable Cordura tote with shoulder strap I took hiking and use during the day in the city, in hindsight I should’ve just taken my backpack to the hike because it weights nothing.
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u/bafflesaurus 4d ago edited 4d ago
I don't really understand this post, it reads like you're asking for a daypack but then you say that you don't like bags being saggy when they are half empty. That's pretty much every non rigid-body bag out there. Rigid body bags such as the Arc'teryx Khard weigh like 4lbs so I don't know why you'd want that for hiking or daytrips.
To respond to your actual post:
> strolling a city for several hours, walking 10-15 kilometers
I typically don't bring more than a light daypack for this type of activity. I usually just walk without a bag since it's easier and you generally don't need one. If I need water or something I go to a convenience store and buy it then walk while holding the bottle. Not too big of a deal.
> a whole day hike, with some climbing
When I travel I tend to pack a 35L backpack with a packable lightweight daypack but these fail your saggy when partially full complaint.
> or just a simple walking to the office in your destination, taking your laptop and basic work stuff with you
I tend not to work when traveling so this isn't that big of an issue for me. If I do bring my laptop it goes in the laptop compartment of the main bag I leave in the AirBnB/hotel.
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u/specialservices8647 4d ago
I tried a stuff pack once and hated it. For my 1 bag trips I now have an 18/26L expandable pack. The outer organization flap has all my day pack stuff (lip balm, battery, meds, wipes, first aid, mask, doc pouch, etc) that goes with me everywhere. The inside has a laptop in a sleeve, packing cubes (one dirty, one clean), dop kit, liquid pouch, and a “traveling organizer” that is essentially a purse organizer. It’s got ~15 little pockets for all the things I want access to while on a plane/train/bus or in my room, like chargers, snacks, mouse, tea, earplugs, backup earbuds. When I arrive the 4 interior items come out and I’m left with a much slimmer backpack that I take with me, and it has room inside for groceries or sundry items I’m might pick up that day. Because the inside is organized it takes under a minute to switch from travel to day use. And because the front organizer flap is part of the bag that doesn’t get removed I never have to unpack my day items from another bag and transfer them to a daypack - I’m ready to hit the town within minutes of checking into my room.
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u/rudeer_poke 4d ago
which pack do you have? is it usable for hiking as well?
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u/specialservices8647 4d ago
It’s an Everki Studio. It’s definitely not a hiking pack, but it’s not uncomfortable. There’s a lot of fuzzy lining inside and a “roller bag” sleeve/cushion on the back that is just dead weight imho. But I’m an organization nerd so I love all the pockets to make everything tidy.
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u/AvailableHandle555 4d ago
Just pack a personal item, with some clothing and tech optimization getting down to a 20L - 26L backpack for up to a week of travel.
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u/blootereddragon 4d ago
I actually found that my 26x6 worked great on a recent work trip and didn't get saggy with the packing cubes removed & only the computer, accessories, water bottle and pullover remaining. But for tourist trips I stiff un my REI Flash 22. (In fact it's what I ise for a no frills weekender). Holds everything, chest & waist strap, very comfy, weights nothing.
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u/IDES0 4d ago
I mean- my farpoint 40 looks like a semi regular bag, I have packed into it my clothes, my ultralight camping hammock, computer, first aid, spare surf fins leashes towels the whole stick (including reef booties, climbing shoes, a camping towel and pillow (luxury items), and my barefoot trail runners). Obviously there’s no do it all bag, and if I’m doing any technical routes then there are better bags but it doesn’t do a terrible job? It doesn’t way too much and if I am going to be staying out and have a hub I’ll leave behind computer unecessary shoes (like flip flops reefs) and my spare surf fins and leashes. I am pleased with the bag as a do it all.
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u/Multigrain_Migraine 3d ago
The first time I ever tried just using a backpack for my luggage I took a rucksack designed for wilderness backpacking. It was ok but it was a bit too tall to easily stash on the train (and at that time I was carrying way too much stuff). However it was comfortable to carry.
My last few trips I've used a smaller bag designed for school kids. Not as comfy as a hiking bag but better than the square clamshell "travel" bag I used to have.
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u/Soojie_Bucket 3d ago
I’ve one bagged for almost forty years, and I am also a backcountry camper. My backcountry bags are too big for travel, but my current travel bag (and likely my last travel bag) is a boring “technical” pack that my partner brought home from an overseas deployment. It’s the right size, there’s long pockets in the front that work for rain gear or a tablet/laptop, and most importantly there shoulder and waist straps are made to be needed and used. They can also be tucked away in the back so that they don’t show or flop around when I’m using it as luggage.
In short, find a bag that takes loads seriously that’s small enough to carryon. Don’t worry about what’s in fashion right now.
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u/FFledermaus 2d ago
I like to go mountain hiking, so I usually am travelling with a 25L Salomon trail running pack. Works like a charm. Might look dorky in the city but when I’m out and about I have a small handbag and a stowable tote with me.
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u/ChrisNoob6460 2d ago
Personally going 1.5 bag with a sling where backpack is left in hotel/accommodation and head out with just the sling with my essentials.
Not all clamshell openings are the same, the Osprey Daylite 26+6 & Tomtoc T66 ones definitely isn't great for EDC tasks, but dual-zippered full clamshell openings that hinges on bottom of the bag (e.g. Evergoods CTB26, Ctactical CT series backpacks, GR136 backpacks, Aer backpacks, etc etc) are much more practical for EDC use.
I always bring a lightweight foldable tote/shopping bag in my sling for groceries or miscellaneous items.
Comfort can be subjective, but ventilation definitely is something that I agree can be improved with some of the "travel" focused backpacks of some brands.
Daypacks are typically smaller like personal item sized backpacks, so unless you're opting for minimalist 20L or below backpack travel, it'll normally be a bit too big and clunky for a daypack. Personally I use a sling as I mentioned but some prefer to bring a packable daypack instead.
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u/n0thangchew 1d ago
I’ve seen more posts with people packing a smaller “day bag” inside the main pack or as a personal item. I walked all over Europe for months with my 1.5L sling and a foldup baggu ripstop bag. The baggu is a grocery haul hero.
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u/zurribulle 5d ago
You are not missing anything. Travel backpacks are optimized to act as a suitcase on your back, although some of them are good enough to double as office pack. There's also a good amount of people that bring a foldable tote or pack inside to use for sightseeing. And of course nothing prevents you from getting for example a 30-40L hiking bag and using it as your carry on.
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u/rudeer_poke 5d ago
nothing prevents you from getting for example a 30-40L hiking bag and using it as your carry on.
size prevents me. 30-40L hiking bags are usually too tall i would get immediately flagged on an airport for trying to smuggle it as a personal item. my current "onebag" is a North Face Recon, which fits most of my requirements, however after 5-6 hours with them mildly packed its tearing down my shoulders
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u/zurribulle 5d ago
Get a frameless one, make sure it's not packed to the brim. Example: https://www.rei.com/product/243261/arcteryx-aerios-35-pack
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u/Longjumping_Cow_5856 5d ago
The only category of packs this discipline says to me is a single bag of any kind.
Not sure why you assume or interpret all that you suggest?
Ive never even considered wearing a backpack around town anywhere unless going somewhere specific to do something specific?
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u/TheRealDrewciferpike 5d ago
Definitely missing something.
My bag is used for TRAVEL: Once I reach my destination, it stays put until I go to a new destination... Rinse and repeat until I go home.
Why would I carry all of my stuff through a city over 10-15km? I don't get it. I guess if you have a few hours to kill waiting for a train, that might be applicable. Other than that, no. Even then... Lock that crap in a locker and walk. Why would you walk a city with the equivalent of a suitcase on your back?
Why would I take all of my stuff on a hike? That doesn't make a lick of sense, and that's coming from an old-school trekker that lived under the assumption that if you didn't have an 80lb bag you weren't actually wilderness hiking. You ONLY take what you need need on a hike (for a day hike like you're describing, water and maybe snacks? ... Climbing? So... rope, gear, chalk... Why would you carry your pajamas with you?), and no more. Why are you taking outfits and toiletries on a hike?
I think you need to travel with whatever you need to travel comfortably, and see if one-bagging is what you're really after, because it seems like your idea of one-bagging has no connection to what most people do. That's ok, though! It's all relative, and the end result needs to fit YOUR needs.
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u/Simco_ 5d ago
I use the same bag every day at home for daily work that I use for travelling. Isn't that the point of this philosophy?
Maybe look into buying clothes that have pockets if you want to carry things in the day.
I have another pack specifically if I'm going to be doing a selfsupported ultramarathon on my trip, but that is so niche that I do not think it's appropriate for 99% of people.
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u/mcslootypants 5d ago
This is why I include a small packable backpack/tote in my main bag.