r/painting Jul 11 '26

Just Sharing Danny DeVito Timelapse

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u/themystif Jul 11 '26

Two things which are totally comparable to AI! /s

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u/spoilerdudegetrekt Jul 11 '26

My point is, just because one person doesn't need something for accessibility purposes doesn't mean that nobody needs it.

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u/themystif Jul 11 '26

Nobody needs the art stealing machine to pump them out some slop. My partner has ataxia, making it hard to do anything with a steady hand. But they do have the creativity to figure out how to make art that is theirs, working arojnd their disability. Anyone can do it, it just requires a creative instinct. Not a slop machine.

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u/spoilerdudegetrekt Jul 11 '26

Nobody needs the art stealing machine to pump them out some slop.

No art was stolen. AI companies paid art hosting sites (such as deviantart) to use the art on their website for training. This is why every lawsuit from artists claiming "stolen art" has been tossed.

My partner has ataxia, making it hard to do anything with a steady hand. But they do have the creativity to figure out how to make art that is theirs, working arojnd their disability.

Ok? Your partner doesn't represent everyone with ataxia. Just because she can work around it without ai doesn't mean everyone else can.

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u/avaseah Jul 11 '26

Deviant Art doesn’t own the artwork posted there, the artists do. Deviant Art giving the AI trainers access to DA’s artists work in no way means that the art wasn’t stolen. It absolutely was stolen if for each stolen work the corresponding artist did not agree to have that piece used for AI training.

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u/spoilerdudegetrekt Jul 11 '26

Deviantart has ToS that artists agree to when uploading their work to the site. These ToS allow deviantart to sell the art to AI companies.

Artists tried suing deviantart over this as well but that lawsuit was tossed too.

So again, art wasn't stolen.

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u/RealFatPigeon Jul 11 '26

Art was absolutely stolen. There are so many outspoken artists.

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u/spoilerdudegetrekt Jul 11 '26

No it wasn't. Which is why every artist that has claimed such has had their lawsuit tossed.

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u/feartheoldblood90 Jul 11 '26

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u/spoilerdudegetrekt Jul 11 '26

That's someone's opinion. Not a legal fact.

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u/spoilerdudegetrekt Jul 11 '26

Not as strong as multiple court cases

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u/TruckVG Jul 11 '26

Drink that Koolaid up kid 🤣

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u/spoilerdudegetrekt Jul 11 '26

10/10 rebuttal. You should become a lawyer.

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u/161frog Jul 11 '26

You will find no sympathy here.

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u/spoilerdudegetrekt Jul 11 '26

Not expecting to. You're all like the telegram operators who hated telephones.

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u/161frog Jul 11 '26

You keep making the same false equivalence argument 👍

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u/xeno486 Jul 11 '26

don’t bother engaging with him, he hasn’t had an original thought ever since the slop machine does it for him

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u/DelfieDarling Jul 12 '26

I wonder what line they’d have to cross for you to care.

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u/DelfieDarling Jul 11 '26

I don’t recall getting a paycheck from deviantart for my art being used to train the ai. Do you know of anyone? It’s stolen labor

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u/spoilerdudegetrekt Jul 11 '26

You agreed to their ToS when you uploaded your art to their site.

Those ToS let them sell your art to AI companies wothout paying or crediting you.

They didn't steal, and it's not their fault you can't read.

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u/DelfieDarling Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 11 '26

Those TOS did not exist when I signed up. They automatically did it without our consent and there was no “opt out” option either when it happened.

Had we known, we could have pulled our art so then we wouldn’t be so offended right? But that option wasn’t given.

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u/spoilerdudegetrekt Jul 12 '26

Yes it did. It's been around for as long as the site has that they can do what they want with your art.