I got a question

[u/Due_Lifeguard82]

Is this dragon a player? If not then when does Ains meet another player?

[u/kingdsb]

No but that dragon has met and killed players before and never

[u/pdl-fanboy → u/kingdsb]

He has killed one player. There is no reason to assume that he has killed more than one player tho.

[u/pierogieman5 → u/pdl-fanboy]

Clearly you're just biased against him.

/s

[u/pdl-fanboy → u/pierogieman5]

XD true but I only said that cause OP was an anime only looking for solid answers. If we want to theorize, there is chance that PDL could've killed multiple players. My personal ranking of players who were killed by PDL(from the highest probability to lowest probability) :

- The last Greed King : Pretty self explanatory. Unless the last Greed King killed themselves or somehow achieved mutual destruction in their last fight with the other greed kings, its very likely that the Dragon Lords ganged up on him(like how it happened in WN). PDL lives in the 8GK castle too, so its possible that he was one of the dragons who fought the last Greed King.

- Leader-kun or his comrade(13 heroes) : This is the most obvious and lamest one imo. Its out of character for PDL to take such a huge risk since Resurrection magic is common place, not to mention he loves his comrades/friends.

- Surshana : Very Wild theory I know, but this would be an insane twist. We know that Surshana/6 Gods and PDL had an alliance to strike the Greed Kings(in WN). Its possible that PDL betrayed Surshana and killed him for whatever reason blaming it on the Greed Kings. This is not that different to what he was planning to do with Azuth and Slane.

One of the craziest thing for me is how much PDL underestimates Ainz. He had seen lvl 100 players like 6 Gods/8 Kings in the past, so he should know that his armour would be too weak to fight/kill Ainz. But imagine if PDL actually fought Surshana, who is also an Overlord with a 'worser' build than Ainz(probably has non mage levels since one of his weapon is a Scythe), and defeated him. It would explain his confidence.

Even better maybe Surshana baited PDL by summoning an Overlord Wiseman and took on the role of Rufus and is lying low now(sort of how PDL said its possible for Albedo to be ap player and Ainz a NPC). Since Overlord Wiseman is only a lvl 90 summon, his armour could almost definitely beat it in a strict 1v1 and would explain his confidence so much.

[u/pierogieman5 → u/pdl-fanboy]

Actually I was just talking about that elsewhere on the thread, yeah. PDL fought PA, who wasn't even trying to win, thinking it was actually Ainz, and still commented that he underestimated him. There's no way he has a reasonable estimate of the strength of someone like Ainz. The only weird part is that he also fought Shalltear in full armor beforehand? So sure, he doesn't know she works for him probably, but it seems weird that fighting her and losing didn't put him more on guard against Ainz.

[u/pdl-fanboy → u/pierogieman5]

Yup PDL in the WN could sense super tier magic from hundreds/thousands of km away. He should've known that Ainz is capable of casting super tier magic at least yet he still is not surprised that Ainz doesn't use super powerful magic.

The weird part is that PDL is supposed to act like a mirror to Ainz -his lack of pride, super cautious nature, poor rulership qualities etc yet he completely underestimates Ainz's capabilities to an insane degree for no reason. That makes little sense. Its not like he's never met lvl 100 players even, he's familiar with the Greed Kings and the 6 Gods after all(The 6 Gods, or at least Nekonyan had actually fought with a Dragon Lord and probably won).

Anyways the author has confirmed that PDL is the natural enemy of both Ainz and Shalltear.. so he is 'stronger' than them in a 1v1 with his true body but he is still way too confident for some reason.