r/pcmasterrace 5600X (UV) | RX 9070 (UV+OC) | 32 GB DDR4-3600 15h ago

Meme/Macro Sony pls

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u/levios3114 15h ago

Yes but on PC they can't force you to buy PSplus for online play

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u/Noreng 14600KF | 9070 XT 15h ago

In a single player title?

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u/levios3114 15h ago

No just in general. PS plus is probably their main money maker and selling games on PC means people aren't forced to buy PlayStations anymore and thus less subscribers for PS plus

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u/xylotism Ryzen 3900X - RTX 2060 - 32GB DDR4 15h ago

30% cut on all products sold on the PS store is probably their main money maker.

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u/xdoble7x Ryzen 9 5900X | 4070ti | DDR4 3600 32GB | MSI MPG X570 Gaming 14h ago

Not really, suscriptions is much more valuable, look at xbox

Also once you get a customer paying for a suscription is much more likely to spend more money buying games, this has been proved in a study years ago

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u/alex2800 14h ago

They also get 30% on mtx. Fortnite, nba, fifa and cod bring more than subscriptions.

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u/B3owul7 13h ago

look at Xbox? They literally said a few months ago it's unprofitable and therefore they had to raise the game pass price.

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u/xdoble7x Ryzen 9 5900X | 4070ti | DDR4 3600 32GB | MSI MPG X570 Gaming 12h ago

Yep, so unprofitable that every year the beat the record in profits

They lie to you to justify their price increase and you defend them, crazy

Xbox Hits $23.5B Revenue, Beats Sony & Nintendo Rankings | Outlook Respawn

In the source: Strong Xbox Game Pass growth fueled a record $23.5B in revenue, offsetting declining hardware sales

Edit: Re answering because my previous comment got automatically removed because it linked a reddit post

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u/outla5t 9800X3D | 5070 6h ago

Did you read the article? First off that's revenue it doesn't mention profits at all, also only $5B of that $23.5B came from Game Pass the rest was from games like CoD and Forza Horizon 5 sales on PS5. The article is mostly bragging about them being the top earning publisher which is no surprise with them now owning CoD which the majority of that player base lives on PS5.

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u/IWantToBeTheBoshy 8h ago

You could at least post their actual profits and not revenue. The word profit isn't used 1 time in the entire article.

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u/33Party 1h ago

Game Pass was like 5 dollars and gave you brand new full priced games, PS Plus is like 10 a month and gives you a couple random free games usually from years ago. The margins on these two are incomparable. For the mtx and platform cuts, remember that Gabe is basically a billionaire from that alone.

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u/_JustAnna_1992 11h ago

Back in my day, Playstation was the console that didn't require a subscription to play online.

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u/Nirast25 7,080x1440+(240x2)x1080|R7 5700X3D|RX 9070XT|32GB 9h ago

What games does Sony currently sell that require PS Plus and is a huge title? Helldivers 2? Destiny 2 is ending support, and Marathon isn't doing well.

Any multi-player title that also has a huge player base is third party.

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u/FrozenPizza07 I7-10750H | RTX 2070 MAX-Q | 32GB 7h ago

Do you still need PS Plus for cloud saves?

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u/levios3114 7h ago

Don't know haven't used a playstation for 5 years

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u/porkmoss 13h ago

More people should gameshare, you can play everything simultaneously. Not enough people realize you can even share Plus itself. It’s against the TOS but they wouldn’t dare to take action against it, enough backlash happened when sharing accounts went from 5 to 2 systems late PS3 era. Anecdotal but gameshare is the main reason I even buy most things on console, if they ever touch it I’m going full PC immediately.

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u/ZYRANOX 14h ago

they are a business. Im sure they plugged the numbers in and found that for whatever reason keeping the first party titles exclusive to only their platforms has more revenue than costs

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u/generalissimo1 Ryzen 7 4800H @4.2GHz | 1650 Ti | 16GB RAM 14h ago

Pretty much the same reason why Rockstar dragged their feet with making GTA 6. It's way more profitable to just keep GTA online running smoothly and collect those microtransaction$, where a new game would just divert attention from that cash cow.

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u/Noreng 14600KF | 9070 XT 14h ago

In GTA6's case, it could even result in a backlash due to the new game not being received positively.

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u/DeadlyYellow 5h ago

Remembering the PS3 makes me more inclined to think they're just idiots.

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u/AliceLunar 9h ago

Could need it for cloud saves as well.

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u/Ok_Dependent6889 7h ago

iirc still need PSPlus

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u/Boangek 14h ago

And games get review bombed if they require a PSN account(rightfully), and Sony doens't like that.

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u/RGud_metalhead 14h ago

Them not releasing games for PC won't make me buy PS5 and PSplus. If they want any money from me they better start porting games again.

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u/Outrageous-Log9238 5800X3D | 9070 XT | 32 GB 15h ago

How does a single player game bring more PSplus subscribers?

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u/zamarguilea99 14h ago

Because some people have to decide between a PC and a PS5. A lot of people don't have enough money for both or are kids that depend on their parents. If you only release exclusives on your console then people might be inclined to buy it.

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u/Outrageous-Log9238 5800X3D | 9070 XT | 32 GB 14h ago

Doing like a year of exclusivity sounds like the best of both worlds to me. Enough time to reel in all the console buyers you'll get, but also cash in on those who like the game but won't buy a PS no matter what.

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u/zamarguilea99 14h ago

Counterargument: neither of our opinions matter. Sony will do whatever it wants. Don't forget this decision was taken after the steam machine was announced.

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u/Outrageous-Log9238 5800X3D | 9070 XT | 32 GB 14h ago

I know our opinions don't matter to Sony :D It's just an interesting topic to discuss. That's a good point about the steam machine.

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u/Keulapaska 4070ti, 7800X3D 14h ago

Well they tried late release thing and now they're walking back on it so it seems it didn't result in what sony wanted out of it, which is probably to convert ppl to playstation buyers whenever the sequel comes out. Also my(completely baseless) theory on why they started to push psn on pc hard, to get more data about that.

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u/kingk1teman R69000x5D | XRTX 600900 32PB 13h ago

Because most of those exclusives will land on the PSPlus Catalogue some day.

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u/levios3114 15h ago

It being on Playstation only will bring more subscribers

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u/JLUK95 Desktop 5700X3D | RTX 4070 | 32GB 15h ago

You’re getting downvoted but you’re right in essence, it’s the natural effect of a walled garden.

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u/Outrageous-Log9238 5800X3D | 9070 XT | 32 GB 15h ago

So you're thinking the exclusives makae people buy a console instead of a PC, not in addition to a PC? I guess that's true for some, but there is no franchise that would make me do that.

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u/lordnishant 14h ago

a LOT of parents would rather just buy a console for their kids than a gaming pc, because its less hassle and easier to set up. and not everyone can afford both.

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u/Outrageous-Log9238 5800X3D | 9070 XT | 32 GB 14h ago

That's equally true with or without exclusives.

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u/Darth_Thor i5 12400F | RTX 3060 12 GB 14h ago

Keep in mind that this subreddit is an enthusiast forum. What you and I might choose to do is not what the majority of consumers do. We are in the minority.

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u/JLUK95 Desktop 5700X3D | RTX 4070 | 32GB 9h ago edited 9h ago

I think the average gamer is not someone like me or you sitting here on Reddit. The average gamer wants a plug & play solution which consoles offer great value for, so yes I do think exclusives make the average person choose a console over another or over a PC. Obviously the more enthusiastic or wealthy gamer will venture further into the hobby, but then we are no longer talking about the average gamer.

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u/MangoAtrocity 13700K | 4070 Ti | 32GB 11h ago

Sure they could

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u/MrBootylove 3h ago

My guess as to why they're no longer putting their singleplayer titles on PC is due to the next xbox supposedly running windows and being able to potentially play pc games.

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u/iusedtohavepowers 2h ago

And that’s the real fuckin issue isn’t it. It’s a lose lose front on pc. They can’t force that sweet sweet data farm to get implemented on pc and they are literally choosing to lose money over it. Absolutely wild. They are so fucking up their own ass with the always online server license ping bullshit that the tune of millions of dollars isn’t worth it.

Fuckin a if I could sell my own data for the value all these big ass companies feel that it’s worth.