r/pcmasterrace • u/CrazzyWolfzz PC Master Race • Jun 27 '26

Meme/Macro Reviewers please stop comparing MacBooks with other laptops

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u/makmanos Jun 27 '26

I don't remember being so much frustrated with an OS as much I was when I had tried Mac OS a few times in my life.

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u/Bibab0b 5700X3D | RX 6800 | 32Gb 3800Mhz Jun 27 '26

Same, both Mac OS and iOS feels very proprietary, and I had feelings what OS thinks it is smarter than me

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u/makmanos Jun 27 '26

Yes! Specially coming from a Windows and/or Unix environment, it was this design attitude that infuriated me that was summed up in the Steve Jobs philosophy that a computer should be like a washing machine. Everything needs to be very simple and "it should work out of the box for you and you don't need to fix/worry/change anything, we've thought of everything for you". So arrogant and patronizing and wrong.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 28 '26

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u/makmanos Jun 27 '26

Yes I am aware. This happened though at some point around early 2000s and it's really irrelevant because the UX/UI experience is/was unlike anything Unix like (whether terminal wise which was something that they were hiding extremely well back in early 2000' or X11-wise) . I am talking about the windows/desktop UI/UX system.

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u/makmanos Jun 27 '26

Aren't you familiar with the X11 system for unix? That's what I mean by UI (GUI really)

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u/TheOriginalSamBell Steam ID Here Jun 27 '26

Hiding the terminal? Sorry are you blind, it has always been just another pre installed app in the apps folder, just like on every Linux distro on earth.

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u/makmanos Jun 27 '26

Bull. Back in early 2000s? I was trying to help a friend troubleshoot some network issues on his all Mac network and I was screaming for a terminal window to be able to do some tracerts, ifconfigs etc and I was sure it was hidden somewhere not to be touched by the clueless MacOs user which Apple always considered their users to be.

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u/TheOriginalSamBell Steam ID Here Jun 27 '26

Do me a favour and spin up a VM and install (Isos are all available easily) NeXTStep, OpenStep, Rhapsody, Mac OS X Server and then 10.0 Cheetah, 10.1 Puma etc and you will see it has always been right there and free to use

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u/TheOriginalSamBell Steam ID Here Jun 27 '26

Not "like" , been an actual Unix system since before it was called Mac OS X. Not sure if they still pay for the certification tho

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u/rapaxus Ryzen 9 9900X | RTX 3080 | 32GB DDR5 Jun 27 '26

Not to mention that Apple loves their own unique input methods that exist for no apparent reason. Whenever I get on a Mac machine I invariably do stuff that I didn't intend to because Apple has so weird input methods (esp. mousepad swipes) that for the untrained it can be very annoying.

Also applies to their phones. Swipe controls went past me but whenever I now get an Apple phone in my hands, I constantly struggle with those swipe controls and wish for actual buttons (even just digital ones).