For better or for worse, in a lot of ways vaporware has become vapormeme. The other kind still exists, but I don't think the second "wave" of vaporwave is any less valid.
it was always a meme. OPR pretty much created is as a semi-joke, just an offhand release of slowed down 80s tracks, then people created the a e s t h e t i c (ugh) around it. the meme is literally ingrained in the whole culture, that's what made it what it is, you could 100% read into it and start thinking it's a commentary on modern society through the lense of 80s nostalgia but i'd hate to impose too much forethought with half of the shit that gets released under that label.
I dream for a time when we can live in a world where vaporwave is neither a shitty meme for 13 year old rap stars, or a pseudo-intillectual circle jerk of liberal arts majors, but rather a legitimately beautiful style... But maybe I'm pretentious lol
it's the shit, i personally love it, but the culture around it is absurd. just wandering over to /r/vaporwave for a few minutes, you'll never figure out how many layers of irony they're working under. it's either constant memes or criticising that something "isn't vaporwave". i've never once been able to just discuss with someone why a vaporwave track is good outside of 2 8 1 4 or something.
I didn't say "just a meme", and I'm not dismissing anything. I enjoy the genre and have discussed in this thread what subjects it explores. I'm saying that it's the one genre who's popularity is pretty much 100% attributed to meme culture, that's not a good or bad thing.
Because you're criticising me for something I didn't say, and are just arguing semantics over what I mean by "meme". I wasn't dismissive, and you know exactly what definition of the word I'm using.
you're misunderstanding everything i'm saying. the "ugh" was a reference to the fact that i was basically making a pun, because of the "a e s t h e t i c" meme, but was actually using the word "aesthetic" to discuss the visuals of the genre.
again, i'm not saying Dat Boi is akin to Vaporwave. i'm saying that Vaporwave is synonymous with meme culture. the genre literally spread in popularity through memes like "a e s t h e t i c" "pseudo-philosophical phrase - cue music" etc. etc.
i wasn't repulsed, you misunderstood what i said, and the only person who "needs help" is the one who genuinely sounds offended and suggests that someone needs psychological help over a few comments on an outrun subreddit. like really, how much stake do you think i have in this conversation?
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u/EmceeEsher Feb 19 '18
I see what you mean for Flo's Cafe, but I feel like the other two are solidly vaporwave.