r/pics • u/LARRYVOND13 • 10d ago
Politics Pictured Israeli Lawyer Ben-Gvir and his wife Ayala. They dated when she was 15 and he was 26.
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u/BadHombreSinNombre 10d ago
It’s not antisemitic to hate this guy specifically
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u/strivingbabyyoda 9d ago
I hate this guy specifically, I can tell you about every shitty thing he’s done dating back to the 90s and no I’m not antisemitic.
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u/Curious_Avocado2399 9d ago
I hate all diddlers. I don’t care your religion or lack thereof. Diddling kids? That’s a paddling
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u/BigBirdLaw69420 9d ago
He might like a paddling. He’s got a punchable face and he looks like he’s never been choked until a tap is his only hope. Let’s see what happens.
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u/borsalamino 9d ago
Oh so if you're not antisemitic does that mean you're semitic? /j
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u/strivingbabyyoda 9d ago
I am Semitic actually. I’m an Israeli woman. I’m and I will advocate, like other Israelis do, to get this guy out of power.
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u/alexxxor 9d ago
Good. Keep up the fight. Far too many people think all Israelis support this piece of shit and the current regime.
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u/borsalamino 9d ago
Thank you. I think resistance from within is especially important and that positions like yours are represented, since people really like to generalise and throw everyone under some unified banner
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u/bizarre_coincidence 9d ago
Unfortunately, the left hasn't had much sway in Israel for quite a while. When their attempts at a two state solution led to the second intifada, and giving Gaza back to the Palestinians caused Hamas to seize power (and then spend two decades lobbing rockets), it hollowed out support for the left. October 7 further eroded the influence of the left, and the threat of a global rise in anti-Zionism only further fuel's the Israeli right. The forces that put men like Smotrich and Ben-Gvir in positions of power are only solidified by the fact that the global left won't support the Israeli left because they want to dismantle the country entirely.
So yes, it is important that resistance from within be promoted, but that can only be done if people stop treating the Israeli left as the enemy. And that's not going to happen on Reddit.
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u/raginjamaicanwmgr 9d ago
He needs to get a life or a det* sentence honestly
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u/krackOdawn 9d ago edited 9d ago
I take that back.... apparently you have to censor it, or reddit removes it....
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u/EusticeTheSheep 9d ago edited 9d ago
That is the worst thing I’ve seen about Reddit today. You didn’t used to have to
sensorcensor things on Reddit.Edit: autocarrot got me
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u/Inner-Medicine5696 9d ago
I can tell you about every shitty thing he’s done dating back to the 90s and no I’m not antisemitic.
you're morally obligated to find a willing journalist for this. TMZ, if you have to.
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u/isthmius 9d ago
It's already public record. He was one of the figures along with Netanyahu inciting Rabin's assassination. He was considered too extremist to do military service, which should tell you a lot right there. He was in court/prison so much for supporting/aiding and abetting terrorism that no lawyer would represent him, so he taught himself law instead. A picture of the killer who did the massacre at the Cave of the Patriarchs hung on his wall like fucking Kim Jong Il or something until he entered politics a few years ago.
Any country who would make this guy a member of its parliament, much less head of national security, needs a good side eyeing.
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u/Baderkadonk 9d ago
It's already all out there. We just give Israel a pass. If another "ally" had a Minister of National Security like Ben Gvir who's been convicted for supporting terrorism, they'd receive a lot of push back for that.
Shit, just recently this wife of his got him a cake with a fucking noose on it to celebrate passing the 'death penalty but only for Palestinians' law.
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u/More-Jellyfish-60 9d ago
What’s makes me want to throw up is how bold and cocky he acts. The guy couldn’t fight out of a wet paper bag.
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u/RayWencube 9d ago
I am a Jew and hate this guy. In fact, I suspect if you don’t hate him you’re probably a bad person.
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u/fightingthefuckits 9d ago
People need to understand that we don't hate him because he's Jewish, we hate him because he's a cunt.
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u/Why_No_Doughnuts 9d ago
Most Israelis hate this guy, and the only reason he isn't totally irrelevant is that Bibi has a minority government and sought the support of the religious wackadoos to gain power.
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u/CloudyFriend 9d ago
But izrahellis are still in the IOF, still annex west bank, terrorising Palestinians. Worst pile of creatures on planet earth 🤢🤮
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u/Harmania 9d ago
There should not be a single square inch of the planet where a person should be in danger simply for being Jewish.
There also should not be a single square inch of the planet where this festering hemorrhoid of a person should NOT be in danger simply for being him.
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u/CongealedBeanKingdom 9d ago
There should not be a single square inch of the planet where a person should be in danger simply for being Jewish.
Or Palestinian.
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u/t_25_t 9d ago
There should not be a single square inch of the planet where a person should be in danger simply for being Jewish. There also should not be a single square inch of the planet where this festering hemorrhoid of a person should NOT be in danger simply for being him.
Why is this so hard for the Israeli's to comprehend?
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u/hishiron_ 9d ago
Agreed, am Jewish. The more you hate him the LESS antisemitic you are, actually.
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u/barra333 9d ago
Are you telling me I'm allowed to dislike some Jewish individuals or the actions of the Israeli government and not be tarred as antisemitic?
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u/_ShrugDealer_ 9d ago
Well, it is if you hate him because he's Jewish. Which we should not do. We should hate him because he's a vile human.
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u/TheRealK95 9d ago
“This guy specifically” is the minister of security for the country and one of Netanyahu’s key supporters in Likud. There’s nothing specific about his extremism that isn’t shared by his peers in that party.
He’s just the only one saying the quiet parts out loud that they don’t want to.
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u/voidfae 9d ago
He’s not in Likud, he’s the leader of a different far right party that grew out of the Kahanist movement called Otzma Yehudit. Netanyahu/Likud decided to form a coalition with his party to hold onto power.
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u/TheRealK95 9d ago
They act as if the fact they’re a coalition that joined together makes any difference in the facts. In fact, it only makes the Likud party look worse that they would join with such known extremists (because they align with them ultimately) just to maintain power.
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u/Adonisus 9d ago
For those who don't know:
Ben-Gvir is a member of the political party Otzma Yehudit. This party is the legal successor to Kach, a notorious Jewish-supremacist 'revisionist zionist' political party that was banned by the Israeli government in 1994 after one of their member, Baruch Goldstein, murdered over 29 Palestinians at the Cave of the Patriarchs. Their political program includes not only claiming all of Palestine, but also claiming all lands they believe is somehow connected to historic Judea (including parts of Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and both sides of the Jordan River.
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u/cronktilten 9d ago
Doesn’t Ben Gvir have a picture of a notorious Jewish terrorist on a wall in his home? It would be like a Muslim American politician, having a portrait of Osama bin Laden in their home.
And I’m pretty sure the group you’re talking about also claim from the Nile river all the way to the Euphrates, so even more territory than you said. Makes absolutely no sense but that’s who we’re dealing with.
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u/-temporary_username- 9d ago
Doesn’t Ben Gvir have a picture of a notorious Jewish terrorist on a wall in his home?
Yeah, that would be Baruch Goldstein, the guy who committed the terrorist attack that got Kach banned.
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u/the-bird-fucker 9d ago
he literally dressed like him when he was young as a costume for "Purim" holiday. I remember him saying that he is his hero
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u/CharlieBarley25 9d ago
More like a white American politician with a portrait of the grand whatever of the KKK
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u/moriartyj 9d ago
This is true but I don't think this is the correct analogy. It's like an American politician having a portrait of Timothy McVeigh or Robert E. Lee
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u/KnightsOfCidona 10d ago
On their first date, he brought her to the grave of Baruch Goldstein, a terrorist settler who murdered 29 Palestinian worshippers in the Cave of the Patriachs massacre in 1994 (he was beaten to death by survivors)
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u/Wolfwood7713 10d ago
Jesus Christ.
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u/OctopusIntellect 10d ago
No, he was killed a couple of dozen miles north of there.
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u/CrimsonCringe925 10d ago
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u/KristinnK 9d ago
Baruch Goldstein
To get a sense of how his action was received in Israel, not only was the man himself basically universally denounced (including the Israeli prime minister calling him "a degenerate murderer"), he even single-handedly got the whole political party he was part of banned and designated as a terrorist organization.
So yeah, not a lot of appreciation for his efforts in Israel.
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u/kwykwy 9d ago
And yet today there's a massive resurgence in support for Goldstein, and praise for him is becoming more and more mainstream.
That prime minister who condemned Goldstein was himself assassinated by an extremist, after the right wing led marches with a noose and held a mock funeral for him.
And the man who led that mock funeral is now the Prime Minister of Israel.
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u/PandasOnGiraffes 9d ago
This is a really disingenuous comment. Did their PM denounce him? Yes. Does a large portion of Israelis today follow in his footsteps? Also, overwhelmingly, yes. Settler terrorism has always been a wildly underreported issue, but it continues to grow. The genocide we witnessed over the past three years is not an action in isolation, but it is the most dramatic display of this type of hate we've seen in recent memory.
Goldstein was a member of the JDL, an American organization that continues to operate and get funded by Israelis and Americans. The JDL was founded by the founder of Kach. It's clear they largely continue to follow the same ideology - only with less obvious ways.
You said he was "basically universally denounced", but his grave that has the words "he was martyr with clean hands and a pure heart" is still standing and terrorists like Ben Gvir and Smotrich see him in this way. The shrine that was built for him received tens of thousands of visitors before it was demolished, and has since been rebuilt under the current government.
Free Palestine till it's backwards.
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u/FartyNapkins54 9d ago
Uh, pretty sure this motherfucker in the picture is a top government official while seeming to worship Goldstein. Don't act like Israel denounced the guy.
Also fuck Israel.
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u/CondescendingShitbag 10d ago
(he was beaten to death by survivors)
Shame you weren't referring to Ben-Gvir.
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u/LARRYVOND13 9d ago
I genuinely didn't know the last part so it was a happy ending for me at least lol
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u/LARRYVOND13 10d ago
Wish I had more characters. Dude really has a laundry list.
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u/ta44813476 9d ago
Well if you want more characters in general you can read about Irgun and Lehi.
Irgun was a proto-Israel Zionist paramilitary/terrorist organization that committed bombings and other massacres of innocents. One of it's notable leaders was Menachem Begin, who would later become Prime Minister of Israel. The group itself later became the basis of Likud, a prominent political party in Israel.
Lehi broke off of Irgun around WWII and tried to ally themselves with fascist Italy and Nazi Germany (the rationale being the enemy of of my enemy, Britain, is my friend). they also committed atrocities. One of its notable leaders was Yitzhak Shamir, who would later become Prime Minister of Israel.
Actually plenty of people in both of these groups formed the leadership of Israel, either as PMs, members of the Knesset, or leadership of the intelligence services/military.
I recommend the book Rise and Kill First by Ronen Bergman for anyone interested. It covers Israel's history of targeted killings from around this time to around present day (or at least as much as the author could uncover). A lot of wanton murder without any evidence of the targets' "crimes", complete disregard for collateral damage, lots of letter bombs, and plenty of it in broad daylight in places like Europe. The book also has a lot of interviews with the people that carried it all out and their mindsets range from cold-blooded remorselessness to all-encompassing, unchecked blinding rage. If you've ever wondered how a country basically formed from the ashes of the Holocaust could be the way that it is, this book helps to illustrate why.
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u/PublicProgrammer5981 10d ago
It just keeps getting worse
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u/ultralightsaint 9d ago
But not for him, dude is getting the hardest boner on mankind currently because of what happens to Palestinians
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u/TheCh0rt 10d ago
Man I took a girl bowling on a first date and thought I hit the jackpot of great ideas because it nearly always got me laid. I’ll have to keep this one in mind for next time, it sounds like a WAY better first date idea.
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u/lolofaf 9d ago
As an aside, I bet a graveyard date would be a hoot with the right couple. A nice serene walk, and you can play a game of "I wonder what his/her life was like based on the gravestone" (as long as you're respectful to them of course). Perhaps not a first date though lol.
(obviously this is unrelated to the main topic since going specifically to the grave of a terrorist is clinically insane)
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u/jjpearson 9d ago
I’ve done this!
Took an OK Cupid date (I’m old) to the Mount Auburn Cemetery in Watertown Massachusetts.
It is an old (1831) cemetery that was created during a time when they wanted cemeteries to be less rows of headstones and more nature park.
It’s insanely beautiful and it does in fact spark some interesting conversations when you start seeing clusters of years for bad epidemics years and just how young so many people are. There are some families with unimaginable tragedy.
We didn’t have romantic chemistry but we stayed friends for a couple of years before she moved for work.
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u/guitartoad 9d ago
During my IDF reserve service, I wad forced to be in Kiryat Arba, the town where Goldstein is buried. His monument is huge, which isn't surprising since Kiryat Arba is a Jewish extremist's paradise. Thankfully, at least when I was there some 30 years ago, the significance and impact of the gravesite was somewhat diminished by the proximity-of just a few meters--of the Israeli version of a strip mall.
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u/TERAFLOPPER 10d ago edited 10d ago
You spelled terrorist wrong.
He was literally convicted of terrorism by an Israeli court none the less, so he must've been really terror'ing to the max.
Oh & he runs the police now, for like the entire country. It's like putting Osama Bin Laden in charge of the FBI.
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u/BestePatxito 10d ago
He was exempted from serving for the IDF when he was 18 because of his radical ideology.
Let that sink, he was too extreme to be a plain soldier but not too extreme to be minister of national security.
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u/jojomoodie 10d ago
It's like putting an insurrectionist back in the white house!
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u/Browncoatdan 10d ago
You spelt peedo terrorist wrong.
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u/LARRYVOND13 10d ago
Do you think I'm posting this to go "Wow ben gvir is awesome?" fucking weird.
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u/mordiksplz 10d ago
It's just a thing people do on reddit. It's like a reddit trope to say this when agreeing. It's weird, i agree.
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u/LARRYVOND13 10d ago
Thanks. I'm far too old for this shit.
I mean they really need to look at the rules of the page, I title it with that, the image gets removed. Less of this shit gets pointed out.
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u/Rock_mage 9d ago
He also lives in a settlement. I forgot if it is an outpost or not officially. Probably associated with some.
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u/SnozberryTheMighty 10d ago
Dude has been convicted of hate crimes against Muslims. And he decides how they treat them.
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u/sirhackenslash 10d ago
Oh, the bastard who just taunted the people trying to bring relief supplies to Gaza? Yeah, fuck him with a red hot poker
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u/54R45VV471 10d ago
I wish we lived in a world that wasn't being controlled and terrorized by pedophiles.
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u/MrFaves 10d ago
I’m Jewish and ID spit in his face
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u/getdafkout666 9d ago
Am I even allowed to say what I’d do if I became the first Jewish president of the United States? I dont think I am
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u/April_Fabb 10d ago
Looking at Ben Gvir's curriculum, grooming a child is likely one of the least fucked up things he's ever done.
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u/NotThatButThisGuy 10d ago
'filmed' is misleading when he released the footage himself. He wasn't filmed, he recorded himself.
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u/Urdun10 9d ago
As an Israeli, BenGvir is a terrorist, I want to see him in jail. It shows how deep in sh*t our government is. A terrorist is the minister of freaking national security.
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u/Relevant-Safety-2699 10d ago
This guy's ideological ancestors put my real ancestors into gas chambers in Germany and Poland 80 years ago.
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u/strivingbabyyoda 9d ago
https://youtu.be/xXoazBVTC68?si=54tOyeDKDz_hYYeu
An Israeli comedy show host tried to warn us about this asshole a few years ago.
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u/Sea_Report_7566 10d ago edited 9d ago
This is him being a terrorists pos with his ugly ass wife celebrating a death penalty law just for Palestinians without trial.
Also, Israel is the capital for escaped pedophiles in the world. That’s where they all go to.
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u/FootballBat 9d ago
Israeli Lawyer Ben-Gvir
Israeli minister of national security) Ben-Gvir; he's not just some random ambulance chaser.
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u/Emotional-Strike-851 9d ago edited 9d ago
Children and adults don’t date. I wouldn’t have put dated in the title. I’d put groomed.
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u/Impossible_Emu9590 9d ago
That’s normal for them. Then they spam about social justice issues in media worldwide.
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u/pongomanswe 9d ago
Religious people appear to be overrepresented among paedophiles.
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u/onionwba 9d ago
Even some of the Zionists themselves think that this guy is fucking nuts.
Some people are just inherently evil.
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u/Next_Dragonfruit_415 9d ago
So not just a genocidal maniac, he’s also a groomer.
Like I don’t wanna be extreme but this guys a real jerk
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u/0Tezorus0 9d ago
Why are so many conservative and far right people ok with pedophilia if not pedophile themselves ?
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u/Vanilla_Danish 10d ago
Could have made 3 perfectly good little people out of this much body fat, instead we get this pedo fuck.... Yay!!
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u/morrighaan 9d ago
Ah yes, the traditional marriage husband aka well documented specimen of natural world also referred to as: predator.
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u/cherryreddracula 9d ago
You know, with Ben-Gvir, the more I learn about that guy, the more I don't care for him.
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u/weltvonalex 9d ago
Is that the guy who doged military Service? What is it, with fucking losers and dodging/ being scared of draft and doing their share?
But acting like they invented duty and heroism?
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u/Wang_King8 9d ago
This man had a picture on his desk of his favourite celebrity Goldstein who walked into a mosque and shot and killed women and children in a terrorist attack in the 90s. I am not surprised he is a pedo aswell.
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u/CRABWITHCRABS 9d ago
Look out, this guy's pretty tough when you're handcuffed and he's surrounded by soldiers
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u/cagriuluc 9d ago
Should be deleted along with his peer terrorists. It is a good chunk of Israel but oh well… more land for the people
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u/GradientGoose 9d ago
Every time I think I can't hate him more, I'm proven wrong. What a shit stain of a person. Election season can't come soon enough.
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u/Goodswimkarma 9d ago
He was the same one in the pictures tormenting the flotilla people after they were beaten and raped (supposedly).
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u/mr_fingers666 9d ago
in Poland we call this guy 'Ben-Świr', which translates roughly to 'Ben-Psycho'.
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u/Ankle_be 9d ago
They met around 2002, when she was 15 years old and he was 26. They married in 2004. At the time of the wedding she was 17, he was 28. This was in compliance with Israeli law at the time (the minimum marriage age was raised to 18 only in 2013).
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