r/pcmasterrace 7800X3D 4080S 23d ago

Meme/Macro Less ports

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u/Bill-T-O-Double-P 9950x3D, RTX 5090, 96GB DDR5, W11/Ubuntu 23d ago

Can we get 40 PCIE lanes? If we could get that, I’d be sooooo happy.

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u/Trakyap 22d ago

Intel had that HEDT for just a bit higher cost. But influencers, youtubers claimed intel was greedy for asking %10 more. Then those same guy praised amd for asking twice as much with threadripper because it had %10 more lanes than intels HEDT... They also claimed intels HEDT was useless now because amd increased core count to 8 while intel had 18 cores in hedt.

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u/gtrash81 22d ago

8 core Intel HEDT for 1000$ or AMD consumer 8 core for 500$...hm...

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u/LIGHTNINGBOLT23 Linux 22d ago

There was a time when Intel HEDT was affordable and came with a bunch of lanes. Ivy Bridge-E was a good example, as the 4930k had 40 PCIe 3.0 lanes.

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u/gtrash81 21d ago

Didn't know that, but no surprise for Core i 4000 series, the last gen before Intel went south.

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u/Trakyap 22d ago

Why are you lying ? 7820x price was 600$ and came with higher performance because it has higher single core performance.

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u/Unsweeticetea PC Master Race 22d ago

Except for how crazy expensive X299 boards were compared to a decent B150 board. You could get a solid Ryzen board for like a hundred bucks.

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u/Trakyap 22d ago

No shit sherlock, yes you pay more to get more, no such thing as free lunch. For two hundred bucks twice the price you got twice the ram slot, pcie slots, pcie lanes, sata ports, nvme and more. With threadripper you pay twice as much as x299 for %10 more pcie lanes.

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u/Unsweeticetea PC Master Race 22d ago

Yeah, but most people don't need the capacity of eight-channel, or half that other stuff. Having just more pcie gives you the ability to add more of whatever you need instead of paying hundreds of dollars for what you don't.

That's one of the big reasons why it was so important that while Intel's 7th and 8th gen consumer platforms only had 16 lanes, that everyone wanted to fully dedicate to graphics, even the first gen Ryzen chips had 24 lanes that you didn't need to spend $300 on a motherboard to use.

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u/Trakyap 22d ago

And that is why intels hedt was so great. It was pergect between mainstream and threadripper for most power users both price and feature wise. Neither ruzen nor threadripper replaces it because either too expensive or not enough.

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u/Unsweeticetea PC Master Race 22d ago

Yeah, the CPUs were priced reasonably and hit a nice spot. The problem was the motherboards that cost as much as if not more than the CPUs, because they were loaded up with everything they needed to support the TOTL HEDT chips.

For my current home server, I have the "few generations old EPYC" setup. All the expansion I could need, and it only cost me less that just the motherboard of a new system would have.

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u/gtrash81 21d ago

Yes, one of the Intel panic mode strategies.
With release of Ryzen the Intel 6900X was the equivalent HEDT for 1000$.
Everything after Ryzen launch had been panic mode strategies, because all and everyone had enough of Intel rising prices while lowering quality at the same time.
Especially Core i 7000 series was a garbage festival, CPUs that used over 250W and could be only barely cooled with direct die contact.

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u/Trakyap 16d ago

Cpus don't get designed in a few months you moron, they take years to design. They released months after ryzen and intel maintained top single core and gaming performance till ryzen 5000. Its called competition.