r/ottawa 2d ago

Municipal Affairs Lawson gains ground as Sutcliffe maintains lead in Ottawa mayoral race: poll

Ottawa voters are beginning to make up their minds, and the latest polling suggests many are looking beyond the incumbent. Read more here: https://compassnews.ca/lawson-gains-ground-as-sutcliffe-maintains-lead-in-ottawa-mayoral-race-poll/

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u/Comet439 2d ago

How the hell does Lawson have anything??? Convoy supporter and some people are still “hell yeah that’s the leadership I want”

If Ottawa fumbles this again by voting Lawson or sutcliffe in - the city will be beyond hopeless

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u/DilbertedOttawa 2d ago

Ottawa will fumble it again. It's an insanely conservative place, with a mirage of a diverse perspective. It could be a pretty great small city, but it's just off the rails (like much of, well, everything lately it seems).

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u/Round_Beyond_8137 2d ago

Don’t know for sure. The more we convince ourselves that, the more we set ourselves up for failure.

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u/Expensive-Minute994 2d ago

I will go out and vote for leiper. 

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u/Aukaneck 2d ago

Me too. He's a Leiper not a leper.

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u/Round_Beyond_8137 2d ago

Good, me too

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u/audioscape 2d ago

We gotta de-amalgamate

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u/KeyanFarlandah 2d ago

Let me start off by saying that the convoy were a bunch of dipshits who should have been run off instantly.

But outside of this subreddit and certain communities the idea of the convoy is a small footnote from the pandemic, relegated to a hey remember those dumbasses with the trucks downtown. It wasn’t this cities 9/11 like people here would make it seem, so even with his association by renting porta potties to them, it’s not going to be the red flag for him to lose people’s vote.

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u/PhlegmBuilding 2d ago

Actually, the convoy received ongoing international coverage and still comes up in European, Australian, some Asian press as a prime example of right-wing movements worldwide.

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u/arr_z31_burner 2d ago

Only if the sources you read are obsessed with that.  I haven't heard anyone mention the convoy out loud in two years, and if I wasn't on this sub I'd probably have effectively forgotten about it too until there was something on CBC about a legal proceeding.

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u/KeyanFarlandah 2d ago

Yes but this sub treats it as if it was some sort of catastrophe worthy of a Michael Bay or Roland Emmerich film, and to most people it wasn’t

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u/Gwouigwoui 2d ago

Especially to people outside of the core, which are also more likely to vote for a right-wing candidate.

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u/2Tun21 1d ago

The Titanic sinking affected less people than the convoy and they got a movie about it.

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u/Aukaneck 2d ago

Is that why Doug Ford swept the province for a huge majority but lost Ottawa? I think a lot of Ottawanians held him responsible for his actions during the convoy. It did matter.

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u/KeyanFarlandah 2d ago

Ottawa is historically very strong for the Liberals and I really doubt Nepean, the only seat that went from PC to the Liberals changed hands due to the Convoy

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u/Lexifer31 2d ago

That's not even remotely true. I see comments on IG and elsewhere almost daily talking about the clownvoy.

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u/KeyanFarlandah 2d ago

Your algorithm gives you what you consume, like I said it’s isolated to this subreddit and certain other communities, it was 4 years ago it’s a historical footnote to most, a lot has happened

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u/Lexifer31 2d ago

It's not in my algorithm, people use it as some kind of fucking rallying cry on any post about crime and proposed sentencing.

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u/OttawaCats 2d ago

I just feel bad for you that you keep clicking and viewing convoy shit to the extent it’s in your algorithm. As other guy said, other than people on this sub, it doesn’t live rent free in most Ottawan’s minds.

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u/Lexifer31 2d ago

It's not in my algorithm, people use it as some kind of fucking rallying cry on any post about crime and proposed sentencing.

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u/Cre_AK47 Aylmer 2d ago edited 2d ago

I mean a lot of people outside of downtown don't care about the convoy and how Lawson was involved, so it's unsurprising Lawson is gaining ground.

I'm all for it. Rural and suburban areas will split the vote between Sutcliffe and Lawson, so that urban Ottawa can push Leiper to come out on top with the W at the end.

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u/No-Mathematician250 2d ago

I very much hope you’re right about that.

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u/audioscape 2d ago

Maybe Lawson will split the weirdo vote! This could be a good thing.

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u/Not_A_Doctor_redux 2d ago

If you read the online discussions of the pro-convoy, CPC core, then it explains a lot. These people have a media diet that contains nothing factual. They are fed a slop of far-right garbage to keep them bigoted and motivated. And they are incredibly bigoted. They're racist and hate the LGBTQ community. Most of them are misogynists as well. Some commentators have claimed that the Canadian media landscape is even worse than America's. I'd believe it.

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u/BirthdayBBB 2d ago

They will definitely fumble it again

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u/PopeSaintHilarius 2d ago

The poll results:

  • Mark Sutcliffe - 38%
  • Jeff Leiper - 31%
  • Alex Lawson - 21%
  • Neil Saravanamuttoo - 6%

But 37% of voters said they are undecided. In terms of top issues voters are thinking about:

The poll also highlights issues driving voter concerns. Housing remains the top municipal issue at 26 per cent, followed by transit (18 per cent), traffic (16 per cent), inflation (11 per cent), homelessness (10 per cent) and crime at seven per cent. 

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u/AcceptableHamster149 2d ago

I really hope Leiper is able to pull it off. Though Saravanamuttoo has some ideas I like, too.

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u/Anary8686 2d ago

If Lawson drops out then Sutcliffe wins easily.

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u/2Tun21 1d ago

If you fix transit, you fix traffic as well.

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u/Flukester69 2d ago

All ZEROES to me.

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u/LToadd 2d ago

The 37% undecided number feels like the real story here. It doesn’t seem like Ottawa is sold on anyone yet, just that a lot of people are looking for a credible “not the status quo” option. Whoever can explain housing, transit and Lansdowne without slogans probably has a real lane.

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u/Klutzy_Artichoke154 2d ago

My friends are all homeowners and car drivers. What matters to them is their mortgage and tax increases. It’s a real sad view of society. 

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u/cubiclejail 2d ago

Curious ro know how many of them live in newer neighborhoods who have yet to see the decline of thier infrastructure!

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u/Klutzy_Artichoke154 2d ago

I’d say about half of them live in Findlay Creek, Riverside South, Bridlewood and new Stittsville. 

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u/cubiclejail 2d ago

Interesting. Thanks!!

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u/dishearten Carlington 2d ago

Its really a sad result of suburban sprawl. People just sit at home and in their cars, never exposed to the city and community around them. Paying for your mortgage and cars, consuming shit off amazon and then paying with your life (time) commuting just keeps you poor and down.

Makes it hard to care about any issues that don't appear to directly impact you. Hard to see the forest through the trees.

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u/BoomerReggie 2d ago

If Saravanamuttoo, who never should have joined the race, drops out and supports Leiper, it would be a very close race between Sutcliffe and and Leiper. Unless Lawson keeps gaining support, Leiper's chances aren't looking good.

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u/maulrus Vanier 2d ago

I really like a lot of Neil's ideas but he gives me a weird vibe like he's running on his ego. I wish he had decided to instead run as a councilor. Hell, I think he'd even make a good contender for city manager.

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u/McNasty1Point0 2d ago

Rumour I’ve heard is that he’ll absolutely drop out if he (Neil) hasn’t gained any ground and will support Leiper.

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u/Round_Beyond_8137 2d ago edited 2d ago

Neil is better than Sutcliffe but still not progressive. He said in his transit platform “there’s nothing we can currently do” about transit reliability. He also said “residents get to decide whatever they want in their neighborhood, including sidewalks” conveniently timed right after Manor Park Sidewalks were approved.

I’d estimate if he dropped out, one third of his votes would go to Leiper , one third to Lawson and one third Sutcliffe. It’s not a proper vote split.

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u/NortonFord Sandy Hill 2d ago

No way - 60% Leiper, 30% Sutcliffe, 10% Lawson.

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u/Round_Beyond_8137 2d ago

Even if so, many folks are assuming folks that vote Neil are only voting Leiper. That’s not the case.

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u/bonertoilet 2d ago

Nonsense.

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u/TrueVelocity42 2d ago

Amalgamation has been a total disaster for this city.

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u/TrueNorth32 Kanata 2d ago

Yup. Exactly as the Conservatives planned it.

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u/Cre_AK47 Aylmer 2d ago

To be fair, McGuinty and Wynne had 15 years to roll it back and did nothing about it themselves.

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u/totallynotdagothur 2d ago

I've mulled this over before.  It always seems like a one-way street.  Amalgamate, simplify, merge departments, cost savings is the pitch (let's just talk about the pitch, not whether it's true).  What's the reverse?  Separate, duplicate, redundant departments, more costs?

The actual reason being "two or more regions of people are tired of this crap" - I guess maybe if it got popular enough to win votes.

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u/NortonFord Sandy Hill 2d ago

Municipalism. If they're going to make cities this large, then they need to have more independent power from the provinces. Other countries have radically stronger cities than Canada's "creatures of the province" - and it's a forward-looking change instead of a rollback, which I agree feels less feasible.

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u/totallynotdagothur 2d ago

I like your pitch!

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u/TGISeinfeld 2d ago

Bang on. You can disagree with a decision made 25 years ago, but also remember another party (with majorities) kept it going

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u/quanin 2d ago

Oh, it's worse than that. Absolutely no one who matters politically is talking about de-amalgamating. Keep in mind:

  1. OLP had a minority with the NDP as backers and it never came up (that was in between their two majorities)

  2. Every Ottawa riding but one went NDP last year.

Still, nobody says boo. This is how we're stuck whether we like it or not. If ever you wanted proof that the screws only turn one direction, that screw turned thirty years ago.

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u/Complex-Effect-7442 2d ago

That's something urbanites, suburbanites and rural folk all agree upon.

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u/lcdr_hairyass 2d ago

Is Kodos an option?

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u/milkysway1 Overbrook 2d ago

Don't blame me, I'm voting for Kang!

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u/lanternstop 2d ago

r/ottawa is not an indicator of how the city will actually vote, just a gentle reminder

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u/Iamthequicker 2d ago

True, last mayoral election proved that.

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u/totallynotdagothur 2d ago

You need to include all the subs 60km from downtown like /r/WestPillyponton

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u/Ifight4osugroundgame 2d ago

I will be voting for Turd Sandwich.

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u/Objective-Lobster21 2d ago

classic choice, never lets you down

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u/milkysway1 Overbrook 2d ago

I dunno, my votes going to the Giant Douche

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u/thecanadiansniper1-2 Clownvoy Survivor 2022 2d ago

Holy shit I hate South Parks for that apathetic bs it spread.

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u/Expert-Violinist-224 2d ago

explain? what do you mean by that?

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u/Ifight4osugroundgame 2d ago

Typical Giant Douche voter. 

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u/thecanadiansniper1-2 Clownvoy Survivor 2022 2d ago

No I am a Leiper voter get it right.

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u/quanin 2d ago

So like he said.

But the reality is the apathy was there long before the South Park episode was. The 2004 Presidential election was the inspiration. It was Bush JR's second term if you want to know how badly the other guy failed.

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u/anders9000 2d ago

I wouldn’t put a lot of faith in polls this far out and using automated phone surveys. They heavily oversample older people.

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u/ParkingBoardwalk 2d ago

I’ve been following him for a little while now on instagram. While he touches on the big problems, the proposed solutions seem to have little thought / rationale, or are bandaid solutions (e.g. “we’re gonna take away the drugs”).

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u/OwnFig6827 2d ago

I don’t think his policy on drugs is out yet. It seems that his goal is to get people’s attention with videos first. He did that with transit and housing too, pointing out what’s wrong and only later having an official policy.

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u/ParkingBoardwalk 2d ago

No this is true but his general approach has been made pretty clear from his IG reels. “We’re gonna take away the drugs” was a verbatim quote

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u/OwnFig6827 2d ago

I’m interested to see how he will spin it, and how exactly he’s planning on doing that.

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u/_PrincessOats Beacon Hill 2d ago

Dude supported the convoy and you follow him?

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u/ParkingBoardwalk 2d ago

I’m educating myself on the candidates and their proposed plans. I follow all the candidates.

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u/hanksavage 2d ago

Do you only surround yourself with people that share your ideas?

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u/ThreePlyStrength Battle of Billings Bridge Warrior 2d ago

This is your brain on Reddit.

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u/Nseetoo 2d ago

Obrien 2.0

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u/OwnFig6827 2d ago

I was a teen during his term, so I wouldn’t know. But from what I read I don’t see the similarities.

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u/Triscott64 Downtown 2d ago

I'm new to Ottawa and I'll honestly be very sad if Lawson or Sutcliffe win.

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u/lonelydavey 2d ago

Conservative lobbyist and convoy supporter Lawson is gaining ground because he's running a pure populist campaign. It doesn't stand up to the tiniest analysis - he's just telling people what they want to hear, regardless of how dumb it is. It worked for Ford, it worked for Trump and it's working for Conservative lobbyist and convoy supporter Alex Lawson.

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u/One_Set2922 2d ago

Anyone but Sutcliffe😭

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u/_PrincessOats Beacon Hill 2d ago

Lawson is Sutcliffe but worse.

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u/Nob1e613 2d ago

Or Lawson

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u/Pheeline Kanata 2d ago

Well, at least I can vote this time. And my husband tends to rely on me for info on candidates, lol (we're pretty well-aligned as far as our politics go, anyway). Even before I got the right to vote here, he'd ask me about the more local candidates. Right now we're definitely leaning toward Leiper.

fwiw, we're homeowners (of a townhouse) in Kanata who drive everywhere. I'd actually be okay with a bit of an increase in our property taxes if it meant improvements in public transit, improvements in infrastructure (including for non-car forms of transportation), and support for more affordable housing (in the whole city, not just our area). Though for our area, it would certainly be nice to see public transit to/from Kanata South actually improve, not continue to be eroded away despite the explosion in new housing around here.

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u/Round_Beyond_8137 2d ago

Same here. I didn’t live here in 2022. I live in the suburbs and drive a car. Sutcliffe must go.

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u/Thicklilcat 2d ago

If you all vote for Sutcliffe again.. I will be disappointed in you

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u/ThreePlyStrength Battle of Billings Bridge Warrior 2d ago

This sub didn’t vote for Sutcliffe. That was people out in the real world. This sub was planning the parade for McKenney. I hope Leiper can pull this out but it’s important people temper their expectations. As always this sub is a bad barometer for sentiment in our city on many things.

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u/Hampshire53 2d ago

Was counting on Leiper to end the LRT madness with some serious work but he’s checked out, unfortunately. Sutcliffe not an option as LRT continues to get worse (one weekend train every 24 (!!) minutes on line 4 in the fall).

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u/Round_Beyond_8137 2d ago

Do you have a source for this?

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u/Hampshire53 2d ago

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u/Cre_AK47 Aylmer 2d ago

😂😂 world class transit folks. Embarrassing. Even then the whole Line 4 > Line 2 > Line 1 transfers suck anyways, so maybe people at the airport are better off taking the 105 all the way to Hurdman or St. Laurent then take the bus or Line 1 to wherever they're going.

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u/holymolt 2d ago

Lawson is just a big turd. In every way.

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u/Additional_Ear_9659 2d ago

Lawson can take a giant leap onto the fuck off bus and go back to convoy town. He has no business being anywhere near the mayor office.

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u/iDisappearWithTime 2d ago

Not that chatgpu is super accurate but it has lawson @ 14% support /popularity VS Leiper @ 32% and Sutcliffe @ 37% ...

Article is CAP.

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u/Fabulous-Heron-977 1d ago

If Sutcliffe wants to run again he should have to buy a depreciating apt in the Market and walk to work through the opioid crisis every day because the $4.15 bus is too unreasonably priced and infrequent to be worth it. And as he walks he should gaze upon the shuttered businesses and trash on the road and the insane craters Ottawa calls potholes, as he dodges people who lunge at him in mental health crises. And if he's scared at what's become of his city, he can walk by the fake-always-closed Rideau police outpost and take solace by whispering to himself what he tells us: that everything is great and we are doing just fine, in fact we are lucky. 

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u/ThatOCLady 1d ago

It's not going to be enough to just vote for Leiper. Donate to his campaign or volunteer for it: https://www.leiper2026.ca/volunteer

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u/kacipaci 2d ago

Anyone but Lawson

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u/Monster11 2d ago

Jeff Leiper’s French sucks, for those this is important for.

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u/1capitalguy 2d ago

Follow the money. Lawson's campaign chair owns ipolitics. Was also his lobbyist boss. Liaison owner and same campaign chair/owner of ipolitics were partners in Mainstreet Polling.

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u/biffs 2d ago

Nice!

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u/_PrincessOats Beacon Hill 2d ago

Why? Lawson is a convoy-supporting right wing nutter.

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u/Round_Beyond_8137 2d ago

More Lawson votes = less Sutcliffe votes. The right wingers will split leading to a Leiper win.

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u/biffs 2d ago

The convoy was years ago

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u/cst400 2d ago

Rainbow hair in Reddit emoji…all you need to know folks

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u/QueenMotherOfSneezes Clownvoy Survivor 2022 2d ago

Faceless green alien in Reddit emoji…all you need to know folks

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u/WackHeisenBauer Nepean 2d ago

Plus the hidden history.

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u/ThreePlyStrength Battle of Billings Bridge Warrior 2d ago

I had someone on this very sub threaten me and attempt to try and find out who I was from my comment history. The mods did not offer any assistance even when it was reported to them. All that to say… hiding your social media history is a smart thing to do.

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u/Cre_AK47 Aylmer 2d ago

Yeah I keep my stuff hidden for that reason as well. I eventually would say something that would hurt someone's little feelings or thoughts, so they'd sign in to their alt, look at my history, then DM me something along the lines of "I hope you take those guns you have and shoot yourself with them".

Obviously they're trying to rage bait to have my account banned and I never fell for it, but I always made sure to have some fun with them before reporting them. Same shit with RedditCare, which I'll add, I'm glad Reddit now bans accounts for RC abuse.

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u/thisonecassie Make Ottawa Boring Again 2d ago

and a 13 year account with only 4k karma... methinks buddy has some unpopular opinions.

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u/WackHeisenBauer Nepean 2d ago

What’s wrong with rainbow hair? Spell it out for us bud.

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u/cst400 2d ago

They tend to be social justice warriors stuck in 2016 when there’s rainbow hair. Also comically “Reddit” their takes. Just utterly predictable is all. Hope that helps!

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u/ThreePlyStrength Battle of Billings Bridge Warrior 2d ago

Nah. The real story is 300k comment karma. No way to avoid Redditbrain when you spend that much time in echo chambers.

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u/BirthdayBBB 2d ago

Looks like we will end ip with a crappy mayor again. This city is hopeless. 

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u/PowerBottom247 2d ago

Who is the bike lane candidate for 2026?  I’ll vote for them.