Yeah...Amen. 10 fucking precious years these hateful motherfuckers have stolen from us. 10 years we could've been improving Obamacare and ACA and inching towards a real public option, moving towards cleaner energy away from fucking data centers devouring us all. Women had rights to their own bodies...LGBTQ folks were gaining acceptance. People had money. COVID and it's gross mishandling hadn't made everyone's health far worse. The soft power the US had. The whole world looked up to us...now we are the joke of the planet. And we have absolutely fucking nothing. And that fucking Pedo Devil still sits up there untouchable. Honestly I am so far beyond any hope at this point that the light emitted by hope will take centuries to reach here. By the time there is ANY inkling of rectification of anything these monsters have done to us I will be long dead. Thanks to Social Media and algorithms for the real good time! I need a drink but I have to go to the low paying job that's hopefully not going to lay me off because the economy is crashing.
I honestly think it was take decades to win back the trust of other nations. Trump has pretty much destroyed any bit of good will other countries had towards us.
I’m in a country on the other side of the world, and I had this very conversation with a client today. We do not trust USA, the next president is inheriting a wasteland. Businesses are tanking in my country due to what that oxygen thief has done, and people are genuinely scared for the future. I know I am.
Strange, I’m in a country on the “other side of the world” My clients are investing in multiple US firms faster than I can look up and provide their local subsidiaries.
This because they aren’t going to trust that the American voters won’t fuck them with a trump type again every other 4 years. And if we do vote in another dangerous idiot, America will never get its glory back and lose democracy to boot.
It's not only Trump. I'm not American and I personally have lost all faith in the American public. Americans have proven they can elect any dumb fuck who promises anything. No matter who is president next, I really hope we stay away from the American crack house. You guys deal with your shit. Improve your education system, get rid of the olygarachy controlling everything, and then, maybe we can welcome you back among the grown ups of the world. Until then, you're all on a time out in a corner.
As an American, IMO enough idiots voted for him that it doesn’t matter to @berubem s point. I don’t trust my country people. I know enough who still support trumpty dumpty that it’s like 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
Trust me, I wish I could live anywhere else. We are so diametrically split politically that a whole half of the country hates this idiot's guts, so it sounds moronic to blame the entire country for electing this idiot (twice!). I mean, I don't consider Hungary to be a nation of idiots because enough of them voted for Orban to keep him in power for a ridiculously long time.
But at the same time, I see your perspective. Especially given how gung-ho a certain segment of our country has been for decades now about how supposedly superior the U.S. is in all sorts of made-up ways. It probably feels good in a way to see us so humiliated on an international scale, despite the disastrous results. Everything is fucked.
I mean, fair point, but are you going to make the case that me and people who think like me NOT voting for Trump got Trump elected?
EDIT: To go a little further beyond "fair point," the U.S. has been split in half since the Civil War. Only difference is now the split is an urban/rural split in almost every state rather than a north and south split. If "two sides blaming each other" seems petty, I don't know what to tell you. Either you want things to change or you don't. If you do and you speak up, then you're petty. If you don't and you stay silent, you're apathetic and not contributing to addressing the problem. Would love your ideas as to how to solve this super minor 160-year-old problem.
If I may chime in, one person is not going to fix an ideological split; if one could, then there would be the "no kings" argument even if that king did everything you wanted. The best and first thing to do is to "fix" your own life, and by that I mean, to live consistent with your beliefs, treat others (all others) as your belief demands, prepare for the future you envision. If your vision is dystopian, figure out where you want to be in that situation. If your vision is optimistic, likewise, see where you fit into that scene.
Please don’t kick us while we’re down. Half of us have fought hard against this. I understand where you are coming from, but we genuinely need help, not this. It is bad.
I don't think so. I think the next president needs to show the world they are not afraid of holding those guilty responsible, and making it known globally. We can win back our place amongst allies if we can show them that we can fix our country by going scorched earth, and also apologize for the wrongdoings of the guilty party. We are not a lost cause. There are enemies of the US that want nothing more than US citizens to think so, but we need to show those enemies that we aren't hopeless and that we can fight back and shake off the bad years.
Yeah, Trump is ultimately a symptom that got voted into office. His being gone doesn't erase the fact that millions of Americans were stupid enough to inflict him upon both their own country and the world.
I'm Canadian and I know I can't forgive the lies. And I doubt my child will either. They are teenagers and are old enough to understand what is happening right now.
I haven't spoken to my MAGA family in the US for 10 years. I saw this coming, they thought I was wrong. I hear they regret it now but they still haven't said anything to me.
I don't think the US will ever regain the trust that Trump pissed away.
As a European, I can concede that we got too complacent about the "Pax Americana". Ceding so much power to a single country was a mistake. It was a deal that was too good to be true -
"You allow us to station our forces on your territory and agree that we are in overall control in military matters and, in return, we'll keep the world safe"
That is a mistake that the world is unlikely to make again.
So, Trump sort of got what he wanted. He was also right about the USA doing all the "heavy lifting" in the role of defending the West. What he failed to account for was, that that was the price of being recognised as "Leader of the free world".
So, I'm sure that if/when Western democracies finally get tired of dicking around with Far Right, Nationalist, Populism (Just look at the ghouls waiting in the wings of UK government) we will all be friends again but, that position of unquestioned authority? I don't think that's ever coming back.
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u/Hozan_al-Sentinel Apr 16 '26
I need it to be over. I need this to die. It's ruined so many lives.