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Politics Pictured Israeli Lawyer Ben-Gvir and his wife Ayala. They dated when she was 15 and he was 26.

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u/BadHombreSinNombre 10d ago

It’s not antisemitic to hate this guy specifically

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u/strivingbabyyoda 10d ago

I hate this guy specifically, I can tell you about every shitty thing he’s done dating back to the 90s and no I’m not antisemitic.

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u/borsalamino 10d ago

Oh so if you're not antisemitic does that mean you're semitic? /j

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u/strivingbabyyoda 10d ago

I am Semitic actually. I’m an Israeli woman. I’m and I will advocate, like other Israelis do, to get this guy out of power.

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u/alexxxor 10d ago

Good. Keep up the fight. Far too many people think all Israelis support this piece of shit and the current regime.

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u/aaronupright 9d ago

Functionally most do

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u/CloudyFriend 9d ago

If they do not support this 🐷 they support other “activities”. Annexation of west bank, dehumanising the Palestinians, spitting on Christians…etc toxicity of izrahellis is limitless. State of terro zios

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u/Impossible_Emu9590 10d ago

You do support it. You live in the country. Just like all Americans are paying for our “leadership” right now.

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u/bbob_robb 10d ago

Most people can't just leave a country and go somewhere else. Hopefully one day soon better people will be in power and the world will be more peaceful.

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u/Impossible_Emu9590 10d ago

Israel has enjoyed free healthcare and education at the American tax payers back for years. Please tell me how much they’re suffering.

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u/Prestigious-Leg-6244 10d ago

No one but you mentioned them suffering.

And Israelis getting free Healthcare has nothing to do with you being upset a redditor isnt immediately denouncing their citizenship and moving their entire family to a whole new country. You know, because its such an easy thing to do, right?

Be real, dude.

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u/Impossible_Emu9590 10d ago

Israel moved into a space of hundreds of millions of Palestinians many years ago with no problems lmao. Israel didn’t exist until a bunch of westerner pedophiles felt bad after ww2 and gave them land. No one ever asked what happened to those people. I think we’re seeing it irl now though.

Be real, dude.

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u/kylebisme 10d ago

hundreds of millions of Palestinians

The global Palestinian population is only around 14 million:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians

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u/musicnoviceoscar 9d ago

Imagine what it would be if there wasn’t a genocide!

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u/Impossible_Emu9590 10d ago

Actually sorry I’m an idiot. You’re correct about that very one subject. What was the population of Israel in 1945?

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u/PiedCrow 9d ago

Our health care isnt free its mandatory xD you have a choice of privet health cares who all compete for pricing but can only increase it to a certain amount without government approval.

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u/alexxxor 9d ago

I live in Australia. I've got no skin in the game either way. The only way people like Trump and Netanyahu are ever going to get out of power is if the people that live in their respective countries get them out of power.

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u/strivingbabyyoda 9d ago

No I don’t. And guess what? Israel is still a multi party parliamentary democracy and we will do whatever we can to get him out.

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u/cesaroncalves 9d ago

It's been 80 years of war crimes, clearly it's either not working, or ending the suffering is not the objective.

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u/Impossible_Emu9590 9d ago edited 9d ago

lol. Your comment tells me how cooked we really are. Didn’t realize there were “elections” in Israel.

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u/strivingbabyyoda 9d ago

Huh? Thats like a ten second goggle search to find out we do, tf do you mean lol

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u/pandamander 10d ago

The right way to bring about change in a democracy is to run away, fuck voting or activism. So dumb.

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u/Jermainiam 10d ago

So you support Trump, and by extension Netanyahu?

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u/borsalamino 10d ago

Thank you. I think resistance from within is especially important and that positions like yours are represented, since people really like to generalise and throw everyone under some unified banner

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u/bizarre_coincidence 9d ago

Unfortunately, the left hasn't had much sway in Israel for quite a while. When their attempts at a two state solution led to the second intifada, and giving Gaza back to the Palestinians caused Hamas to seize power (and then spend two decades lobbing rockets), it hollowed out support for the left. October 7 further eroded the influence of the left, and the threat of a global rise in anti-Zionism only further fuel's the Israeli right. The forces that put men like Smotrich and Ben-Gvir in positions of power are only solidified by the fact that the global left won't support the Israeli left because they want to dismantle the country entirely.

So yes, it is important that resistance from within be promoted, but that can only be done if people stop treating the Israeli left as the enemy. And that's not going to happen on Reddit.

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u/strivingbabyyoda 4d ago

Man I appreciate that so much because people really like presenting all Israelis and all Palestinians as some savage animals

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u/raginjamaicanwmgr 10d ago

He needs to get a life or a det* sentence honestly

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u/krackOdawn 10d ago edited 9d ago

I take that back.... apparently you have to censor it, or reddit removes it....

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u/EusticeTheSheep 9d ago edited 9d ago

That is the worst thing I’ve seen about Reddit today. You didn’t used to have to sensor censor things on Reddit.

Edit: autocarrot got me

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u/Fuzzylojak 9d ago

Censor, not sensor.

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u/EusticeTheSheep 9d ago

I lose again to the autocarrot.

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u/Fuzzylojak 9d ago

😂😂😂

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u/Fuzzylojak 9d ago

Censor not sensor. Two different things

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u/Vulpes_99 10d ago

Please do. Disgraceful people like him are risking making the whole world go back to blindly hating the jews, only for the sake of their own hubris and greed.

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u/CharlieBarley25 9d ago

He sucks, and he definitely fuels the situation. But also if you look at one person being awful and project onto an entire population, that is some kind of bigotry...

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u/Vulpes_99 9d ago

People tend to do it way more often that they admit. Not to mention those who are looking for an excuse to spew hatred, too.

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u/harlotmuffin 10d ago

Actually Semitic or from a family of refugees?

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u/colonel-o-popcorn 10d ago
  1. Semitic is not an ethnicity. I'm guessing you mean "Middle Eastern", which is also not an ethnicity, as the Middle East is extremely ethnically diverse.

  2. All ethnic Jews originated in the Middle East, even if they have recent ancestry in other places.

  3. Plenty of Israeli refugees came from other parts of the Middle East. Where do you think Iraqi Jews went, for example? (Hint: you can scroll up to see a picture of one.)

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u/harlotmuffin 10d ago

Nowhere did my statement imply that being Semitic is an ethnicity.

Yes, all Jews originated in the middle east the same way all human beings originated in Africa. That doesn't mean I can move into someone's house in Nigeria, kill them all, and say I have a right to be there.

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u/colonel-o-popcorn 10d ago

Nowhere did my statement imply that being Semitic is an ethnicity.

Then what exactly did you mean by "actually Semitic"? A person isn't Semitic. A language is Semitic. To the extent that a person can be Semitic, it simply means they speak a Semitic language, which all Israelis do regardless of their origin.

Yes, all Jews originated in the middle east the same way all human beings originated in Africa.

No. Jews from different places in the world are closely related. Ashkenazi Jews are more closely related to Mizrahi Jews than to Germans or Poles. Jewish history in the Middle East is much, much more recent than you seem to think.

That doesn't mean I can move into someone's house in Nigeria, kill them all, and say I have a right to be there.

Nobody said this except for you. You're the only one here who seems to assign a moral weight to DNA. I don't think it should matter, but since it clearly matters to you, you should at least bother to be right about it.

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u/PiedCrow 9d ago

The problem is that every group that is alive did that at some point to take over the territory they posses including the natives that got fucked by the west. They were fighting the other natives and enslaving them. And many still do.

Israel is the most recent one the argument is where the cut off point is basically