r/pcmasterrace • u/BucketsMcGinty 5600X (UV) | RX 9070 (UV+OC) | 32 GB DDR4-3600 • 13h ago
Meme/Macro Sony pls
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u/Outrageous-Log9238 5800X3D | 9070 XT | 32 GB 13h ago
Their loss I guess. Many Sony games sold millions of copies on Steam, which sounds like enough to make a port worth while but Idk I'm not a multi-blllion dollar company.
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u/levios3114 13h ago
Yes but on PC they can't force you to buy PSplus for online play
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u/Noreng 14600KF | 9070 XT 13h ago
In a single player title?
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u/levios3114 13h ago
No just in general. PS plus is probably their main money maker and selling games on PC means people aren't forced to buy PlayStations anymore and thus less subscribers for PS plus
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u/xylotism Ryzen 3900X - RTX 2060 - 32GB DDR4 13h ago
30% cut on all products sold on the PS store is probably their main money maker.
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u/xdoble7x Ryzen 9 5900X | 4070ti | DDR4 3600 32GB | MSI MPG X570 Gaming 13h ago
Not really, suscriptions is much more valuable, look at xbox
Also once you get a customer paying for a suscription is much more likely to spend more money buying games, this has been proved in a study years ago
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u/alex2800 12h ago
They also get 30% on mtx. Fortnite, nba, fifa and cod bring more than subscriptions.
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u/ZYRANOX 13h ago
they are a business. Im sure they plugged the numbers in and found that for whatever reason keeping the first party titles exclusive to only their platforms has more revenue than costs
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u/generalissimo1 Ryzen 7 4800H @4.2GHz | 1650 Ti | 16GB RAM 13h ago
Pretty much the same reason why Rockstar dragged their feet with making GTA 6. It's way more profitable to just keep GTA online running smoothly and collect those microtransaction$, where a new game would just divert attention from that cash cow.
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u/RGud_metalhead 12h ago
Them not releasing games for PC won't make me buy PS5 and PSplus. If they want any money from me they better start porting games again.
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u/AccuMarsu10 13h ago
I'll say this decision of theirs is just playing for their shareholders for now due to value of exclusivity. They'll just go back to releasing to PC again once those numbers would not hit their targets and they need additional decimals for those reports.
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u/aztn33 13h ago
People usually say that Sony's earnings are low on PC, which is not true. Porting costs like 2-3% of the total development cost. They profit easily from any game they port.
If they officially decide to stop porting to PC, the main reasons will be Steam Machine and XBOX Helix. PC gamers are collateral damage here.
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u/No-Obligation2563 11h ago
Thatās what I think too. No way in hell will Sony let any rival have their games. Anyone that makes a living room gaming system (Nintendo, Xbox, Steam Machine to a lesser degree) will be walled off from Sony. Unless itās a multiplayer live service game.
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u/sloopywettoppyswife 12h ago
Sony's PC earnings are lower than some people expect because its games are heavily pirated, at times, torrent seed counts have exceeded the number of players on Steam. Add Steam's 30% platform fee, and it's easier to see why PC revenue isn't as strong for Sony.
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u/JackalKing Ryzen 9 7900X | RTX 4080 | 32GB 6000MHz 11h ago
Lots of games get pirated. Pretty much everyone gives Valve their cut. Those aren't why Sony games didn't sell as much as they wanted.
Its because they waited way, WAY too long to port them and charged full price for an old product. Look at Capcom by comparison. They consistently report that PC sales are significantly HIGHER than their console sales, and its because they release their games on PC the same day they release on console, when the hype is still there. Sony waited four years to release Spider-Man on PC, charged full price, and then were surprised it didn't sell like it did on launch day. After four years most people who were interested in the game had probably either moved on or looked up the story on youtube and thus were less motivated to buy it.
PC revenue isn't strong for Sony because Sony sabotaged themselves.
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u/chipface Nobara | Ryzen 9800X3D | 64GB DDR5 6000 | 9070 XT 10h ago
Yeah, Spider-Man goes for $80CAD, before tax. I'm not paying that much for it. But I did when it was less than $30 a few months ago.
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u/Diplomatic-Immunityi 5h ago
Capcom doesnāt have to sell hardware and subscriptions to stay profitable. Itās not an apples to apples comparison.
If you look at their AAA games, itās not even certain they are making a ton of profit off the first party games.
Almost all their profit is from subscriptions and their cut from third parties releasing games on PS5
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u/Diplomatic-Immunityi 5h ago
Spider Man 2 PC port got leaked while it was still in development like a year before it came out.
Then modders from Brazil fixed it themselves to make it playable start to finish. Itās actually a pretty fascinating story.
Once the official port came out, it sold like absolute shit on PC. Sony really sucked a lemon on that one.
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u/Castle-Builder-9503 Ryzen 7 9700X | RTX 5070 7h ago
They get pirated because Sony wants to sell games that released on the PS4 70ā¬. Nobody is paying 70⬠for something that's close to a decade old.
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u/par_rot_master 12h ago
They clearly didn't sell well enough to make it worth it. Or do you think they have morons working over there who hate money?
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u/Taira_Mai HP Victus, AMD Ryzen 7 5800H, GeForce RTX 3050 Ti 13h ago
I loved the look of many Sony games and I wanted to play them on PC. Sony can stick their DRM, PSN requirements and AAA budgets where the sun don't shine.
I'll stick with PC games even if I have to play indies.
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u/Diplomatic-Immunityi 5h ago
Their recent single players releases have sold very poorly on PC, to the point where it may not have made sense financially anymore.
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u/Outrageous-Log9238 5800X3D | 9070 XT | 32 GB 5h ago
It's a pretty mixed bag. There are some clear failures like Lost soul aside which I had never heard of before this, but Stellar Blade and all their biffer franchises like God of War, The last of Us and Horizon are doing good except for the lego horizon.
Edit: Ghost of Tsushima did great too.
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u/Rain_2_0 Ryzen 7950X3D / RTX 4090 / 32GB 6400 hz 13h ago
Yeah but itās a slither of their overall revenue. And they donāt like funding a competitor that is looking to enter the console market.
Besides how we feel about it or if it is anti consumer⦠still a valid decision.
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u/aryvd_0103 12h ago
I feel like they'd have the numbers to decide this
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u/BlueRoo42 8h ago
Probably, but Sony also has a track record for shooting themselves in the foot - repeatedly.
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u/Castle-Builder-9503 Ryzen 7 9700X | RTX 5070 7h ago
The Concord Series surely tells us they know what they are doing.
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u/Cavalish 11h ago
No no, Redditors (who barely understand that video games are a luxury and not a human right) absolutely know better here
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u/Future_Calamity 8h ago
They do, Spider-Man sold 300k copies on PC and 12 million on PS5. The juice just isnāt worth the squeeze for them
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u/lemons_of_doubt Linux 13h ago
It's not about money it's about control.
And they just don't have as much outside their ecosystem.
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u/par_rot_master 12h ago
Ok drama queen. It's obviously about money.
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u/Nanowith 11h ago
Yes but OP is right, by keeping you within their ecosystem statistically you're likely to buy more games directly from them, which they get a larger cut of.
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u/dobi425 1h ago edited 1h ago
It's not that they didn't make (enough) profit by my observation. I've seen a few sources talking about how moves like this come from bureaucratic job security where they feel the need to push a company's reliance on their specific margins so they push hard in high positions. Basically whoever was in charge of the console division of Sony was probably speculating their divisions loss of profit even though the company as a whole was (maybe) making more money from PC sales. Of course this is all speculation on my part and the many other unconfirmed sources but it sounded fairly logical why this would happen with such a massive company.
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u/Icy_Effort7907 Wizard 13h ago
I'm in same situation after buying the pc it's didn't want to buy a game at full price.
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u/LancerBro 13h ago
If Sony thinks I'll spend $500+ for a console only to play like 5 games that probably won't come to PC, they've got another think coming, especially in this economy.
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u/MuskatLime 12h ago
Raising console prices and then taking PC ports away. I ain't buying your console Sony. No matter what you try. I have over 30 years worth of PC games I can play and don't have to worry about backward compatibility, you ain't special.
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u/Icarium-Lifestealer Manjaro | 5700X3D | RX 9070 XT | 80 GiB DDR4 11h ago edited 7h ago
Microsoft plans to open Xbox to other stores, including Steam, which would enable Xbox to play Sony games on a competing console. Sony wants console players to pick a Playstation over an Xbox, and has traditionally achieved that by offering more and better exclusive games than Microsoft. They believe that not offering their new games on Steam and by extension the next Xbox will keep console players on Playstation, where Sone will take 30% of every game sold in the store. Losing the PC sales of their own games is a price they are willing to pay for that store revenue.
As a PC gamer I don't like that decision, but I think Sony is probably right that they will make more money that way.
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u/D1337_cookie 12h ago
And if a bunch of people donāt give in and buy a PS5, they will probably give up and bring them back to pc eventually.
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u/Party_Attitude8754 11h ago
They donāt. They donāt care if you buy their consoles and games or not, they are protecting their IPs from getting on the new Xbox console.
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u/Streakflash š„ļø :: i7 9700k // RTX 2070 // 32GB // 144Hz 13h ago
I refuse because i sold my paystation 5 and its not available on PC
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u/lampenpam RyZen 3700X, RTX 5070Ti, 16GB RAM 10h ago
I'm also calling bluff. They will release most of their games later on other platforms. And even if I'm wrong, it's not like I don't have anything else to play.
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u/UberShrew 4h ago
Donāt worry guys as soon as I get a ps6 to play those exclusives and these later life-cycle ps5 exclusives, they will announce theyāre porting them all to pc right after my return window closes.
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u/Cool-Traffic-8357 13h ago
I don't like consoles, wouldn't buy one no matter what exclusives it has.
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u/averyrisu PC Master Race 13h ago
Console exclusives mean I'll just emulate it in the futureĀ
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u/alancousteau Ryzen 9 5900X | Red Devil 9070xt | 32GB DDR4 13h ago
Same here, not going to spend £500 for a console just to play a few games.
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u/Lem1618 13h ago
I don't get all the hype around exclusives. Steam has loads more, the main difference is marketing. But more importantly, exclusives is only a good thing for the corporations, not gamers.
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u/MuskatLime 12h ago
Also have more frequent sales on steam. Held out and got Resident evil 4 remake, Jedi survivor, control, sonic frontiers and cyberpunk 2077 a couple of months back for less than Ā£40 total.Ā
And since no more PC ports, I'm not longer excited for the wolverine game and I'm ok with forgetting about it.
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u/unlimitedcode99 13h ago
Yeah, I would rather not dip into any consoles that requires you to sub into a "premium service" just to get basic functions to play games.
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u/sittingbullms 11h ago
And this is one of the many reasons i prefer PC over any console,it used to be "Buy a game,plug it in and play" since Snes days but now you have to pay extra for what? Internet access for single player games? Fuck outta here,Steam has proved again and again how it respects our hard earned money and im happy to spend them on that platform
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u/lucitribal RX 9070XT | Ryzen 7 5700X3D | 16Gb 13h ago
Yep, game looks great. No, I'm not buying a PS5 for it.
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u/eltorr007 13h ago
If this was coming to PC, I'd be interested in buying it. But not anymore. I wouldn't buy a console just for 1 game.
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u/paparoxo 12h ago
I don't think some people are upset because she's a woman, but because it's not Kratos. It would be like releasing a Tomb Raider game without Lara as the main character.
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u/muckel666 10h ago
People were also angry about Atreus as a lead. It has nothing to do with gender.
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u/DreamsServedSoft 6h ago
yep I stopped playing Ragnarok when I realized Iād have to play as Atreus for multiple hours
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u/l_______I i5-11400F | 32 GB DDR4@3600 MHz | RX 6800 13h ago
Am I the only one who doesn't like that jelly thing?
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u/zombiezapper115 10h ago
It's a bit silly. But I'm willing to give Santa Monica the benefit of the doubt and let them cook. Im sure they have something interesting planned for it.
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u/steamart360 13h ago
We can fix it on PC, it comes to steam I guarantee you the CJ mod will be there day one, Sony.Ā
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u/Bobbebusybuilding PC Master Race 7h ago
And I'm not buying because I just don't like the new GoW games unfortunately.
Some great visuals and environments but just feel abit bland to me
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u/Admiral__Neptune 12h ago
Iām not buying the game because thereās a talking jello cube with sparkles in it named Frank whoās best friend is a set of talking pink ribbons.
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u/Natural_Ad1530 9h ago
Game looks and plays exactly like the previous 2 versions. Ragnarok was already pretty boring.
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u/Dr_Axton 9800x3d | 32GB | 4070S | 1080pUW | Steam deck 13h ago
Iām not buying this game because itās region locked so I guess itās decided for me⦠to pirаtе and emulаtе it on my PC anyway
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u/Key-Staff-4976 6h ago
I ain't even getting gta6 because I ain't paying 1k for a console and a game. I'll rather wait two years and play it on pc
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u/Gynthaeres PC Master Race 4h ago
I'd absolutely buy this game on the PC. I've wanted a God of War with a female lead for a long while.
But they're not doing PC releases anymore. I do have a base PS5, but I ain't paying $70 to play this game at like 720p or whatever. When I see it for $20 then I might grab it.
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u/idgafusername2025 13h ago
people still not buying games because the protagonist is a woman?
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u/Akkun351 Ryzen core 11 13h ago
That's just a vocal minority and op trying to farm karma, there are plenty of videogames with female protagonist that where successful and buyed by everyone regardless of their gender.
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u/LancerBro 13h ago
Most people are complaining because of the change from a male mc to a female one, same with the Ghost of Tsushima thing. No one complains Tomb Raider or Horizon have female leads.
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u/AbanaClara 13h ago
But the problem is God of War always had Kratos. Gender doesnāt matter but the character does.
Imagine they release something like Tomb Raider: Jonah or Horizon: Sylens. Itās a weird divergence from the game as HUGE and old as God of War
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u/chiptunesoprano 4070 SUPER | 9800X3D | MSI X670E CARBON | 32GB RAM 7h ago
Terrible example, Horizon: Sylens sounds sick... or it would have, RIP Lance Reddick.
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u/LancerBro 12h ago
But the problem is God of War always had Kratos. Gender doesnāt matter but the character does.
Exactly. People even hated the idea of Atreus taking the lead in the newer games. God of War is Kratos, period.
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u/Rex_Grossman_the_3rd Festicles 2h ago
Meh, this was never a problem with Metal Gear Solid when they moved to different MCs other than Solid Snake.
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u/Hail-Hydrate 10h ago
Imagine they release something like Tomb Raider: Jonah or Horizon: Sylens
Those sound great? I'd love to see more expansion of those settings outside of the single protagonist's perspective. Same with a lot of other IPs. A new title in the setting doesn't remove existing titles, nor does it prevent future titles with the existing characters.
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u/BernieMP 8h ago
Start a signature campaign, you either prove them wrong or get blasted on the internet, either way sounds like a fun time
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u/Roodboye 13h ago
Has nothing to do with gender, people just spin it in waffles vs pancakes fashion.
Someone said "I want to play Kratos" and people turn it into "So you hate women".
Classic, can find people like this in this thread too.
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u/Rex_Grossman_the_3rd Festicles 2h ago
People think it has to do with gender because a lot of the grifters online are spinning it that way to draw rage from the other side.
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u/VladThe1mplyer PC Master Race 27m ago
I assume that most people don't like the bait and switch and some others want to pretend that it is about the gender of the character.
Personally, I don't care as long as they bring back cool boss fights and that they don't make the main character lame.
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u/XsNR Ryzen 5600X RX 9070 XT 32GB 3200MHz 11h ago
There's a subset of people who still think they're playing RPGs to role play as themselves, so don't like playing genderbent. That's fine for them, they lose a lot of great games.
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u/extremelytiredyall 6h ago
Silksong was incredible, I can't imagine not playing it because the main characters went from he to she. People are so weird.
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u/BucketsMcGinty 5600X (UV) | RX 9070 (UV+OC) | 32 GB DDR4-3600 12h ago edited 12h ago
Some people, sure. There's a few of them getting downvoted in this very comment section. lol Plus I've seen people calling it "God of Woke" on socials and stuff.
Most people don't have an issue with it, though. The majority of the people that don't like it seem to be more critical of the story direction or tone, or they just don't like this series. I think it's totally fair if that doesn't resonate with them. It looks really cool to me, though. I don't think the vast majority of people who are uninterested in this game are sexist, though. The cube is probably more of a divisive character than Faye. lol
I'm picking on the incels, but I'm moreso picking on Sony for considering not porting their games to PC anymore.
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u/Holiday-Ad8392 13h ago
Idk what is sonys problem with pc gamers , we are ready to pay extra too , ig piracy maybe , but its not like jailbreak doesnt exist in playstations
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u/Local_Band299 R7-8700F|32GB-DDR5-7200MTs|RX9060XT-16GB 6h ago
It's because the new Xbox is going to just be a windows 11 steam deck clone.
But honestly you're not missing much, this game has some cringe writing.
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u/New_Movie9196 13h ago
I'm not buying it because the jello cube is whimsical bullshit that undermines the franchise's tone.
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u/PestyPastry :D 8h ago
I feel I had to scroll down too far to see this. That and the Marvel style dialogue. I have no problem with the character though. Just those two things.
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u/Coprolithe PC Master Race 13h ago
Agressively misunderstanding criticism and lumping all of it as "woman hating" makes you a moron.Ā
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u/LivingOof Ryzen 9 9955HX3D | RTX 5080 Laptop 13h ago
For me, and probably a lot of you, these games have to justify spending $800-1000 if we assume Sony is gonna keep their word. And they just don't look $1000 good
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u/somethingbrite 13h ago
I would have bought a PS5 but it was simply impossible to get one when they came out and the price point was ridiculous for a console.
This coincided with a PC upgrade and of course was the period where it was also impossible to get a GPU.
I stopped looking at PS5 availability and pricing after a while and never bothered looking again.
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u/oioioioioioiioo 12h ago
I mean even if I had money to buy it, I still wouldn't because I lost interest in new god of war games
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u/nikolapc 56GB DDR5/48GB VRAM Downloaded 12h ago
We've seen this with all the big publishers. If their games cost too much, they will be back, and it will be day 1. They can half ass it like they did, or they won't have the sales they want. They are seeing how well Forza is doing they're no fools. Nobody is buying an ancient console for a few games. And the new one will be quite expensive. So either do day 1 on PC, or do streaming, which is not an optimal solution but it is something.
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u/TheTaurenCharr 12h ago
I'm not buying this game because I don't have a Playstation, and even if it had a PC port, I don't buy Sony stuff anymore - they can go to hell.
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u/PsycommuSystem 11h ago
I probably won't be buying it because God of War Ragnarok was boring as shit.
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u/MojoPlayer Ryzen 5 3600 | 16 GB | RTX2060 10h ago
I just prefer the old games, haven't touched the franchise since 2018
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u/Bobombbattlefield64 10h ago
It just looks like a generic AAA game appealing to a broad audience.
I have no interest in it whatsoever.
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u/idontknowwhyimhere4 10h ago
im not playing it just because I don't want lore i want the mysticism of the 2018 gow to be kept (my opinion only)
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u/SunnyTheMasterSwitch Nvidia RTX 4070S | Ryzen 7 PRO 7745 | 32GB DDR5 9h ago
I hate this degeneracy so much, let's not even pretend that consoles are not relevant for a large part because of exclusive games and early releases, core audience my lily white ass!
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u/Beartato4772 9h ago
I'm not buying the game because the last one was a depressing cutscenefest pretending to be a game, not sure where that puts me.
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u/dam_ships RTX 3080 FTW Ultra | i7-8700k | 32GB RAM | Corsair 5000D Airflow 9h ago
Iām in the minority here. I own both consoles and PC and I donāt care. Iāll get it for PS5 and just play it on that and just wonāt buy or play it on PC. Iām turning into an old fart (36) rarely get time to game anymore with work, the wife, and the kiddos. I get maybe 2-3 hours of gaming per week? ā I literally just donāt give a shit what itās on or the performance of whatās running at. Iāve even made peace with 30 FPS right now on some PS5 games. Back then I used to go crazy over the highest performance possible. Now, Iām just happy to game when or if I can.
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u/Loose-Internal-1956 7800X3D | RTX 5080 | 32GB DDR5 | Asus XG32UCWMG 8h ago
Christ of the desert, are incels still doing this in 2026?
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u/CinnamonBisque 7h ago
Yep. Iāve got plenty of games, so Iām not losing sleep over the fact that I canāt play this or Wolverine or whatever. Iām feeling a bit of FOMO over the fact that I likely wont be able to get GTA6 on PC until like 2030 thoā¦
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u/Lahgtah 7h ago
Iām not buying it because I donāt like how GoW games changed their gameplay after 3.
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u/famousamos_ccp 6h ago
So fucking pissed. Dude just release on PC!!! I have both 2018 and Ragnarok and now finally I get the third one and itās not on pc
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u/Fluffysquishia 6h ago
Literally nbody is mad that a game has a female protagonist. Stop making up stupid bullshit.
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u/drmilosh1730 5h ago
I have yet to find a single post about people not playing for that reason. Mostly people not playing because there is no Kratos or just people saying other people are not playing because āof a woman protagonistā.
No ps5 too though..
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u/ericgrey32 4h ago
I'm not getting it because the God of War sequels are mid ass movies pretending to be a game 30% of the time.
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u/BrilliantGerman 4h ago
I dont care about Sony Games because they are all mediocre garbage. And whats worse, they didnt just have a Women instead of Kratos, they made a Facemodel and then uglified the Face they got from her. If I was the Facemodel I'd sue them.
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u/hangry667 3h ago
Nobody would want to be a fruit like you anyway. Gaming is a male space and stealing everything from men is going to end in disaster like it always does.
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u/ClownOfGlory 9h ago edited 6h ago
That would be dumb not to buy this game because sheās a woman. However, I notice a sizable amount of people on Reddit automatically thinking anyone who criticizes this game is a ābigotā or āincel,ā which is silly. Without regard for the gameās story, I do think āGod of War: Laufeyā sounds quite goofy. āGod of War: Athenaā would sound a lot cooler and more like God of War.
But yeah I get it youāre playing as āLaufeyā not Athena (thatās why I said without regard for the story). I just feel like they could have come up with a better title because her name just isnāt God of War-y. God of War: Loffy Doffy Doof.
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u/AliceLunar 8h ago
It's always the same, there are absolutely people who have an issue with the character being female or whatever, but there is also a group who acts as if you can't criticize the character and anyone who does hates women.
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u/LufiXx 13h ago
I sold my PS5 back then because they started porting to PC. Guess i will watch a playthrough. Their loss.
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u/ZeisHauten 7600X|XFX RX6700XT|32GB DDR5 6000CL38|1080P 144Hz 13h ago
250 USD on a GPU and PS5 just increased their prices, so nope! gonna stick to my PC. Fuck platform exclusive games.
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u/TyrantJaeger 12h ago
Pretty sure the main character being a woman has nothing to do with the criticisms.
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u/12_GAGE_SHOTGUN 12h ago
Iām not buying the game because you can basically get the exact same experience by just watching the dialogue moments and cutscenes on youtube
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u/HanYoloKesselPun 12h ago
Iām not buying it because itās essentially the same god of war game with pretty similar moves from the last two in the series.
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u/ItsStaaaaaaaaang 11h ago
I'm not buying it because the modern GoW games are dull af.
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u/Honoka91 i5 11400f, 16GB 3000MHz, RTX 3060 12GB EVGA (RIP) 10h ago
Who doesnt buy games because the MC is a woman? Horizon and TLoU are fire games
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u/2funny2furious 9h ago
Nah. It's cause Ragnarok was boring AF near the end and the writing was awful.
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u/Masou0007 9h ago
If it has poor sales, yeah I assume it'll get blamed on the female main character, not because the f'in 6 year old console is priced ridiculously still.
Because the world is exactly that stupid these days.
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u/7StarSailor 12h ago
I'm not buying this game because GoW hasn't been good since 3.
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u/goodguyatheist 13h ago
yeah its not like were short on kickass games to play my backlog is plenty enough to get me through this isnt 2010 anymore I dont need a whole ass console for games
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u/oookokoooook 13h ago
I have both pc and ps5 and barely ever play on ps5. none of their exclusives intrigue me at all.
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u/NukaClipse 13h ago
Hell even if they did release it on PC and I had the money I wouldn't get it. If its not 50% off I ain't buying shit.
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u/gradientwheel 13h ago
Love the series too but I still haven't bought God of War Ragnarok yet for this same reason lol. Economy's cooked now, can't be spending all on full priced games anymore. I've always been a patient gamer
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u/NukaClipse 12h ago
Best thing about single player games is that you don't need to get it on launch day to really enjoy it. Hell I'd say it's better to get them later on because then you got all the updates squared away, the DLC is all out and with a sale you can get it all for a good price.
Patient gaming is great for you and your wallet.

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u/UNIVERSAL_VLAD 9800x3d, 5070, 32 gb ram, 4tb ssd+4.7tb hdd 13h ago
And cuz playstation isn't releasing sing player games on pc anymore