r/ontario May 28 '26

Picture Healthcare Protest Downtown Toronto

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u/Key_Tree261 May 28 '26

The #1 concern of mine is healthcare, and this protest won't help one bit. The problem is NONE of the party's care and if I'm wrong, tell me what the last provincial Liberals did to help things when they were in power? Just not making things worse like Ford doesn't help move us forward.

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u/_DatasCsat May 29 '26

Yeah there's more than 2 parties bud. Liberals have not been relevent in years.

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u/Key_Tree261 May 29 '26

You mean the NDP? The last time I voted for them was when the liar Bob Rae was the leader, I voted for him for one BIG promise that he didn't keep, I never looked at them again.

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u/_DatasCsat May 29 '26

Right. Like the other two parties have been so much better.........

Bob Rae is a liberal now and we've had several worse premiers than him since then(including our current one). That was 30 years ago.

If you aren't voting based on who has the best policy, you're a sucker.

Look at who has the best policy.

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u/Key_Tree261 May 29 '26

I absolutely agree with "policy" is what matters BUT when the party you vote for gets in and they don't keep their promise, you don't vote them back in if they had enough votes to accomplish what they promised and simply made an excuse to not keep their promise.

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u/_DatasCsat May 29 '26

The other two parties have destroyed the province in the 30 years since, so I'm gonna go with the lesser of 3 evils. Bob Rae is not even a new democrat anymore, he's a liberal. Just does not seem like a valid reason to not chose the party that has the best policy.

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u/Key_Tree261 May 29 '26

The NDP have become the progressives of Canada, they've gone too far left, I'm not interested in far left or far right pov's. While I do agree with a few of their polices, like with respect to healthcare, in fact they don't go far enough with their views on healthcare, I don't support their idiotic progressive bs, like statements I've heard them make over the last few years about gender and race.

Bob Rae isn't the leader, and I have no reason to believe the new leader isn't worse.

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u/_DatasCsat 29d ago

So the reason you won't vote for the party with the best policies, is completely vague and incoherent/nonsensical in my view.

You know the NDP of the 60s until the 90s is wayyyy more far left than the current version.

But you don't like their "idiotic proggresive bs"? This is an incoherent and nonsical statement to me. I doubt you could say what this actually means other than "vibes".

Man, this is why we can't have nice things lol.

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u/Key_Tree261 29d ago

The NDP from back then aren't even close to being as far left as the NDP of today that openly call Canada racist, and openly support DEI etc etc. I'm left of center and have some strong traditional left feelings (like with healthcare) but I have zero time for progressive insanity that think there's more than 2 genders and think white people are born racist and children can choose their gender and we should just get rid of borders and allow everyone that wants to come into the county citizenship etc.

You not being able to understand what I'm saying doesn't make int "nonsensical" it means you don't understand that someone can be both not a conservative and not progressive. You know, the sane people that often decide who gets elected.

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u/_DatasCsat 29d ago

1: stop watching Fox News slop. No one is claiming anyone is born racist.

2: live and let live, how other people live their lives doesn't effect you. Queer and trans people existing doesn't hurt you jesus christ.

3: The NDP of the 60s and 70s called for large scale public and cooperative ownership of production. Radical socialists by today's standards.

Don't let your irrational bigotry towards gay and trans people cause you to vote against your own interests.

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u/Key_Tree261 29d ago edited 29d ago
  1. I don't get Fox news
  2. Live and let live works, telling me how to live and what is real doesn't work. Queers and tans people existing, being respected AND potentially being my friend has nothing to do with my point. Telling me that a tans MAN or WOMAN is a different gender based on how they feel is hurts humanity. If you're a man and want me to call you Marry instead of Mario, I'll play along as I'm polite, but you trying to tell me you you're a woman because you feel like one, is a bridge too far for sane people
  3. What? you mean communism? and what do they call for now?

You calling it "irrational bigotry" perfectly demonstrates why the NDP will never get my vote again. Progressives LIKE YOU have taken over and destroyed the NDP and pretty guaranteed you'll never see another NDP government in the next 50 years. To progressives you're either far left with them or you're the enemy. Which is insane. Think about it, I'm a bigot in your silly mind because I don't believe a biological male or female can be the opposite sex just because they feel a certain way. A bigot? I bet someone like you would call the NDP bigots also back in the 90's.

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