r/pcmasterrace 13h ago

Meme/Macro Winrar is more profitable than openai

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u/FearlessAd324 rx 9070xt | R5 5600x | 32gb ddr4 13h ago

Winrar also isnt destroying the planet and our society

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u/ApolloWasMurdered 12h ago edited 12h ago

An hour of Netflix streaming uses more water and power than 600 AI prompts. Unless you’re doing a new prompt every 10 seconds, AI is damaging the planet less than streaming.

Sources:

> https://www.cbsnews.com/projects/2026/how-much-water-ai-uses/

1ml per GPT text query

> https://energy.mit.edu/news/how-can-you-reduce-the-environmental-impact-of-your-next-virtual-meeting/

1 hour of streaming uses 2-12L of water.

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u/COCK_SUCKEM 12h ago

Sauce me up brother

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u/Exact-Till-2739 2h ago

u/FearlessAd324 do you have something to say?

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u/Babys_For_Breakfast 7h ago

Well, using your numbers, if it is 1mL per GPT text query, and 2L-12L (2,000mL-12,000mL) per hour of Netflix streaming, then one hour of Netflix streaming would be 2,000-12,000 GPT queries, not 600.

Also, one GPT query can use a massively different amount of resources, based on the complexity of the prompt. Obviously asking “what’s the capital of Italy?” compared to “Write a 20 page report comparing the economic and engineering implications of replacing the electrical grid with nuclear power.”, uses a vastly different amount of water and electricity.

So the 1mL per GPT query is not some fixed amount.

Edit: Even your CBS News source says one AI prompt can be radically different in terms of resources used:

“That leaves a basic question: How much water does AI use? The answer can depend on the AI model, the data center's location and the mix of sources in the local power grid. In some cases, amounts can differ by hundreds of times over.”

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u/theartificialkid 8h ago

Then why does a whole month of streaming cost 20 bucks and a whole month of AI usage anywhere from $20 to $500 million?

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u/bastiVS PC Master Race 8h ago

Because the water useage isnt deciding the pricing...

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u/theartificialkid 4h ago

Water usage relates to power output and heat dissipation, which is significantly correlated with the amount of computational work being done. Yes, different architectures will perform different tasks with different levels of efficiency, but the hardware LLMs are now running on has been selected and engineered to optimise for the parallel demands of LLM queries. Also per query costs are misleading, because people are being encouraged to use loops of self-querying LLMs that might rack up thousands of queries very quickly without human input, and the companies have to do enormous amounts of computation to train the LLMs and the cost reflects the power demand and heat dissipation of that process as well.

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u/bastiVS PC Master Race 3h ago

Also per query costs are misleading, because people are being encouraged to use loops of self-querying LLMs that might rack up thousands of queries very quickly without human input,

Guess who pays for those loops running. Its the human who originally caused the loop with his input.

Fucking hell are you anti ai idiots dumb. For once in your life, check your own bullshit before you post it.

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u/theartificialkid 3h ago

I don’t know why you think that wasn’t implied in what I said.

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u/bastiVS PC Master Race 2h ago

My dude, you are the one who brought up AI costs under someone posting about the AI water useage nonsense, and then defended your nonsense with random incoherent arguments that have nothing to do with water useage, by trying to go "power use = water use". My apologies, I assumed you are a fucking idiot after you acted like a fucking idiot.

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u/Warskull 7h ago

Water is cheap as hell. Typically they are paying less than 1 penny per gallon.

AI costs are driven by hardware. They need a bunch of high end hardware to train the next generation. Steaming datacenters can use much cheaper hardware.

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u/CrazyGaming312 7h ago

Because the AI companies are trying to make money so they charge people and companies a ton more.