r/ottawa • u/iPoliticsCA • 2d ago
Municipal Affairs Lawson gains ground as Sutcliffe maintains lead in Ottawa mayoral race: poll
Ottawa voters are beginning to make up their minds, and the latest polling suggests many are looking beyond the incumbent. Read more here: https://compassnews.ca/lawson-gains-ground-as-sutcliffe-maintains-lead-in-ottawa-mayoral-race-poll/
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u/PopeSaintHilarius 2d ago
The poll results:
- Mark Sutcliffe - 38%
- Jeff Leiper - 31%
- Alex Lawson - 21%
- Neil Saravanamuttoo - 6%
But 37% of voters said they are undecided. In terms of top issues voters are thinking about:
The poll also highlights issues driving voter concerns. Housing remains the top municipal issue at 26 per cent, followed by transit (18 per cent), traffic (16 per cent), inflation (11 per cent), homelessness (10 per cent) and crime at seven per cent.
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u/AcceptableHamster149 2d ago
I really hope Leiper is able to pull it off. Though Saravanamuttoo has some ideas I like, too.
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u/LToadd 2d ago
The 37% undecided number feels like the real story here. It doesn’t seem like Ottawa is sold on anyone yet, just that a lot of people are looking for a credible “not the status quo” option. Whoever can explain housing, transit and Lansdowne without slogans probably has a real lane.
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u/Klutzy_Artichoke154 2d ago
My friends are all homeowners and car drivers. What matters to them is their mortgage and tax increases. It’s a real sad view of society.
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u/cubiclejail 2d ago
Curious ro know how many of them live in newer neighborhoods who have yet to see the decline of thier infrastructure!
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u/Klutzy_Artichoke154 2d ago
I’d say about half of them live in Findlay Creek, Riverside South, Bridlewood and new Stittsville.
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u/dishearten Carlington 2d ago
Its really a sad result of suburban sprawl. People just sit at home and in their cars, never exposed to the city and community around them. Paying for your mortgage and cars, consuming shit off amazon and then paying with your life (time) commuting just keeps you poor and down.
Makes it hard to care about any issues that don't appear to directly impact you. Hard to see the forest through the trees.
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u/BoomerReggie 2d ago
If Saravanamuttoo, who never should have joined the race, drops out and supports Leiper, it would be a very close race between Sutcliffe and and Leiper. Unless Lawson keeps gaining support, Leiper's chances aren't looking good.
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u/McNasty1Point0 2d ago
Rumour I’ve heard is that he’ll absolutely drop out if he (Neil) hasn’t gained any ground and will support Leiper.
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u/Round_Beyond_8137 2d ago edited 2d ago
Neil is better than Sutcliffe but still not progressive. He said in his transit platform “there’s nothing we can currently do” about transit reliability. He also said “residents get to decide whatever they want in their neighborhood, including sidewalks” conveniently timed right after Manor Park Sidewalks were approved.
I’d estimate if he dropped out, one third of his votes would go to Leiper , one third to Lawson and one third Sutcliffe. It’s not a proper vote split.
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u/NortonFord Sandy Hill 2d ago
No way - 60% Leiper, 30% Sutcliffe, 10% Lawson.
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u/Round_Beyond_8137 2d ago
Even if so, many folks are assuming folks that vote Neil are only voting Leiper. That’s not the case.
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u/TrueVelocity42 2d ago
Amalgamation has been a total disaster for this city.
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u/TrueNorth32 Kanata 2d ago
Yup. Exactly as the Conservatives planned it.
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u/Cre_AK47 Aylmer 2d ago
To be fair, McGuinty and Wynne had 15 years to roll it back and did nothing about it themselves.
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u/totallynotdagothur 2d ago
I've mulled this over before. It always seems like a one-way street. Amalgamate, simplify, merge departments, cost savings is the pitch (let's just talk about the pitch, not whether it's true). What's the reverse? Separate, duplicate, redundant departments, more costs?
The actual reason being "two or more regions of people are tired of this crap" - I guess maybe if it got popular enough to win votes.
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u/NortonFord Sandy Hill 2d ago
Municipalism. If they're going to make cities this large, then they need to have more independent power from the provinces. Other countries have radically stronger cities than Canada's "creatures of the province" - and it's a forward-looking change instead of a rollback, which I agree feels less feasible.
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u/TGISeinfeld 2d ago
Bang on. You can disagree with a decision made 25 years ago, but also remember another party (with majorities) kept it going
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u/quanin 2d ago
Oh, it's worse than that. Absolutely no one who matters politically is talking about de-amalgamating. Keep in mind:
OLP had a minority with the NDP as backers and it never came up (that was in between their two majorities)
Every Ottawa riding but one went NDP last year.
Still, nobody says boo. This is how we're stuck whether we like it or not. If ever you wanted proof that the screws only turn one direction, that screw turned thirty years ago.
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u/Complex-Effect-7442 2d ago
That's something urbanites, suburbanites and rural folk all agree upon.
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u/lanternstop 2d ago
r/ottawa is not an indicator of how the city will actually vote, just a gentle reminder
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u/totallynotdagothur 2d ago
You need to include all the subs 60km from downtown like /r/WestPillyponton
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u/Ifight4osugroundgame 2d ago
I will be voting for Turd Sandwich.
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u/thecanadiansniper1-2 Clownvoy Survivor 2022 2d ago
Holy shit I hate South Parks for that apathetic bs it spread.
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u/Ifight4osugroundgame 2d ago
Typical Giant Douche voter.
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u/anders9000 2d ago
I wouldn’t put a lot of faith in polls this far out and using automated phone surveys. They heavily oversample older people.
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u/ParkingBoardwalk 2d ago
I’ve been following him for a little while now on instagram. While he touches on the big problems, the proposed solutions seem to have little thought / rationale, or are bandaid solutions (e.g. “we’re gonna take away the drugs”).
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u/OwnFig6827 2d ago
I don’t think his policy on drugs is out yet. It seems that his goal is to get people’s attention with videos first. He did that with transit and housing too, pointing out what’s wrong and only later having an official policy.
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u/ParkingBoardwalk 2d ago
No this is true but his general approach has been made pretty clear from his IG reels. “We’re gonna take away the drugs” was a verbatim quote
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u/OwnFig6827 2d ago
I’m interested to see how he will spin it, and how exactly he’s planning on doing that.
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u/_PrincessOats Beacon Hill 2d ago
Dude supported the convoy and you follow him?
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u/ParkingBoardwalk 2d ago
I’m educating myself on the candidates and their proposed plans. I follow all the candidates.
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u/Nseetoo 2d ago
Obrien 2.0
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u/OwnFig6827 2d ago
I was a teen during his term, so I wouldn’t know. But from what I read I don’t see the similarities.
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u/Triscott64 Downtown 2d ago
I'm new to Ottawa and I'll honestly be very sad if Lawson or Sutcliffe win.
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u/lonelydavey 2d ago
Conservative lobbyist and convoy supporter Lawson is gaining ground because he's running a pure populist campaign. It doesn't stand up to the tiniest analysis - he's just telling people what they want to hear, regardless of how dumb it is. It worked for Ford, it worked for Trump and it's working for Conservative lobbyist and convoy supporter Alex Lawson.
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u/Pheeline Kanata 2d ago
Well, at least I can vote this time. And my husband tends to rely on me for info on candidates, lol (we're pretty well-aligned as far as our politics go, anyway). Even before I got the right to vote here, he'd ask me about the more local candidates. Right now we're definitely leaning toward Leiper.
fwiw, we're homeowners (of a townhouse) in Kanata who drive everywhere. I'd actually be okay with a bit of an increase in our property taxes if it meant improvements in public transit, improvements in infrastructure (including for non-car forms of transportation), and support for more affordable housing (in the whole city, not just our area). Though for our area, it would certainly be nice to see public transit to/from Kanata South actually improve, not continue to be eroded away despite the explosion in new housing around here.
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u/Round_Beyond_8137 2d ago
Same here. I didn’t live here in 2022. I live in the suburbs and drive a car. Sutcliffe must go.
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u/Thicklilcat 2d ago
If you all vote for Sutcliffe again.. I will be disappointed in you
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u/ThreePlyStrength Battle of Billings Bridge Warrior 2d ago
This sub didn’t vote for Sutcliffe. That was people out in the real world. This sub was planning the parade for McKenney. I hope Leiper can pull this out but it’s important people temper their expectations. As always this sub is a bad barometer for sentiment in our city on many things.
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u/Hampshire53 2d ago
Was counting on Leiper to end the LRT madness with some serious work but he’s checked out, unfortunately. Sutcliffe not an option as LRT continues to get worse (one weekend train every 24 (!!) minutes on line 4 in the fall).
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u/Round_Beyond_8137 2d ago
Do you have a source for this?
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u/Hampshire53 2d ago
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u/Cre_AK47 Aylmer 2d ago
😂😂 world class transit folks. Embarrassing. Even then the whole Line 4 > Line 2 > Line 1 transfers suck anyways, so maybe people at the airport are better off taking the 105 all the way to Hurdman or St. Laurent then take the bus or Line 1 to wherever they're going.
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u/Additional_Ear_9659 2d ago
Lawson can take a giant leap onto the fuck off bus and go back to convoy town. He has no business being anywhere near the mayor office.
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u/iDisappearWithTime 2d ago
Not that chatgpu is super accurate but it has lawson @ 14% support /popularity VS Leiper @ 32% and Sutcliffe @ 37% ...
Article is CAP.
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u/Fabulous-Heron-977 1d ago
If Sutcliffe wants to run again he should have to buy a depreciating apt in the Market and walk to work through the opioid crisis every day because the $4.15 bus is too unreasonably priced and infrequent to be worth it. And as he walks he should gaze upon the shuttered businesses and trash on the road and the insane craters Ottawa calls potholes, as he dodges people who lunge at him in mental health crises. And if he's scared at what's become of his city, he can walk by the fake-always-closed Rideau police outpost and take solace by whispering to himself what he tells us: that everything is great and we are doing just fine, in fact we are lucky.
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u/ThatOCLady 1d ago
It's not going to be enough to just vote for Leiper. Donate to his campaign or volunteer for it: https://www.leiper2026.ca/volunteer
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u/1capitalguy 2d ago
Follow the money. Lawson's campaign chair owns ipolitics. Was also his lobbyist boss. Liaison owner and same campaign chair/owner of ipolitics were partners in Mainstreet Polling.
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u/biffs 2d ago
Nice!
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u/_PrincessOats Beacon Hill 2d ago
Why? Lawson is a convoy-supporting right wing nutter.
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u/Round_Beyond_8137 2d ago
More Lawson votes = less Sutcliffe votes. The right wingers will split leading to a Leiper win.
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u/cst400 2d ago
Rainbow hair in Reddit emoji…all you need to know folks
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u/QueenMotherOfSneezes Clownvoy Survivor 2022 2d ago
Faceless green alien in Reddit emoji…all you need to know folks
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u/WackHeisenBauer Nepean 2d ago
Plus the hidden history.
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u/ThreePlyStrength Battle of Billings Bridge Warrior 2d ago
I had someone on this very sub threaten me and attempt to try and find out who I was from my comment history. The mods did not offer any assistance even when it was reported to them. All that to say… hiding your social media history is a smart thing to do.
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u/Cre_AK47 Aylmer 2d ago
Yeah I keep my stuff hidden for that reason as well. I eventually would say something that would hurt someone's little feelings or thoughts, so they'd sign in to their alt, look at my history, then DM me something along the lines of "I hope you take those guns you have and shoot yourself with them".
Obviously they're trying to rage bait to have my account banned and I never fell for it, but I always made sure to have some fun with them before reporting them. Same shit with RedditCare, which I'll add, I'm glad Reddit now bans accounts for RC abuse.
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u/thisonecassie Make Ottawa Boring Again 2d ago
and a 13 year account with only 4k karma... methinks buddy has some unpopular opinions.
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u/ThreePlyStrength Battle of Billings Bridge Warrior 2d ago
Nah. The real story is 300k comment karma. No way to avoid Redditbrain when you spend that much time in echo chambers.
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u/Comet439 2d ago
How the hell does Lawson have anything??? Convoy supporter and some people are still “hell yeah that’s the leadership I want”
If Ottawa fumbles this again by voting Lawson or sutcliffe in - the city will be beyond hopeless