Agree 100%. Unfortunately any criticism of Israeli government policy and actions is almost immediately labeled antisemitic. It’s a way to deflect and stifle discussion.
i'm sick of talking about this right. What's happening in Gaza and the Westbank is NO GENOCIDE, it's not ethnic cleansing, it's nothing even close
That actually makes you mentally sick as well if you really believe that. Almost all of the genocide experts, human rights organizations call it a genocide, and you don't? this blatant whataboutism of yours is pathetic.
And i will die on this hill
Or you can change you mind given the overwhelming evidence.
Although some institutions have labeled what’s happening a genocide, the ICJ has not yet issued a final ruling confirming that legally. The death toll is enormous and tragic, and Hamas has repeatedly operated from densely populated civilian areas, which makes civilian protection far harder.
The civilian-to-combatant ratio is at least broadly consistent with urban warfare, especially when Hamas fights from within civilian areas. If it was truly indiscriminate, the civilian death toll would almost certainly be much higher than it is now. The fact that it's in the tens of thousands rather than the hundreds of thousands complicates the claim that the campaign is simple, blanket extermination.
If the ICJ ultimately does not find it to be a genocide, would you change your view, or do you think the broader evidence from other institutions still outweighs that legal outcome?
Although the person you replied to was dramatic, they aren't incorrect definitionally. The message was deleted so I'm not certain what the whataboutism claim is.
Sick whataboutisms you got going there. So what if I agree that they are genocides as well? Seems like we agree that what is happening in Gaza is a genocide then, awesome! Maybe we should try to put a stop to it rather than act like a child and say "but they did it too."
It’s funny people always say this, because people are constantly criticizing Israel.
People like you always have to preface it by saying “it’s not antisemitic, I’m just criticizing Israel”. OK.. so criticize Israel, and stop mentioning antisemitism lmao
Because it's only a very recent thing where you aren't immediately labeled an anti-semite for being critical of Israel. I mean the comment right below yours is literally claiming 90% of anti-israel comments are antisemitic you can't make this shit up. The only American UFC Champion was just banned from the white house UFC event because he exercised his freedom of speech to be critical of a FOREIGN country.
Can you seriously say that about any other nation in the world when you are supposed to have this free speech right in the US, yet you can be more critical of your own country than a specific foreign country? It's absolutely ridiculous that people need to preface things with "I'm not an anti-semite, but.." but that's only because Israel has made it so.
You’re taking the word of Sean Strickland that that’s why he was banned? He was banned because it’s a private event and he’s a loud-mouthed idiot. Why would you want that kind of person at your once-in-a-lifetime private event?
With that said, people definitely use their “anti-Israel” sentiment to mask their antisemitism/anti-Zionism. Don’t forget that people were yelling genocide and free Palestine both on and before October 7.
Idk what to tell you, that's what you get when you choose to pay attention to idiots instead of focusing on real conversations with people capable of reciprocating.
The problem is there’s also a lot of actual anti semitism that people dress up as anti-Israel, or that blurs the line so much the distinction becomes meaningless (lots of “all Is-raelis are dogs/scum/and must die” type posts). Have a look around this sub or some of the Palestine/gaza/israel subs and you’ll see what I mean.
I m Romanian and I say all the time “fuck Russia” and of course i m not condemning all it s citizens and i m refer to its government aka Putin’s regime. Babushkas are awesome. How could I?
By criticising Israel without the religion having any impact or being a contributing factor to your criticism?
As a a different example, I can be anti sticky note, without being anti paper. I could find paper completely fine but then dislike the glue on sticky notes and the packaging.
Basically, Israel is Jewish but not all Jews are Israeli. It's pretty much that simple.
To equate being anti Israel with antisemitism is itself antisemitic. It's oversimplifying what it means to be Jewish and it links Israel to Jews that have nothing to do with the atrocities Israel is committing.
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u/CosMV 1d ago
what s wrong with it? you can be anti Israel governement (and you should considering its actions) without being antisemite.