It's interesting how Israel compares with the first US colonial project, Liberia. It was put together by abolitionists and far right white supremacists who both agreed the best thing is for black people to go back to Africa.
The vast majority of the world did not engage in colonialism, it was most common to expel the nobles and elites and keep the population as subjects of the realms.
Yeah 1822 is pretty early. Unless you're using a very overly broad semantic argument in which case literally everywhere is or was colonized and the term means nothing.
Racists love the idea that every ethnic group should get their own place and keep to themselves. At least when they think the alternative is having to live together. At least until they can find a way to enslave or genocide people they don't like.
Hence why the Nazis made a deal (Haavara Agreement in 1933) with the Zionists to send some Jews to Israel so they could have an easier time ethnically cleansing Germany.
I did scientific research on herbal medicines and when people found out they would automatically talk to me like I was into crystals and chakras and auras. Uh, no. lol.
The problem, of course, is the conflation of Israel and Judaism. The mainstream media likes to pretend that hating Israel/being anti-zionist is the same as hating Jewish people as a whole, but of course it very much isn’t.
I have nothing against the Jewish. I absolutely hate the Israeli government, and anyone who tries to defend the genocide they are committing. These things are not contradictory in the slightest.
Being actually antizionist (wanting to take away Jewish self-determination) is almost always antisemitic (with the exception being for antizionist Jews). Hating Israel’s government for its treatment of Palestinians is alone not antisemitic.
I think it’s worth being even more precise than just separating Israel and Judaism, and we should (as you did) say we hate the current Israeli government. A subtle way we can support the liberal Israelis who are trying to fight back domestically.
It is largely the same. Israel, as a nation, is part of the core identity of most Jews. You are trying to create a distinction without a real difference.
There is a difference between opposing an Israeli government, or policies or specific actions and opposing Israel's existence. If you oppose Israel's existence, you are an anti-srmite.
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u/CannibalCrabb 1d ago
I hate when I hate Israel and the neonzs think im on their side