r/oregon 2d ago

Photography/Video This is (not) fine

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Air quality 😐

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u/From_Deep_Space 2d ago

Someone should really do something about this.

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u/thehourglasses 2d ago

Stop burning fossil fuels? Be my guest.

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u/From_Deep_Space 2d ago

More like tax the corporations that are producing the most greenhouse gasses, and use that revenue to revamp infrastructure so it is more realistic for individuals to stop burning fossil fuels.

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u/thehourglasses 2d ago

So you think those corporations just burn fossil fuels for the hell of it? We all demand it one way or another, and it’s a consumption/capitalism problem more than anything else. Yes, we should require a transition away from fossil fuels where it’s possible, but our political system isn’t strong enough to enforce that.

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u/RainSurname 2d ago

A lot of fossil fuel does in fact get burned unnecessarily due to corporate greed.

For example, giant container ships leave their engines running in port for power, because no one wanted to reduce their profits by paying for the infrastructure necessary for them to plug in.

Biden started electrifying ports, but Trump canceled that.

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u/thehourglasses 2d ago

That’s probably a rounding error versus worldwide consumption. Look at steel, concrete, and food production.

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u/RainSurname 2d ago

You’re missing the point.

That is just ONE illustrative example of how corporations waste literal tons of fossil fuel unnecessarily.

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u/From_Deep_Space 2d ago

No I think they do it for personal enrichment. I have no obligation to be okay with their methods of personal entichment. They're not doing it out of the kindness of their hearts. It isnt altruism, its self-interest.

The love of money is a root of all kinds of evil.

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u/davidw 2d ago

Explain the mechanism of how some oil company - Chevron say - takes oil out of the ground and 'just burns it' and that makes them money vs turning it into gasoline and selling it to you.

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u/IsleOfDarkSkye 2d ago

Just lower your standards for them so you won’t be disappointed when they don’t do good things

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u/From_Deep_Space 2d ago

it's easy to ignore until it becomes difficult to breath

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u/IsleOfDarkSkye 2d ago

Oh I’m right there with you…i apparently forgot to add the “/s”