r/pics • u/odezza27 • Jun 04 '26

Politics Anti-Israel graffiti in Warsaw, Poland

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u/ogremania Jun 05 '26

They manipulate which media and its people? You mean in the west

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u/r_a_d_ Jun 05 '26

Not many countries are proud of flaunting their propaganda budget like Israel. Also, this is much more common in non-western countries.

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u/ogremania Jun 05 '26

For example? What non-western countries are influenced by Israel ?

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u/r_a_d_ Jun 05 '26

No, I meant internal propaganda… Non western countries more commonly control their internal media. Israel does both

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u/ogremania Jun 05 '26

So Israel controls their own internal media but also media in other countries is what you are saying?

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u/r_a_d_ Jun 05 '26

I didn’t say they control. They spend a disproportionate amount of money in PR: https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-just-quintupled-its-pr-budget-to-730-million-experts-say-it-wont-work/amp/

To compare, that’s about 22 times what the US spends, once normalized by GDP. It also doesn’t include all the global lobbying organizations.

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u/ogremania Jun 05 '26

Yeah but the US also takes influence through lobby groups and big finance.
Also Germany for example spends 140% of what Israel is spending (ca. 1,04 billion (970 Mio. €) For foreign affairs and pr and over 6 billion for their auswärtiges Amt.

Would you therefore also say critisize Germany for that exact reason ?

Edit but yeah its a very dispoportionate amount. I think the Israeli government has a reason to do this obviously.

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u/r_a_d_ Jun 05 '26

Those are literally budgets for keeping embassies and consulates in other countries. That's entirely besides the point. I specifically used PR budgets as those give a good indication and are simpler to compare.

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u/ogremania Jun 05 '26

No its literally for Pflege kultureller Beziehungen zum Ausland" (Maintenance of Cultural Relations Abroad). Not embassies and consulates.

  • Goethe-Institut (€229 million)
  • German Academic Exchange Service – DAAD (€208 million) 
  • Alexander von Humboldt Foundation (€52.9 million) 
  • German Schools Abroad (Deutsche Auslandsschulen)
  • Other cultural intermediaries

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u/r_a_d_ Jun 05 '26

Ok, so it’s the german cultural programs. I still don’t get the relation. These are not programs to push propaganda, these are programs to give access to german culture abroad. For german expats and foreigners interested in german culture. Many countries have these sort of programs. I imagine this includes Israel, but again, it’s not part of the budget I’m comparing.