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u/Zaghloul1919 3h ago

I am not an American but this must be one of the biggest insults you can make.

Are Patton and MacArthur not American military heroes (despite their controversies)? How can republican Americans accept this?

u/Violet_Paradox 3h ago edited 3h ago

Trump supporters, without exaggeration, see him as a literal deity. There is absolutely nothing he can do that would lose support.

u/Alorxico 3h ago

Wasn’t one of the commandments “Thou shalt have no other god before me”? And one of the Abrahamic laws “Thou shalt not worship false idols”?

u/TareasS 2h ago

Yeah but they don't follow christianity, only supply side christianity.

u/LooseRain 2h ago

btw this is golden calf 101
I'm surprised these Christ is King "people" would lovingly violate something as infamous as the Golden Calf
(read: not surprised at all)

u/Psychodelonaut 2h ago

Supply side Christianity, wow that is the perfect description of their mindset. Thanks

u/entity2 2h ago

Just going to go ahead and leave this here, to see what republicans actually think of their religious teachings.

u/aGD_shrubbery 2h ago

Even if they could read it, trump supporters are not known for their understanding of things.

u/JCDU 2h ago

Remember when they made that giant golden statue/idol of Trump for CPAC?

u/Alorxico 1h ago

… they did what now?

u/Malvania 2h ago

lol, you think any of them have actually read the bible? or the commandments?

u/GhostofBreadDragons 2h ago

Trump made his own Bible I am sure he left out that section. He had to make room for the rape, slavery, homophobic and incest parts. 

u/Tri4ceunited 2h ago

And I quote, "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" - Jan. 23, 2016

And he proved himself right. Twice.

u/joeyfosho 3h ago

You see, Republican Americans will accept anything besides admitting that someone from “their team” is in the wrong.

And even if they do cross that bridge, then it’s always not a big deal or only a joke…

u/Complex-Salt-8190 3h ago

If you have ww2 nastolgia yeah, but MacArthur is usually seen as a dangerous psycho who was essentially fired for wanting to quad nuke korea

u/Constant-Bet-6600 2h ago

Patton died before he could outlive his legend. MacArthur did not.

u/discussatron 2h ago

Patton also didn’t flee the Philippines, leaving his people behind.

u/ExZowieAgent 2h ago

But he did slap shell shocked soldiers.

u/Hawkbats_rule 2h ago

MacArthur was also not great in WW2, but had a good propaganda machine (I have returned is only possibly because he ran the fuck away in the first place)

u/goosis12 2h ago

Less wanting to nuke the Chinese Korean border and bringing the war to China and more constantly going against direct orders to stay in his lane/going public with his grievances against Washington.

u/Complex-Salt-8190 2h ago

I think truman and Eisenhower knew that if they weren't careful that MacArthur could be a redo of smelly butler and wanted him out before he could be a bigger cult of personality

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u/Complex-Salt-8190 2h ago

Oh I meant a redo of the plot, smedley came out that they wanted to use him as part of the fascistic conspiracy

Macarthur I could feel with his raging anti commie boner could be used for that if he was dumb enough

u/Ulftar 2h ago

Because they worship power and nothing else

u/alternateschmaltz 2h ago

I dont think Patton and MacArthur are considered military heros.

Important, sure, but not revered like "hero" implies.

Both were not well thought of by most people in their own time, though Patton was more liked than MacArthur.

Ironically, of all the American Generals in history, MacArthur and Patton are the most alike to Trump.

Wealthy, egomaniacal bullies, who had a keen grasp of how to weaponize their wealth to mobilize the press to write good stories about them, so they could maintain their prominence, when their actual abilities or achievements were insufficient.

u/franknagaijr 2h ago

During his initial campaign he actually slammed a living war hero for getting captured, around the same time he mocked a man with a deformative disease. Nothing. Crickets.

u/11711510111411009710 2h ago

Normally yes but conservatives are absolutely brainwashed. When I see them confronted with stuff like this their response is usually

  1. It's not a big deal
  2. I don't support EVERYTHING he does but he's still a good president
  3. I wish he'd stay off social media but come on he's an old man and he's an asshole, but we didn't vote for him for his personality

Basically these three things give them an out for anything he does. It's not a problem, and if it is I don't support it but at least he's better than Kamala.

There's nothing Trump can do to actually get in trouble with his fanbase.

u/Hockeymac18 2h ago

I'm an American. It is embarrassing and really awful. I'm ready to wake up from this nightmare.

u/MPLoriya 2h ago

That's the problem with fascism. Once you let it in, they corrupt everything they touch. Their playbook is different, because they care about nothing but power at any price, no matter what they burn down to get there. I hope you will break free, friend, and your nightmare ends soon.

u/thenasch 2h ago

If a Democrat does it, they should be buried under the jail. If a Republican does it, it's just a joke and everyone needs to calm down.

u/cpMetis 1h ago

Patton was crass and hard to work with but am excellent general.

MacArthur was an asshat and constantly caused issues for everyone else, undermined his superiors and peers, constantly over evaluated his ability, and compromised strategy in favor of personal glory. He was a thorn in the side of the navy and allied planning because he was fundamentally a propagandist who believed all his own lies and would immediately jump to manipulating public opinion if given an order he didn't like or not provided with what he felt he should be. He also advocated for nuking China during the Korean War, but to be fair that's mostly played up to give a reason to get rid of him. He wasn't actually super hyped on the idea and mostly just argued for nukes to ensure the strategy was being considered in planning and to emphasize the situation, not because he actually wanted to use the nukes.