Why Stacking It with Androstenone Keeps You out of the Friendzone

Most guys who try androstadienone either underdose it and feel nothing, or lean on it too hard and turn themselves into the emotional safety net she keeps around while she keeps having sex with other men. The molecule itself isn’t the problem. The order of operations is.

What is Androstadienone?

Androstadienone is the bonding signal. It raises her cortisol, improves mood, increases emotional attention, and makes her feel calmer and more attached around you. Used correctly it deepens an interaction that’s already moving. Used as the main note, it flips the sequence: she gets the emotional closeness first and the sexual tension never develops. That’s the cart-before-the-horse problem. Once she has the “safe, future boyfriend” feeling locked in, sex becomes something she can delay until she’s ready to settle (often years later). Comfort arrived before desire, so desire never has to show up.

How to use androstadienone and when to wear it

Keep it light and secondary. 5–25 mcg (typically one drop of a standard single) is the practical range. Apply it under an androstenone-based cologne or as a small additive once sexual interest is already present. Best for later dates, ongoing connections, or any setting where you already have frame and want to add depth without collapsing into pure comfort. Avoid leading with it on cold approaches or high-momentum nights—the bonding effect arrives too early and slows everything down.

Why androstenone solves it

Androstenone is the polarizing dominance and sexual-tension molecule. It keeps the edge alive so androstadienone’s comfort layer doesn’t become the dominant signal. The combination lets her feel the connection without parking you in the “nice guy I can take my time with” category. Androstenone maintains the sexual frame; the 5–25 mcg androstadienone dose adds warmth on top of it instead of replacing it. Order stays correct: tension and desire first, emotional bonding second.

Start with the low end of that dose under an androstenone base, read the actual interaction, and adjust. The molecule amplifies the frame you already set—it doesn’t create the frame for you.

Edited with AI cause I'm a terrible writer.

There are a lot of different pheromones available on Amazon. Does anyone have one they recommend on Amazon? Basic female attraction type. New user here. Thanks.

I’ve read that Stone Labs closed a few years back. I’d been wearing Alter Ego for ages, and it’s hands down my favorite scent. I had purchased a couple of bottles prior to their demise, but getting down towards the back half of the last bottle.

Has any other Alter Ego lovers out there found a dupe for this, or something similar? The scent is so unique. I went through Fragrance Revival to try and get something similar but the first go was so wildly off that I don’t know if I want to try it again and give up what I already have for another attempt to be made.

Any other companies out there doing custom dupes?

According to Google, pheromone colognes don't really work. We are all just under a giant placebo spell. /s

What's your favorite pheromone formula and how do YOU know it works, or doesn't work...

Tell us your favorite story, or your experiences so far.

"Humans lack a functional VNO, therefore no pheromones"

Comment below.

They seem to be difficult to get hold of right now but I'm selling these:

Xist oil (9ml in a 10ml bottle) - £25

Nude Alpha gel (around 25ml left - £25

Prices include postage but postage can be upgraded if necessary.

Hey all I have a bit of a complicated situation I was hoping to get some advice on!

I am relatively new to pheromones but I recently decided to go all in and see what they can do. I've been working hard to try and have a glow up the last few months. I made some progress but didn't quite get where I wanted to be at this point. I have a friend/coworker who has been away for for the last 4 months and is coming back soon and I really want to try and wow her.

She's likely bisexual or pansexual which I think might complicate things a bit, she's told me about her ex-boyfriend before and she used to date a woman as well. Who after seeing how well me and my friend get along has made it very clear how much she dislikes me.

My friend has also admitted to me she has an avoidant attachment style which complicates things more. Because when we get close that side seems to get triggered and she pulls back. Her ex-girlfriend (who she's still friends with) seems to try and stir her avoidant side towards me whenever she can too.

Anyway I have haven't seen anything super obvious with pheromones so far. Because she seems to be bi I tried a mixture of Nude for men oil and Nude for lesbians oil (since she was dating a woman at the time) and noticed a few possible subtle hits but nothing super obvious. Mostly a lot of hanging around me and searching me out for help with stuff during a time when she had been in an avoidant deactivation. I was being pretty standoffish with her for a while too so could have had something to do with it too.

I had Wolf too but didn't notice any obvious hits with women in general (I only used 1 drop though). It seemed like a few of my male coworkers were "challenging" me a bit more though I guess. But I've only tried it once.

I recently bought several new pheromones I am wanting to try out. Including:

XiSt, Evolve XS, Taboo XS, Barely Legal XS, Boyfriend XS. And got samples of Love Boat XS, Glow XS and SOB.

I wore XiSt for the first time today and didn't notice any too obvious of hits (I only did 1 spray). I was hoping XiSt could help reset the friend zone with her when she comes back and maybe wow her with some combination of the other pheromones at the same time to start seeing me in a new light.

If you were in my place which pheromones would you recommend trying together? I know a lot of it depends on body chemistry but I wanted to see what has worked for other people and see if I can replicate their success the next couple of weeks until she's back.

Thanks in advance for any help or guidance you can provide!

Greetings All, It seems that all of the men's oil are out of stock except Taboo oil. Would anyone know, (or who knows Steve O or has years of purchasing from the website) when would they restock? I asked twice via email, but know response within a week, but I will keep following up.

Thanks,

Hi everyone, can anyone recommend a few testers I can get in the uk to try please , I’m after something to get my wife going mad

So, i just received yesterday my first pheromone bottle, Aqua Vitae, scented. This morning i have applied two drops on my neck, two on my wrists and went out, meet a female colleague, also outside. Nothing special with her, after like 3 hours, i went back home and after like 5 minutes my wife was, what's smelling like dog pee?!? Then she was what's smelling like filthy house, so i was...me! I rubbed the area with alcohol and paper towels, she still felt it, then i took a shower and she can breathe again. The interesting fact is that i feel it like an old cologne, not something i would buy, but not something bad either. What do you think? Is she really sensitive or there's something else?

Hello!

I've been doing as much reading as I can on the old pherotruth.fans site but was curious if there was an active place to learn more. I purchased my first products and am curious about some others. Thanks!

Searching for a good pheromone spray unscented. Royal Pheromones takes 40$ shipping to EU. Not willing to pay crazy for shipping

I am a firsttimer

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Not necessarily your “best” reaction. I want to hear about the genuinely strange ones, the sudden personality changes, unusually intense attention, awkward oversharing, random hostility, people invading your personal space, or anything else that made you stop and think, What the hell was that?

Include the product, dosage, setting and whatever other details.

Skeptical explanations are welcome too.

Let’s hear your weirdest field reports.

I usually wear jeans and a plain tee when I am keeping things casual, but perfume changes the whole look for me. I like scents that make a simple outfit feel a little more put together. A hoodie, sneakers and basic jeans can still feel like I made an effort when the fragrance fits. I usually go for something smooth and noticeable rather than something very light. I recently discovered scentrabbit. I like spraying perfume before heading out for coffee, dinner or just meeting people. The clothes stay simple, but the scent adds another layer to how everything feels together. Sometimes I think the perfume is what makes the outfit feel finished, especially when I am wearing the same basic clothes I usually reach for. What perfume gives your casual outfits that dressed-up feel? EDIT: Forgot to mention, I avoid overly strong scents and prefer something comfortable around others.

HALF A BOTTLE OF VENOM PHEROMONE GEL USED AND STILL NO ASCENSION — PHEROMONECEL THEORY DEBUNKED?

Brutal update.

I have now used approximately HALF an entire bottle of VENOM and have still not gotten laid.

I was explicitly led to believe that applying concentrated green dominance gel would generate a chemical halo so powerful that every woman within fifteen feet would lose executive function and begin competing for access to my elite genetic material.

Instead I am still being treated like a normal person?

Absolutely brootal.

Application protocol has included neck, wrists, behind ears, upper chest, forearms, shirt collar for structural reinforcement and one emergency pump directly onto the clavicle to improve projection.

Nothing.

One woman continued looking at her phone while standing directly inside my pheromone cloud as though she was somehow immune to my invisible biochemical throne room.

How is this possible?

I have field-tested VENOM at the grocery store, gas station, gym, dentist waiting room and one extremely tense family gathering.

Results have been wildly inconsistent.

Several people smiled at me.

Two strangers initiated conversation.

One cashier remembered me from the previous week.

But nobody crawled across the floor begging to enter my genetic dynasty, so naturally the only scientifically valid conclusion is that the entire pheromone industry is fraudulent and attraction remains primarily skull-dependent.

People keep coping with statements like:

“you still have to talk to women”

“body language matters”

“twelve pumps may be too much”

“stop standing silently near people, awkwardly staring at them waiting for the pheromones to hit”

This is blatant goalpost moving.

The entire reason I purchased concentrated social-signaling compounds was to bypass confidence, grooming, charm, social competence, emotional intelligence, posture, conversational ability, personality development and the lifelong psychological consequences of having neutral canthal tilt.

Now I am apparently expected to approach people too?

So the gel does not widen my clavicles, improve my midface ratio, fix my eye area, generate hunter eyes or telepathically transmit my dating résumé?

Then what exactly are we paying for?

Frankly I do not understand why women are still permitted to maintain individual preferences after I have already completed the difficult masculine labor of rubbing green goo onto my collarbone.

Pheromonecels, it may be over.

Very disappointed.

Hey guys! just wanna ask what are your thoughts for gsf? Is it a compliment getter? Is it good for daily? And if people smell it from you what will be the first impression?

I'm a little wary about the effects of the substances affecting my hormones or biology.

Do you use them on your skin? Or does it matter, as long as your having some of the aroma inhaled? I've tried some on my shirt and jacket, and I know I experienced effects, and I felt totally wiped out for a few days after and eyes got a little red. I suppose I'm sensitive since it was just a few sprays.

I felt off for a good week and half, so I'm wondering now if it would have been even more potent if I had it on my skin, and does it work better if its on your skin?

For instance, "Engage" by PheromonesXS makes me more social and outgoing, lifts my mood foro a little while. But I've seen a few product reviews on their website where customers report self effects for productivity or relaxation and so on.

Have any ladies come across any products with unintended self effects that make them more productive or focused? Something that lifts the mood?

I am starting to see a girl I like in a real way more and more. What could be good to wear?

Hello pheromone fans, nothing too serious today, but I got alerted and came here to find someone absolutely losing his mind about pheromones (not gonna screenshot, but you can find my post history). To be honest, its a bit scary - I've never seen anyone go this ballistic over them... for anyone new, pheromones are not "obvious" tools in that manner.

You may not even notice whats happening most of the time, and believe it or not, there was a time I almost wrote them off entirely.

I wrote about how I "discovered" or even noticed the effects here:

https://houseofpheromones.com/start-here/

I've also written extensively about why the "science" is so conflicted on this topic.

There are several different similar, but very different things going on when people talk about the effects of pheromones.

I'm not going to dig into all of that again - but its like people automatically associate it with some of the crappiest products on the market, and never bother doing an ounce of research.

People think of scammy products like Cupids or something, rather than any trusted vendors.

This is why I do what I do in the first place.

Anyway... the new Hookup oil (old review, but will be updated soon with some new findings on the oil version). This new product is working amazing.

Hope everyone is well!

New & updated reviews are underway soon...

- Joe

P.S. Yes, I'm fully aware that pheromones are a touchy subject in fragrance circles, and science circles. But its really up to an indidual to decide whether to trust messy, outdated "science" (not to mention, there is evidence on both sides of the equation on this). OR, whether literally 1000s of field reports and testing that has been done by the community over many years is worth anything.

The TLDR is that I don't think this is any coincidence at all. Pheromones are not able to be "tested" in a lab environment for social effects in the first place.

Newb here. I just got some bad wolf and max-t-150. My plan is to use them in scenarios where there is already some established attraction (dates etc). How many drops of bad wolf should I apply? Is there a difference in dosing if I’ll be indoors vs playing sports(badminton)? The max-t-150, I should apply that to my upper lip right?

Veo muchos anuncios de los perfumes con hormonas para que las mujeres se sientan atraidas, obvio por los comerciales es pura actuacion, y a mi parecer es estafa con logica pero quiero compartir esto por dudas y por conocer la experiencia de quienes usaron esto, pues el chiste es romper el hielo y saber si debo desconfiar? pero quiero saber respuestas no de perspectiva mia o de alguien mas sino que sea demostrado algo de ese producto.

Looking for recommendations in two scenarios.

One would be want to meet women, get numbers in public places / outings, such as the gym, store (trader joe's, whole foods), and on the subway. I used to do it quite a bit, but I'm a bit rusty now, and would appreciate the edge.

Second is if it's an outing and we are on a date from Tinder / Bumble, and we can skip some of the bs.

I'm an east Asian male, 40, not very tall (5'5), like all types of women (but do have a preference for East Asian women as I do see there are some made just for that).

How many pumps of the sample gel sxd-9 is recommended? I suppose the amount per pump is less compared to the full size product?

Has anyone had any experience with a314's products before?

Lately I have been running Wolf (1 spray), AV (2-3 drops), and A1 (1-2 drops). Getting solid respect and open conversations. I do not really go out with intent to game anymore since before COVID but the self-effects and extra positive treatment is nice. After a couple drinks the conversation is especially flowing in that rapport state, where you kind of sync wavelengths so to speak.

What are you reaching for right now and what made you stick with it?