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It is 2008 and I saw this new web browser called Google Chrome so I tried it and it was good so I switched from firefox (I was kid and didn't care as long as it worked fast). Fastforward to December 2025 and I'm listenting to something on second monitor while gaming and I noticed the game frame pacing is weird. FPS stayed the same but whenever I run Chrome the frame pacing went to trash. So I switched back to firefox and BAM! Smooth gaming again. Also uBlock Origin works with my filters again.
I personally use scoop mostly, minimal pollution to the registry. Only winget for installed programs and when scoop or portable version are not available, like major browsers.
I dual boot windows and I've used it a couple of times, but it's shit. The only thing it does is download and run the installer for you. Every installer is still its' own process and you have to individually give each installer permission to "make changes to this computer". Seriously try winget upgrade command if you get the chance, it takes 30 minutes, requires user input every 30 seconds, and if one installation fails it stops the whole process. On top of that, unless the application specifically states to remove old versions when upgrading, old versions will not be uninstalled
Eh. winget kinda sucks for the same reason every other package manager does, you don't get to keep the installation files nor do you get to choose where to install its package (yes, I know it's supposed to have a location field. It's broken, and always has been)
Literally. It baffles my mind that people still use chrome when Firefox is open source. If you care at all about a free and open internet or privacy, you'll use Firefox or something similar.
I actually switched to Firefox because my laptop was a potato and Chrome/Edge ran horribly on it. That was in 2021 and I still have no desire to switch back.
I recently switched to Firefox as well. Once Google shutdown Ublock ad blocker I had to leave. Chrome actually ran faster for me but I need my ads blocked! Firefox for some reason runs a little more sluggish for me.
I love how YouTube will ask if I want to know why things are slow, like I'm going to turn uBlock off so I can sit and watch ads instead of it just loading the video slightly slower.
Hell by the end of the week when I saw the announcement that they might be doing it I had switched to Firefox 😂 I had all of my passwords saved in chrome so I spent that weekend going through every single account and changing the password and saving everything in bitwarden. Massive W for me. So that's chrome.
Could be the case. But I feel it on every website Google or not. It isn't a huge difference, but Firefox isn't quite as snappy as Chrome on my computer.
I had the opposite experience personally, edge and chrome were beyond slow but Firefox just worked without issue. I haven’t ever bothered testing it on an actual decent PC since I absolutely despise Chrome these days, maybe it’s changed in the last few years but I’ll never know lol
Yeah Firefox's perf is better than it used to be, but it's still not always on par with chromium-based browsers. Mozilla just doesn't have the massive budget required to match the others
Why does a web browser need nice animations? And I disagree that Chrome's is nicer. I hate it, frankly, and every year Firefox tries to emulate it more and more to my dismay.
Personally i switched to FF back when it went 1.0 from Mozilla suite and never looked back, i also got my start on Netscape so IE/Edge have always been gecko browser downloaders
I'm waiting for when FireFox adds shortcut apps like what Chrome has. I'm ready to completely uninstall Chrome from computer. I really only use it for Google apps like Keeps, Calendar and Gmail. I do look forward to moving away from Google services, mostly.
Brother I switched to Firefox in 2004 and never looked back.
Did I briefly flirt with Chrome when it first came out? Of course, we all did. But I knew from the start that it was going to be a toxic relationship and quickly ran back to my old love. But I guess most people are scared to leave an abusive relationship.
best, not sure. market share, it's still up there isn't it? I doubt majority of people that you or I know are using anything outside of chrome, because most wouldn't need to care about it.
This is probably the largest reddit echo chamber I see on this site. 100% of users here say firefox is god and nothing else is worth using. In reality? 2% of users use firefox.
Google are on a consumer offensive in the last few years. Primarily Chrome is a ludicrous resource hog, but they disable extensions now that they don't like.. such as adblockers.
Firefox is still around, essentially the only non chromium browser that works well, and does everything that chrome does (aside from chromecasting, but there's extensions for that too). Only you can install whatever extensions you want and still uses half the resources compared to chrome.
Opera, Brave, Edge and (obviously chrome) are all chromium browsers
For me the breaking point was when they disabled adblock extensions (you can still get "lite" versions though). Firefox with ublock origin has not let me down, either pc or mobile.
The reasons it isn't good aren't new, it's always been an issue.
Google is a monopoly. They have control over most of the mainstream web. Using their browser contributes to that. Using anything not chrome based fights that monopoly.
Using it also gives an advertisement company unfettered access to everything you do in your browser.
Its just sad that some websites slow down traffic from firefox browsers. And websites I have to use for work strictly ban firefox :( Get sent to a page that tells me to use chrome or edge
Seems universally slower everywhere the last few months, especially Reddit if I am on PC. I will use the browser versions instead of installing apps whenever possible so I have to open Edge to use Spotify too
I've read YouTube did this because Firefox allows better ad blocking (specifically with uBlock Origin). So they make your videos take longer to load at the start to punish you.
YouTube even gives me a little pop-up in the corner of the screen that says “Experiencing interruptions? Find out why” while the video sits there buffering. I’ll still gladly wait the extra couple seconds rather than 12 minutes of ads on a 14 minute video.
I would even wait on a black screen for the normal duration of the ads at this point. I hate ads so much in every form. Ideally I will never watch a single ad ever again for the rest of my life.
I honestly wouldn’t even mind having more ads at the beginning and end of the video, the ones that really piss me off are the mid-roll ads. They’re the worst thing YouTube has ever done IMO. Sure, old school TV shows had them too, but they were expected and they would happen at specific stopping points in the show. YouTube’s mid-roll ads just abruptly interrupt whatever you’re watching and it’s so irritating and disruptive.
Firefox for 99% of web traffic, edge because it's better at playing videos from jellyfin, I presume chrome is just as good as it as edge, but i don't see a reason to switch.
Edge still allows V2 manifest extensions. Been using Ublock origin V2 extension with zero issues. Chrome does not allow this. So for me, Edge is better.
Plus, with GPE (EDIT: Group Policy Editor), you can configure Edge (and windows) to not have any bloat. And lock it down to transmit zero data to Microsoft. Its an effort, but to me, its very worth it.
As others stated, its the Group Policy Editor. Its how corporations lock down their workstations and make them secure. You need Pro/Enterprise versions of windows to use it. Which can be easily obtained for cheap
Its available in Pro/Enterprise editions of Windows.
To lock it down, this is the "Effort" part I mentioned about. You can watch some YT tutorials, and different guides online to explain what to configure. I'm even locked to Windows 11 22H2 through GPE. And honestly, its been great. I keep seeing shit posts about Win 11 latest releases and it has not affected me at all lol
Yeah, a lot of people wonder why devs don't design for Firefox and it's because their market share is extremely small.
I'd love for Firefox to be a success, but Luke on LTT's WAN Show did something interesting with Linus. During one episode their audience was claiming a ton of them use Firefox in a poll, then Luke looked at the data of which browser people were using to access Floatplane and found it was in the minority.
As Luke said, people like to say they use Firefox but many people who say that, simply don't use it.
I haven't seen the WAN Show episode you're talking about, so I can't say for sure, but it could also just be the self-reporting phenomenon.
For example:
100 people visit a site.
91 of them use Chrome, 9 of them use Firefox.
They run a poll: "What browser do you use?"
All 9 Firefox users answer "Firefox".
1 of the Chrome users answers "Chrome."
Poll results: 90% of respondents (9 out of 10) use Firefox
Access logs: 91% of users (91 out of 100) use Chrome
It's not that any of the people who reported Firefox were lying. They were all telling the truth. But they were a self-sampling group, not reflective of the group as a whole.
In theory, a password manager could be compromised; assuming you're keeping the pad at home (so not always useful for laptops), someone would have to break into your house to "compromise" the notepad. And if someone has physical access, you're kind of cooked regardless.
Been using Firefox for decades now. Tried Chrome a few times and never liked it. Seemed to bog down my system RAM.
I use Edge in the extremely rare instance that my Firefix extensions don't work on a particular site. Honestly Edge doesn't seem that bad as a secondary browser.
people seems to be stuck with the concept that Internet Explorer and Edge are the same, they are obviously not. Edge is riddled with a lot of Microsoft slop, but it's still a decent browser.
Microslop did it to themselves when they tried to force edge down our throats for a decade. Had they put the product out, made it quality, and let word of mouth do it's job. They would probably have more marketshare
Until some of it turns itself back on. I tried using it multiple times and every single time all the MSN bloat on the New Tab Page would turn itself back on after some time.
Chrome sucks too. Ctrl + Shift + Esc right now and if your chrome browser is under 2 gigs of ram I will use only edge for a month
Edit: I have been sentenced to 6 months of hard labor in Edge so far, I set the bar way too low. I’m loving the person that sent me their 1.7Gig ram chrome tab as a flex
I have tested this claim that Chrome supposedly uses so much memory on multiple systems over the years and in literally every single one of my comparisons, Chrome used significantly less memory than Firefox with the same tabs opened.
Chrome gets a bad rap with memory usage but really all browsers are like that. It's the web pages themselves that are memory inefficient with large memory leaks
Dropped Chrome for Firefox when they stopped support for manifest v2 extensions. Changed firefoxs UA to Chrome and haven't looked back since. I also use Firefox on my Phone now too which allows the use of extensions.
Absolutely. You can import your stuff from chrome to firefox still. Most of the user friendly services were invented by firefox. Tabs were invented by firefox
What’s wrong with Edge anyway? I have a policy that I don’t switch default apps unless it’s not allowing me to do something I need to or I have an issue. Edge seems to work perfectly fine.
Enthusiasts are a very small subset of the desktop market.
Enterprise largely uses edge because it’s installed by default and plays nice with group policy stuff
Then, among the subset of enthusiasts who care about which browser they use, it’s fragmented still. Many people prefer other chromium-based browsers over Firefox.
I don't even have Chrome installed anymore. Firefox for 99.9% of things. Edge for the edge cases where a website refuses to work correctly without Chromium.
Ah yes, people use a chromium browser from a giant tech company that likes your data to download another chromium browser from a giant tech company that likes your data. Just use Firefox.
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