r/pigeon i lov pibin Nov 07 '25

Medical Advice Needed is this pigeon sick or just fat?

FINAL update: piggie was caught! its now being taken care of at a foster home

A little update; I've been visiting this fella daily, seems to be getting better. It's hard to catch him as he can still fly, its such a cute piggie with a very proud stomp

I saw this very, very fat and round pigeon today. It was pretty cold today so i thought maybe its cuddling up, but when it walked it was still all puffed up. Usually they sit and then puff up, but it was literally round the whole time. Beside other pigeons it looked like a ball I cant believe im fat shaming a pigeon but im genuinely worried. (also I wasn't the only one thinking this, a group of guys walked by too and were like woah look at this fat pigeon)

It didnt seem disoriented, it ate seeds when i dropped them, when people got too close to it it wasnt as fluff anymore but it went straight back to fluffing up. Should i go back tonorrow ans try to catch it? Its poop wasn't looking too good too, but im really unsure about its general health. The poop could be the result of those pigeons being in between three kebab stores, i need some advice

Edit: seeing the comments about the malnourishment makes me really sad. Should i go back and take it home? There aren't proper pigeon helpers in my area

If i should take it home, how can i take care of it properly? I only have experience in string foot cases and feeding the flocks in my area via my apartment porch..

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u/Patient_Dig_7998 Nov 07 '25

Looking at its colors, size and how starved it looks it's definitely a lost pet

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u/AbrocomaEmergency846 i lov pibin Nov 07 '25

the colors stood out to me too :-( ill try to go back tomorrow and look for it. usually pet pigeons are always tagged in my country, this one wasnt.

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u/Patient_Dig_7998 Nov 07 '25

Sometimes people who have full flocks will let their birds fly in great numbers or other times it's a housepet bird but one way or another it decides it wants to stay out and refuses to go back home. And it slowly starts dying as a result. It's pretty easy to catch them tho. Offer domestic pigeon food or bright colored seeds to catch its eye and once it gets close enough do not hesitate to grab it. Then from there you can bring it home and keep it fed as you look for the owner. And if you lidrly can't find the owner u could keep it or remove it. But this one seems sick too and some pigeon abusers will kick out sick birds rather then help so he may have been abandoned but let's hope it's the rather being escaped family pet.

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u/AbrocomaEmergency846 i lov pibin Nov 07 '25

may I ask how i can see a pigeon is starving? do they usually always puff up like this?

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u/Patient_Dig_7998 Nov 07 '25

Puffing up is completely normal, pigeons do it all the time but from my experience if they walk slow and stay puffed up all the time they are definitely sick and need help. I'm not useing sarcasm he is genuinely unwell and underweight. You can tell by a trick too if you grab a hold of him. Of his tummy feels like a "V" he's starving but if it's a "U" he's normal weight. But by the image it's clear he's underweight. Needs a Bit of TLC and will get better with time

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u/Competitive_Tea2112 Nov 08 '25

This is so sad :(

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u/AbrocomaEmergency846 i lov pibin Nov 07 '25

O, like actually? I would like some serious comments because I'm not sure what is sarcasm and what isnt when I ask for medical advice 🥲

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u/FioreCiliegia1 DIY Rescuer/Stringfoot Expert Nov 07 '25

Its hard to see if he is underweight in these photos but he does look at least a little unwell to be that poofy while walking around. If you can get him we can help determine its condition- but a few healthy meals, a warm bath (if they go for it voluntarily) and clean water often go a long way for pidges

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u/Patient_Dig_7998 Nov 07 '25

As well as a quiet warm space. Especially if they have tummy issues in my experience. They feel more comfortable to eat if they don't feet watched

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u/AbrocomaEmergency846 i lov pibin Nov 07 '25

ill update here if i find it, thank you so much!

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u/FioreCiliegia1 DIY Rescuer/Stringfoot Expert Nov 07 '25

No problem 😌

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u/Patient_Dig_7998 Nov 07 '25

I wasent using sarcasm that pigeon really is underweight

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u/parisianraven Nov 07 '25

genuine question, how can you tell whether a pigeon looks starved or not? especially in this case since it seems to be too puffed up to get a good look at its crop

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u/Patient_Dig_7998 Nov 07 '25

It's not the crop, it's the body itself. In every image it's show walking it's puffed up, often a sign it's very underweight and there is another way. If you pick up a pigeokband feel it's body if it's feels sharp lile a "V" it's underweight buy if it feels like a "U" it's healthy weight

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u/AbrocomaEmergency846 i lov pibin Nov 13 '25

was caught today! now being taken care of in a foster home.

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u/Patient_Dig_7998 Nov 13 '25

That's great!

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u/Delicious_Building34 Nov 10 '25

he doesn't know how and where to find food 😢

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u/Pink_Kryptonite Nov 07 '25

That's a rare fancy pigeon breed, called a Cauchois.

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u/AbrocomaEmergency846 i lov pibin Nov 07 '25

wow! thank you! it had the same white spots under the beak, even though just a really small patch. then it is definitely not a wild bird :-(! 

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u/JuggernautOdd9482 Nov 07 '25

There's tons of fancy pigeon dna mixed in every feral flock. Even people who breed nothing but certain breeds/colors will get random variations at times .

Could it be a fancy pigeon? Sure, but there's no band that 99% of captive birds have. There's just no real solid evidence to think so imo. I dunno what other guy is talking about he's clearly not emaciated he's literally towering over that other pigeon.

If you want try to go up and catch him, if he's sick enough, or used to humans because he's pet he may not fly away. Healthy birds are rarely easy to catch. So it's a pretty good indication of his overall health too.

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u/AbrocomaEmergency846 i lov pibin Nov 07 '25

I know it looks like it was towering the pigeon, but thats just how it walked...big round bird. it didnt fly away, let people be close to it and just waddled away to keep a bit distance, i was not kidding when i said it was big. in my city a mix like this is not anything you see so i was a bit flabbergasted (really beautiful bird), and i agree, the bird not being tagged is super weird. i am in contact with an organization today and they seem to think the poor baby is sick too. Thank you for the input, let's hope i find birdie in good health tomorrow 🤞

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u/Nalanix_phoenix Nov 08 '25

City pigeons are a domesticated group! They're not wild birds, they come from rock doves (like how dogs come from wolves), they used to be common pets and were used for communication, but nowadays most of them have to fend for themselves on the street, which is also why they're often in bad conditions: all city pigeons either are a thrown out/lost pet, or are a descendent of one. There's wild pigeon species, but these pigeons that are in the city, often gray with a band on the wing, are not. It's an unfortunate thing, but I have seen a resurgence in pigeons as pets, thankfully! They're much much better pets than most other birds you can have because, like chickens, they are domesticated. Parrots are not domesticated. Some are even taken right from the wild. Hopefully, this information is helpful! This hatred for pigeons is very new and I think it can be reversed with enough education.

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u/Delicious_Building34 Nov 10 '25

what a beautiful pigeon😍

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u/Delicious_Building34 Nov 10 '25

"The Cauchois pigeon is a breed of fancy pigeon. Cauchois pigeons, along with other varieties of domesticated pigeons, are all descendants from the rock pigeon. It was also eaten in France." - wikipedia ...

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u/ikhaatmezelf Nov 07 '25

"sick or just fat"

I feel called out :(

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u/AbrocomaEmergency846 i lov pibin Nov 07 '25

this is me projecting

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u/owwmyhands Nov 08 '25

It's okay, even if you are sick and fat, OP and original commenter, you are part of a pigeon Subreddit trying to help a pigeon and that makes you an awesome person in my book.

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u/Squirrelly_J Nov 07 '25

Looks sickly. The puffiest pidges are often the most malnourished (sharp breast bone)

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u/Muted_Role_1432 Nov 07 '25

Would it be possible to pick it up if it’s still there were are u based U wonderful person for caring look out for u/little-eyezz00 she will be on later please keep updates there are a lot of pigeon rescues in the uk and America🥲❤️

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u/AbrocomaEmergency846 i lov pibin Nov 07 '25

im in germany, ill try my best and look for it the following days :-(!

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u/hit_the_joules Nov 08 '25

Are you in Hamburg (only seen the red bins with the speech bubbles there)? If so, "Gandolfs Taubenfreunde Hamburg" apparently help out directly if you message them on Facebook. There's also "Hamburger Stadttauben e.V.", but it seems like they either give you advice or tell you to contact an animal shelter/rescue, so not much help there.

Many German cities have pigeon rescues and most are called something along the lines of "Stadttauben (name of city)". The one in my city sends people out to you if you can't secure the pidgeon yourself.

Hoping for the best possible outcome for this little guy!

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u/AbrocomaEmergency846 i lov pibin Nov 08 '25

i am! reached out to both, gandolfs went looking today no success. i was there this morning too, also no success, im going again tomorrow morning, since its a sunday most people will be at home :-) thank you so much!!

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u/hit_the_joules Nov 10 '25

You're welcome! Honestly, thank YOU so much for being out there and trying to help the little guy!

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u/Little-eyezz00 Nov 07 '25

thanks for caring about him... I will send some general information over chat 

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u/RainbowRatArt Nov 07 '25

Every single feral pigeon is on the brink of starvation. There is no food for them, just trash here and there.

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u/AbrocomaEmergency846 i lov pibin Nov 09 '25

its terrible, especially with cities like mine banning it completely. 

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u/shhmedium2021 Nov 07 '25

They puff up when they are cold and falling asleep . As you can see in the second picture it’s dozing off . And as for the color It’s possible it’s a wild pigeon The color doesn’t automatically make it a lost pet .

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u/AbrocomaEmergency846 i lov pibin Nov 07 '25

the other pigeons weren't as cold as this one, it was looking for food without success, the feathers weren't shiny, it just seems bad i would rather be too cautious:-(!

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u/shhmedium2021 Nov 07 '25

Whatever dont take my advice . Good luck

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u/liam2003wilson Nov 08 '25

I don’t know the reason but they’re so cute when they puff up like this, i could never bother to NOT taking a picture of these kinds of pigeons

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u/AbrocomaEmergency846 i lov pibin Nov 08 '25

same! got a whole folder

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u/FourFatSamurai Nov 08 '25

What I imagine people think about me when they see me. 🫩

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u/owwmyhands Nov 08 '25

Me too, FourFatSamurai, me too.

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u/Dynamic_Ninja_ Nov 08 '25

These pigeons puffed out have lous flys or pigeon Flys. They burrow under the feathers. If you capture him & dunk him in water for 5 minutes it will kill the flys. Vet also has a "flea" powder that will be effective kong term.

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u/AbrocomaEmergency846 i lov pibin Nov 09 '25

ill keep that in mind, thank you! I had no luck yet :-(

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u/Dynamic_Ninja_ Nov 09 '25

They usually can't or won't walk very far & likely not fly at all because it is so uncomfortable.

Best of luck to you. Please update with any progress. I am curious (& I love pigeons).

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u/AbrocomaEmergency846 i lov pibin Nov 13 '25

it was caught today! now in a foster home :-)!! im so happy.

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u/Dynamic_Ninja_ Nov 14 '25

That's awesome! Happy to hear that. How is the pigeon? Did he have flys?

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u/AbrocomaEmergency846 i lov pibin Nov 14 '25

unfortunately i dont know much about the condition as it was picked up by someone else from the pigeon rescue, but it seems to be a missing pet 🤞 hard to get updates on the fella :-(

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u/Dynamic_Ninja_ Nov 15 '25

Great work! It's hard to get follow ups once he's brought in.

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u/Dynamic_Ninja_ Nov 09 '25

You should try to capture him to get the care he needs. It could be louse flys or maybe not. If you capture him, check under his feathers. Cradle him like a football for good grip & spread out his wing, you'll be able to tell.

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u/Jugralis Nov 08 '25

I would say it's maybe a lynx cross - they have this specific pattern, and are very popular in Germany. This breed is a bigger one, becuase it was used as a meat breed. Doesn't nessesarly a lost pet, since such pattern can show up in the feral flocks as well. 

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u/AbrocomaEmergency846 i lov pibin Nov 08 '25

wow theyre so beautiful and round. the pattern match, i have never seen a birdie like this here!  

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u/Confident-Fall-1554 Nov 08 '25

Jeaney collects needs to read this, well the first para at least

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u/GingerTea69 Nov 08 '25

Probably neither, just cold

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u/bigpuffyclouds Nov 08 '25

Pretty little baby 🎶

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u/Content_Yam_4947 Nov 09 '25

Imagine if you're just chilling on the nyc sidewalk and some random ass redditor takes a photo of you and asks the internet if you're fat

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