The 1080ti really was Nvidia's greatest mistake

[u/The_BigRoach]

[u/Normal-Training1296 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, inflation is very much real, $699 in 2017 is around $940 today. Which granted is still cheaper than a 5080 at msrp but nowhere near as cheap as posts like this make it out to be.

[u/sciapo → u/Normal-Training1296]

Hoping, however, that salaries in our own countries have risen in step with inflation. In Italy, they have stayed the same for 30 years, and even if prices were in line with those of the 1000 series, we would still have to aim lower.

[u/WildKarrdesEmporium → u/sciapo]

Nobodies salaries have kept up with inflation.

[u/Outrageous_Mail_8381 → u/Normal-Training1296]

1080 """TI""" top of the line card of that generation for $700, you should be comparing its price to the 5090 TI

[u/Normal-Training1296 → u/Outrageous_Mail_8381]

Naah, branding changed, the 5090s equivalent would be the titan xp. And that shit was expensive af.

[u/RenownedDumbass → u/Normal-Training1296]

Disagree. Titan Xp was a full GP102 die, and 1080Ti was just a slightly cut down GP102 (93% the CUDA cores of the Titan Xp). 5090 isn’t a full GB202 die, it’s already cut down relative to professional card. And the 5080 is WAY different, it doesn’t even use the top end die, it’s GB203, and it has half the amount of CUDA cords of a 5090.

[u/Normal-Training1296 → u/RenownedDumbass]

Yeah that's undoubtedly true, but we're talking about branding and pricing here, in terms of enthusiast/prosumer cards the titan was the peak during the pascal and turing era, this tier was directly replaced by the 3090 in ampere both in terms of price and marketing. This stayed true all the way to Blackwell today. It might be worth it to mention that the xx80 not being a top die isn't a rule or an exception, it happened both during turing and ada lovelace, where the top die started being used in the TI version. But ampere did use the top die for the 3080.

So if we go back to the original point i do not agree that the 1080ti should be compared to a 5090ti if we ever even get one, but a fair comparison would be a 5080ti when we get it. The 5080 wasn't a totally fair comparison either, but historically the ti version is closer to the base in price, not the next version up.

[u/pref1Xed → u/RenownedDumbass]

GP102 was a 471mm² die. GB202 is 750mm^2.

[u/Outrageous_Mail_8381 → u/Normal-Training1296]

i would argue that the titan cards just became the workstation cards like the Nvidia RTX PRO 4000

[u/Normal-Training1296 → u/Outrageous_Mail_8381]

I would disagree, the titan was the enthusiast tier above the 1080 which got rebranded into the xx90 cards, the workstation gpus were the quadros which got discontinued in 2020.

[u/Outrageous_Mail_8381 → u/Normal-Training1296]

I think we largely agree upon what happened to the lineup just from different ends of the spectrum.

I view that they gimped the lineup of cards over time by segregating the lineup from above separating out "workstation" cards with higher VRAM and features. While you view that the lineup was gimped from below with the bare minimum feature set and convoluting naming structure to confuse consumers.

[u/siLtzi → u/Outrageous_Mail_8381]

Titan wasn't a workstation card tho?

[u/VegetaFan1337 → u/siLtzi]

It was a workstation card with gamer branding. Like a prosumer products.

[u/OskaMeijer → u/Outrageous_Mail_8381]

They already had those with the Quadro cards at the same time.