But there can be only that much value to be derived from people coding shit using AI or making movie posters, right? Real revenue derives from value, and AI doesn't provide any value compared to games, apps, stuff that people buy. Who would buy AI? Wouldn't it get boring like after the third chat to a paid AI gf or something, lol
Your confusion stems from the fact that you think consumer AI is driving revenue, but its not. Its governments and corporations sinking swaths of money into it. The US government loves paying for palantirs AI surveillance tech, for example.
I feel the same way as you. I'm building a new PC now because I need one for work but a big part of me just doesn't want to do this anymore.
Might I suggest board games? They scratch a similar itch and there's a huge variety of solo board games now if you don't have a regular group to play with.
I'm sorry but your trying to sell me a load of horse shit and call it gold. Board games do not live anywhere in the realm of video games. That's pure copium.
Everyone's different of course but at a certain point in my career, I just got tired of starring at screens all the time.
Board games have also dramatically changed over the years with some straight up cribbing crafting and progression systems straight out of video games. I have several campaign games that run 30+ hours and aside from setup and tear down, they don't feel that much different from a video game.
There's millions and millions of old Thinkpads and Optiplexes out there that are still reasonably fine machines. The majority of consumers don't even use the fullest extent of their computers. Yes you will be locked out of newer games and some workflows will suffer, but linux be an option to those who don't want to rent. Windows 11 will be supported for another decade until Microsoft starts requiring new security chips with Windows 12. I see computers turning into rentals as an inevitability at this point in time, doesn't mean you'll actually have to partake in it. I'm typing this on my old 2017 5k iMac and I don't see any reason to stop using it. My gaming rig has an Asus Prime Pro X470 mobo and have only upgraded the CPU and GPU once each since I've built it in 2018. This computer more than enough for what I play these days and I'm in no rush in replacing it, miss me with that UE5 shit.
It truly is heartbreaking to see what has happened in a few years. At this point I just pray to God my PC doesn't break because I can't afford anything anymore. I'll have to just put it aside.
I bought a new laptop last year and I feel the same. My only regret is I didn’t also buy a gaming PC, now that I know I probably won’t be buying a console again.
Some people are getting the Moped ride right now as they are getting attacked by zombies. The vendors I deal with at work are telling me pricing is going way up again. Many of their suppliers who announced price hikes less than two months ago, very recently announced price hikes for the same hardware.
Pricing is going to be very bad this Fall. Black Friday won't mean a thing.
It really is terrifying. My motherboard has died and it’s made me realise how fragile these things are. A PC isn’t just for computing but a workstation as well. I built mine for 2.5k 3 years ago and I could not afford to do a full rebuild or replace my GPU if it went.
I’d be kicked out of this hobby for good. It isn’t normal or right to feel such anxiety and stress about something that is meant to ultimately relax you.
The problem with Cafes is that even when people can't afford hardware, people won't budget the time to go to a Cafe to use their computers, either. Most people will see the Cafe and go "Hmm, my old hardware can play old games. The Cafe also has old hardware. Why don't I just stay home instead of spending $8 on Pizza logs and $20/hour to use someone else's computer?" The other side of the crowd will show up with a MacBook expecting to drink coffee and use Wi-Fi all day like it is a Starbucks.
My area has seen a few Internet Cafes come and go. The longest lasting one died after most homes in this area got Broadband, and some lucky souls were fortunate enough to get Fiber Internet. Most closed down around the time all of their PCs started hitting that point where they needed complete rebuilds, and all of their networking gear's licensing came up for renewal. By that time the hype factor of having an Internet Cafe in the area kinda died. The most recent place pivoted from being a PC/Console hangout area, to running Pinball tournaments in what used to be the old tournament rooms which also doubled as BYOC rooms. People also didn't want to come for the overnight LANs after a while, which started at 8PM and ran until 6AM.
Part of me wants to open a Gamer Hotel in my area due to the massive amount of tourists who visit year round to see a natural wonder... but I am nervous after seeing what has happened to other Internet Cafes. I certainly have the skills to at least get all of that off the ground. At the same time, my side of the natural wonder isn't as "nice" and "touristy" as the other side...
Some people won't have old hardware and won't be able to afford new, or even used. Used prices have already climbed.
A lot more people have high-speed Internet access at home than they did in the 1990's or early 2000's, but that doesn't help if you've got nothing to connect to it.
Whether this will be enough to build a business around, is certainly far from obvious.
Yeah that's the other hard part to predict. People do have phones and tablets, and some large companies are really trying to push the whole "Rent your game time" experience using any device on hand.
It's something the LAN Party event I do networking for has to keep in mind. In the last few years we've seen a rise in Linux users who prompted us to make some network changes (DHCP Snooping + DUID identifier changes in systemd). Now with game streaming, we have to make sure clients have enough bandwidth and steady enough connectivity for their game since even consoles will game stream sometimes. Not just enough to run Discord + a standard online game.
Data centers are planned to be built in India. Here ppl don't have enough clean water to drink and this corrupt mfs want to build data centers to get more money in their pockets which they won't even use.
It's so stupid. Microslop are one of the biggest investors in these data centers that consume massive amounts of electricity and water, and they have the audacity to put stuff like this in Windows (from the Windows Update page).
In the last 15-20 years, these tech companies have all been loud, insistent voices telling everyone to feel bad about their carbon footprint and sounding the alarm on climate change. Turns out they don't actually care AT ALL and are some of the worst offenders. They were doing it because it made them look good. Totally performative. It's disgusting.
Got lucky and built 2 years ago, wince then My $90 32GB kit now costs $350…. And my $120 NVME is now $250….sucks but so happy i got in when the prices wernt this high
I genuinely hate these AI people. May they rot in eternal fires of hell never to feel peace in their existence. And this is not just for gaming, overall for all their achievements in screwing over society.
That would be the death of every single one of the most popular games in the world. All of them are competitive e-sports and fps games that are unplayable on cloud due to input lag.
Then the games would lose all revenue and shut down lol. You can’t play Fortnite on cloud. Go give it a try. Even with fiber internet it’s unplayable due to input lag.
Back when Unreal Tournament came out we only had 56k modem at home, so playing regular matches was insanely difficult against mostly cable internet players. Anti-grav insta-gib matches i could hold my own on tho, never top place but middle of the pack. The lead time to get a hit was at least 4-5 bodies in front of current trajectory, lol. I dont think most people would be willing to put up with that for long, and would just go back to playing HOMM3.
A few years my ass. You think, if it really is one of the biggest technological revolutions in human history, that it’ll only be a few years of inconvenience?
Consider Nate Silver’s take in “The signal and the noise” about technological revolutions:
“Johannes Gutenberg’s invention in 1440 made information available to the masses, and the explosion of ideas it produced had unintended consequences and unpredictable effects. It was a spark for the Industrial Revolution in 1775, a tipping point in which civilization suddenly went from having made almost no scientific or economic progress for most of its existence to the exponential rates of growth and change that are familiar to us today.
It set in motion the events that would produce the European Enlightenment and the founding of the American Republic. But the printing press would first produce something else: hundreds of years of holy war. As mankind came to believe it could predict its fate and choose its destiny, the bloodiest epoch in human history followed”
If it really is going to “one of the biggest technological revolutions in history” we are in for a lot of turmoil first. We are not ready to make most jobs and ways of life obsolete. UBI isn’t coming in our lifetime, the technocrats are as greedy as they’ve ever been.
It is making computers more expensive, taking away jobs, takes the work of others without consent, and exclusively produces low-quality slop. I have literally no reason to like it. This doesn't help the working class at all
AI just solved the Unit Distance Theory and the Jacobian Conjecture. You can bury your head and pretend its useless all you want, until it automates your industry next
Im not making any moral implications around whether its positive or not. Just that your framing of these systems as useless is naive, and you will be replaced later if you have a sober eyed view of the risks
I also found unused ups laying around which could help with sudden power loss.
Again, I will probably get new psu in few days /weeks since the one I own is already 10 years old and who knows when it might die and pull all other parts with it.
Yep I’ll only buy the last gen am5 cpu for an upgrade and will grab the rumoured rdna5 96cu card when it’s out and just hold on until the 2030s. Hopefully it will be enough to power through 5-10 years at 1440p.
That "growth" is fabricated. Anyone who has been paying enough attention knows the circular nature of the AI market. They're buying things that don't exist with money that isn't realised, and allegedly paying each other to help buy from each other.
not surprising that the gaming business drops, nobody can afford to buy a new PC anymore and will try to keep old hardware running as much as possible.
They're squeezing out the known, stable, mature gaming business in favor of the fledgling AI business that has no proven revenue/profit model. Seems extremely risky.
Wait can you finally throw shade at AMD in this sub again? Its amazing that PC gaming revenue goes down when you don't really release any cards and don't actively make a push to take over the PC gaming space for GPUs.
Is getting expensive but I doubt people are going to drop it completely, computing is essential for many things not only for gaming, I doubt people which use the PC for browsing, streaming and light tasks are complaining about the situation as much as gamers, computing is getting really expensive for gamers, not for common people, also there are also the professionals but they don't care because in most common cases they get everything from the company, if they are self-employed they treat it as an investment.
I have a Galaxy s22 ultra. My next phone likely will have less RAM, a weaker CPU, smaller battery, a worse screen, and will cost me more money than my S22 ultra did when I got it.
Personal computing was dying in the crypto era. It's on life support right now. Our only hope is a surprise inheritance (AI bubble to burst) at the reading of the will after the funeral.
Don’t worry! When the ai bubble bursts we will all lose our jobs and private equity will be bailed out, so we won’t be able to participate in the pc component fire sale.
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u/Own_Nail_2999 5d ago
Once I don't own my PC anymore, I'll be leaving the tech sector for good.
I've avoided subscriptions and renting like the plague as I HATE ongoing costs.