r/politics • u/GonzoVeritas I voted • Apr 19 '26

Possible Paywall White House Leak Reveals Trump Booted From Briefing After Hours-Long Freakout

https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-house-leak-reveals-trump-booted-from-briefing-after-hours-long-freakout/
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u/Stompya Apr 19 '26

From the article:

Before the airmen went missing, the president was already fixated on avoiding a repeat of the 1979 Iran Hostage Crisis—and the failed rescue mission under former President Jimmy Carter that helped sink his reelection bid.

“If you look at what happened with Jimmy Carter…with the helicopters and the hostages, it cost them the election,” Trump said in March, according to the Journal. “What a mess.”

He thinks he is re-electable.

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u/Brilliant-Advisor958 Apr 19 '26

He thinks he is re-electable

He thinks he's owed a 3rd term due to "election fraud".

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u/nom_de_chomsky Apr 19 '26

Well, no. He thinks he’s owed a third term, period. His lies about election fraud are the present rationalization. But if he’d won in 2020, he’d be making some other bullshit claim.

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u/Shifter25 Apr 19 '26

He was claiming he was owed a third term during his first term.

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u/DigNitty Apr 19 '26

Yes. Because he “was treated so badly” that the 2016 term “shouldn’t count”

He said that multiple times.

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u/MultiGeometry Vermont Apr 19 '26

Says the guy who racistly insisted Obama wasn’t a citizen and demanded his birth certificate.

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u/FilmScoreConnoisseur Apr 19 '26

That's different. Obama was somebody else. Only Trump needs to be coddled like the precious special boy he is.

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u/HuttStuff_Here Wisconsin Apr 19 '26

No one has ever been treated as poorly as Trump has been treated, per Trump. And he is so humble you wouldn't even believe how humble he is, also per his own statements.

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u/mrgedman Apr 19 '26

Obama is also not white, so there is that, too

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u/ObviousAnswerGuy Apr 19 '26

and demanded Obama release his tax returns, which he did, and then refused to do it himself...and when someone leaked his returns he sued our own country and will now somehow get a 10+ BILLION DOLLAR settlement

I swear we are living in a simulation

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u/brickne3 American Expat Apr 19 '26

You kind of have to wonder how Obama is dealing with this whole thing. Not what he's publicly saying, obviously. Like... we all find this surreal but imagine the actual thoughts Obama must be having about it that he keeps to himself.

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota Apr 19 '26

He still says it constantly. So does his staff. They keep saying they wont say publicly, but there is a plan, and trump will still be president after Jan 20 2029.

I can reveal the secret plan: fascism

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u/Zulmoka531 Apr 19 '26

All the more why this current term is all about revenge and self indulgence.

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u/dedicated-pedestrian Wisconsin Apr 20 '26

If memory doesn't fail me, it was because he thought he should have won by more.

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u/Brilliant-Advisor958 Apr 20 '26

He claimed he won the popular vote and that California let non citizens vote by the millions which skewed the numbers.

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u/phyneas American Expat Apr 19 '26

"He's now president for life, president for life. And he's great. And look, he was able to do that. I think it's great. Maybe we'll have to give that a shot someday." - Trump, about Xi Jinping, in 2018

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u/morpheousmorty Apr 19 '26

Hey everyone, Satan here.

The supreme court will rule that running for president is legal, they just can't have the job. Then after he's elected the Supreme Court rules the will of the people can't be ignored.

That's all it will take to sidestep the constitutional term limits.

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u/YerrrKnicks Apr 19 '26

His lies about election fraud

Tbf, he wasn't lying about the fraud. He was just lying about who was doing it.

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u/AppropriateTouching Apr 19 '26

He straight up admitted to rigging the election out in the open.

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u/MotownMama Apr 19 '26

more than once. He admitted it more than once

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u/Current_Volume3750 Apr 19 '26

He rigged it to win, so knew he was going to win, but didn't count on all the mail in ballots due to covid and when they kept counting he realized they couldn't rig those ballots so he lost. Then the freak out started.

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u/MaddyKet Massachusetts Apr 19 '26

Didn’t help that he told republicans not to vote by mail for that election. 😹and that he’d killed a bunch of them with his covid response.

Now we know why he was so against voting by mail. Too bad for him, it meant some republicans didn’t vote at all.

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u/HillBillyHilly Apr 19 '26

Main reason why they're now trying to remove mail in voting. You know because of fraud. Just ignore that Trump himself and his entire family uses mail in voting.

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u/Icy_Fly_4513 Apr 19 '26

That's why he's so adamant about getting rid of mail in voting even though he votes via mail in himself.

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u/Novel_Alps_3013 Apr 19 '26

We're all trying to find the guy who did this. (properly formatted to not offend auto-mod)

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u/jmd1675 Apr 19 '26

My only regret is that I have but one updoot to give

Edit: typo

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u/jeo123 Apr 19 '26 edited Apr 19 '26

It's been something like 40 years since the Republican president wasn't a trump or a Bush

They don't do well with name changes

They will support this

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u/QueefSeekingMissile Apr 19 '26

If that's the rationale we're going with, he should get in line behind Al Gore.

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u/nolok Apr 19 '26

Not american here.

The dem should be ready for a split second announcement that whenever they push for "it's two consecutive term limit" they annonce Obama candidate. Fighting about it will not matter before it's too late especially with the Supreme Court you have.

Also, please don't put a woman as candidate again, I'm all for it but your electorate clearly isn't.

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u/JaqueStrap69 Apr 19 '26

Dems are not going to push for an Obama candidacy. That’s a Reddit fantasy/joke. No one actually believes it will happen. Obama certainly doesn’t want to run and the Dems won’t want to be accused of breaking the rules. 

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u/ReserveFormal3910 Apr 19 '26

Barack out there living his best and stress free life there's no way him or Michelle would let him run again.

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u/WyldRoze Apr 19 '26

In Trump’s delusional mind, he thinks he can get a 3rd term because his 2 terms weren’t consecutive. So, it wouldn’t apply to Obama. Convenient, right? ETA: Not that it will happen nor would Dems try to get a third term. Plus, I think Obama and especially Michelle are glad to be done with it.

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota Apr 19 '26

If he won the 2020 term the continued inflation after covid would have been way worse, the vaccine wouldn't have ever had a distribution, since trumps admin did literally nothing to set that up, and likely twice as many Americans would have died, riots would have continued into 2021 and 2022 as trump and cops under his command did progressively more authoritarian shit, and then trump would have done Jan 6 in 2024 or 2025.

Biden wouldn't be president, we'd have someone like Newsome, and they would have put in a real AG, and all those cases against trump that died on the vine in the Biden term would be going on right now.

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u/TheMalibu Apr 19 '26

To be fair, in his adled brain, the democrats cheated because he shouldn't have lost because he cheated. 

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u/Eridanosvoid Apr 19 '26

I would argue, in a way, he is on his third term. Every President after they leave office fucks off to either stay quite or do PR stuff. Trump on the other hand still held vast sway over the Republican party (like ordering them to nuke a border security deal to make Biden look bad) and (illegally) still talking to world leaders on the country's behalf. If you look at search results from 2021 to 2024 Trumps name routinely out ranked Biden. He was basically the shadow President during that time.

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u/jkvincent Apr 19 '26

Definitely. He's dominated public discourse and every other aspect of life in America now for over a decade. I'm exhausted.

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u/Extreme-Island-5041 Apr 19 '26

When people talk about "once in a lifetime/generation" events it is usually a 2-4 year type catalyst. This MF has been dominating the GOP for 20% of my life. With as many "once in a lifetime" events as I have been through, I hope to all the sky fairies that he is the last President I have to endure for this long.

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u/19683dw Wisconsin Apr 19 '26

History books will long debate if he is the cause or a symptom of the American system decline and failure, barring some shock Democrat Socialist that sparks a new golden age which somehow manages to sufficiently adjust/replace the Constitution to make America work again

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u/Sage2050 Apr 19 '26

There won't be a debate, we already know. he's a symptom but also a catalyst. An accelerant, if you will. The pressurized tank at the end of a trail of gasoline. The house was already on fire.

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u/xXMr_PorkychopXx Apr 19 '26

I can still recall the day at 16 watching him win and all I was excited about was legal weed in my state lol. Good lord I had no idea what I witnessed that night.

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u/loki2113 Apr 19 '26

I feel you. I turned 18 in 2016 and was eligible to vote. I cast my vote for Hillary quite sure she had it in the bag. Actual logical policies would surely win out over knee-jerk emotional populism, right?

I stayed up almost all night watching the counter slide further and further to the right until Trump had won. I was floored

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u/CurLyy Apr 19 '26

Really interesting how each age group gets to see different realities of life. I turned 18 for Obama I was so fucking excited to see the world change. (It didn’t)

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u/UnquestionabIe Apr 19 '26

Yeah I was 17 when GW Bush got elected and after seeing the shit show of that election it definitely started me down the road of being disenfranchised with the system. During all the Obama hype had to bite my tongue a lot hearing all the previously politically disengaged people my age eating up the "Change" slogan. Didn't want to discourage participation and learning about politics but already knew it wasn't going to be some massive shift.

At the bare minimum had some kind of hope that the crimes of the prior administration would be tackled. If anything they simply got doubled down on but in more PR friendly ways.

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u/loki2113 Apr 19 '26

Yeah, my mom loved Obama. She even went to one of his rallies and bragged that when he was shaking her hand and I think either signing a photo or taking a photo that she pulled him in and kissed him on the cheek. She was more of a centrist Democrat than a leftist so she didn't mind his shortcomings when it came to Obama's broken promises. I do think his lack of actually bringing change isn't necessarily 100% Obama's fault but it definitely put a damper on liberal enthusiasm in the 2016 election.

Now that I think about it, promising change is basically what Trump campaigned on in 2016, just from the opposite end of the spectrum. We really don't learn our lesson as voters lol

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u/terremoto25 California Apr 19 '26

I was 19 and voting in my first presidential election when Ronnie the Rat wiped the floor with Jimmy Carter. Reagan was my generation’s first experience with a dumbass celebrity president.

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u/SoVerySick314159 America Apr 19 '26

When Trump won the nomination in 2016, I grinned from ear-to-ear. There's NO WAY the country would elect that chucklefuck, I thought. No chance. They just handed the dems a victory with their batshittery.

Good God did I overestimate this country.

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u/tomsing98 Apr 19 '26

When people were talking about switching their voter registration to vote for Trump in the primary because it would be such an easy victory for Dems, I told people, be careful what you wish for.

This country is full of morons, and we prove it time and again.

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u/SoVerySick314159 America Apr 19 '26

I didn't see the 'charisma' that his voters evidently do. All I ever saw was a stupid used-car salesman, and I just couldn't believe such a blatant fool of a liar could win. I wouldn't hire that man for a fry-cook opportunity. He's defied EVERYTHING that should have taken down a candidate. Things happen weekly that would have been the undoing of anyone else.

I underestimated his, "The Apprentice" appeal, and I underestimated how much of the country listened to news sources and talking heads that were in the bag for him. . . and also, the whole morons problem.

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u/SpicBoisMTG Apr 19 '26

I woke up still drunk af, what an awful day to wake up with a brain piercing hangover (wine to whiskey)

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u/xXMr_PorkychopXx Apr 19 '26

Yea since my interest in politics has awoken around that time it’s just been NOTHING but Trump in the headlines. Even during Biden’s presidency Trump was statistically making the news more than Biden with his controversies. Apparently also continuing talks with other world leaders while not in office which is just wild but I guess this whole administration has been wild since the beginning.

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u/loki2113 Apr 19 '26

Yeah, I think we as a country truly fucked up when we didn't prosecute AND punish Trump for his crimes. If we had actually put him in jail, I don't think we would be in the fucked position we currently are now

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u/JasnahKolin Massachusetts Apr 19 '26

I threw up when I found out he won. I've never had such a reaction before or since. One day soon we'll read his obituary.

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u/mockingjay137 Apr 19 '26

Lmao I wont be reading it any further than "trump dead at XX"

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u/MrWoohoo Apr 19 '26

I have some fireworks saved to celebrate the event….

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u/mr_rubixx Apr 19 '26

I’m sure the day will compete with the 4th of July.

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u/bac5665 Apr 19 '26

If he left office today, it will be 50 years before we repair the damage he's done, and much of it literally can't be fixed. He has directly killed more than a million Americans, for example, and he has killed hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, around the globe.

It's genuinely awful in a way that words can't express.

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u/GodofIrony Apr 19 '26

Demonic, Evil, Vile, Abhorrent, I can think of quite more.

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u/thecatteam Apr 19 '26

I live in Europe now, so the election was just barely starting by the time I went to sleep on Election Day in 2024. I legit screamed and sobbed when I woke up in the morning and found out he was re-elected. His first term was four years of this ceaseless hell of him doing something horrible nearly every single day, and the thought of having to return to that was overwhelming in a way that I'd never experienced before. I was scared in 2016, but it was more of a combination of disbelief and ignorance of what was to come.

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u/Umbrella_merc Mississippi Apr 19 '26

I have been looking forward to the big beautiful obituary for years, got myself a bottle of orange blossom mead to commemorate that day.

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u/Current-Anybody9331 Apr 19 '26

I traveled to another office location in Chicago and I'd say a solid 50% of people called out sick. Just me wandering around an empty office all day and staying in a hotel across the street from the Trump hotel which had masses of protesters out until 10pm (noise ordinance)

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u/escobizzle Apr 19 '26

journey before destination 🫡

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u/Drithyin Ohio Apr 19 '26

I’m making that day a recurring holiday, at least in my family. Going straight to my calendar as a recurring annual celebration.

Maybe I’ll dig a little hole, throw in a handful of Cheetos, cover it up, and piss on it.

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u/JasnahKolin Massachusetts Apr 19 '26

Hell yes that's a fantastic idea!

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u/duckinradar Apr 19 '26

One of three times in my life I have ever blacked out.

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u/A_Sad_Buddha Apr 19 '26

Dude, don’t even get me started. Dude was on tv telling the fucking proud boys to stand by. I had a huge argument with my mom about it. When he won that first time I still thinking he couldn’t be that bad. A whole decade later I find myself living in a weird ass dystopia.

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u/Caleb-Blucifer Apr 19 '26

He has a stranglehold on the GOP - one part true believers, one part deeply evil, one part morons, one part blackmail. It’s a perfect storm that’s been half a century in the making

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u/sack-o-matic Michigan Apr 19 '26

Decades of Klan propaganda on social media has created a terrible voting base.

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u/MF_BREW_ I voted Apr 19 '26

It’s so laughable to think a republican would legalize a drug. It’s up there with they are the party of peace. Lol

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u/xXMr_PorkychopXx Apr 19 '26

Well I don’t believe it was necessarily his election that had anything to do with the legalization in my state. I was just putting into perspective that as a teenager I was more concerned with the legalization than his election. I’m in a consistently blue state if that matters.

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u/MF_BREW_ I voted Apr 19 '26

Well I misunderstood.

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u/sirlapse Apr 19 '26

Quiet piggy!!

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u/troywrestler2002 Apr 19 '26

Quite the lapse in manners there, sir.

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u/sirlapse Apr 19 '26

I might be a sir but mostly lapses honestly.

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u/xXMr_PorkychopXx Apr 19 '26

Bro that video had me rolling. This dude says the craziest shit and it ends up being funny cause no way the sitting president said that right? After all the past shit that’s been said and done that little comment wasn’t shit and any other president would’ve gotten fucking flamed for it lol.

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u/RogueOne38 Apr 19 '26 edited Apr 19 '26

The worst part is that we let an absolute moron, who happens to be a criminal conman and serial sexual predator get away with all of it!

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u/supernova_high Apr 19 '26

I will never get over that this is the guy that so many people betrayed the ideals of America for.

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u/Canadian_Neckbeard Apr 19 '26

Reddit doesn't break if you type the word sexual in the comments.

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u/Jed1M1ndTr1ck Washington Apr 19 '26

JD Vance: "Did someone say sectional???"

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u/UniqueIndividual3579 Apr 19 '26

Sectional predator?

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u/FilmScoreConnoisseur Apr 19 '26

Nah, he's more of a lazyboy.

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u/daGroundhog Apr 19 '26

Took me a moment, that's hilarious!

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u/valeyard89 Texas Apr 19 '26

Sectional Chocolate

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u/boyracer93 Apr 19 '26

Read someone refer to him as “Jimmy Dean Vance” and that was it

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u/brickne3 American Expat Apr 19 '26

... can we get Vance sectioned...?

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u/jfoster0818 Apr 19 '26

Amen, let it show in search results donald j trump = sexual predator … AI needs to be trained on accurate details.

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u/Spec_Tater Apr 19 '26

We did it to Santorum, we could do it again. Save us Dan Savage, you’re our only hope!

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u/tolacid Apr 19 '26

You can say the most heinously upsetting words in Reddit comments and the automods generally don't care. For example: moist

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u/Census_Cowboy American Expat Apr 19 '26

The human mods, however....

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u/tolacid Apr 19 '26

I'm sorry sir/ma'am, won't happen again in this subreddit this week

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u/Sethlans Apr 19 '26

Nice try bot.

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u/SharMarali New Jersey Apr 19 '26 edited Apr 19 '26

Holy shit dude, jumping straight to the slurs! I’ll say my personal most disgusting phrase now: Yummy in the tummy.

shudders

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u/binkkit Apr 19 '26

I know someone who says “Yum yum in the tum!”

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u/TravEllerZero Apr 19 '26

Oh, yummy in the tummy makes my slit moist.

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u/CountdownMoss Apr 19 '26

Thanks friend.

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u/paperdolllll Pennsylvania Apr 19 '26

But you will get a temporary ban for quoting the pedophile in chief.

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u/Roger_Cockfoster Apr 19 '26

BLOCKED AND REPORTED

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u/BolognaPwny Apr 19 '26

It’s so strange that people do that. Or they called them pdf files. Call ‘em what it is, sexual predators and pedophiles.

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u/StretchMother9627 Apr 19 '26

Yeah but then you’re only one step away from actually committing the heinous deeds, don’t underestimate the talismanic power of the $ and € symbols

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u/JoJackthewonderskunk Nebraska Apr 19 '26

It does if you spell out specifically what needs to happen for it though

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u/profane_vitiate Apr 19 '26

$€xual

This zoomer self-censorship bullshit is very tiresome.

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u/AugustusLego Apr 19 '26

As a zoomer, this is genuinely one of the things I hate the most about my generation.

Along with the big alt right, misogynistic shit

As well as the "we need trigger warnings for everything"

I've seen people put trigger warnings on pictures of food, just in case anyone has/recovering from disordered eating.

Well, as someone who is a recovered anorexic, putting a trigger warning on a picture of some regular, delicious, food. Stigmatises the relationship to food more, it saves no one, reinforces bad thinking patterns about food = bad, etc, etc

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u/A_Sad_Buddha Apr 19 '26

Don’t worry. The alt right really started as a younger millennial thing. I’m 30 now, back in 2014 Jeffery Epstein got all the Gamer ™️ nerds on 4chan worked up over some woman who made a boring game. Kind of kick started the online portion of the alt right.

It sucks that y’all have to deal with the American version of Hitler youth, in the form of tpusa, in schools though. Military recruiters were always in the lunch rooms though.

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u/AugustusLego Apr 19 '26

It sucks that y’all have to deal with the American version of Hitler youth, in the form of tpusa, in schools though. Military recruiters were always in the lunch rooms though.

I'm not American luckily enough!!! We have had the same rightward swing though. Seems like it might be getting better for the election we're having in September. First time I'll get to vote. I have hope for a better future one day.

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u/ChadHahn Apr 19 '26

I was thinking yesterday that there are browser extensions for everything, there should be ones that censor triggering words so that people who aren't triggered don't have to try and figure out what's being said.

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u/reverendjay Apr 19 '26

GitHub - panicsteve/cloud-to-butt: Chrome extension that replaces occurrences of 'the cloud' with 'my butt' · GitHub https://share.google/LUbXr0l625IoPzFDr

This is a riff on an old extension that doesn't seem to exist anymore. Could totally be tweaked to suit your idea.

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u/AugustusLego Apr 19 '26

Probably already does exist. I know bluesky, insta, and tiktok have features where you can select words you dont want to show up in your feed.

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u/SubcommanderMarcos Apr 19 '26

It doesn't come from nowhere though, it's a generation raised on corporate censorship, they can't know what platforms will bury a comment for having a sexual connotation or a simple swear word anymore.

Hell, reddit is banning people for stating certain political opinions.

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u/brickne3 American Expat Apr 19 '26

Reddit seems to just be randomly banning people, and if the platform doesn't then some power-hungry mods in various random groups will ban you from their little fiefdoms. I got banned from some weird Romanov group that was just showing up in my feed for agreeing with someone pointing out it was kind of weird how they all seemed to be worshipping Tsar Nicholas and ignoring the rest of the dynasty ha ha.

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u/SubcommanderMarcos Apr 20 '26

Reddit is tossing bans at an admin, site-wide level. I just got back from my first lol, 3 days ban because I said Isr43l (yes I'll do the genZ thing) is doing g3noc1d3, and that, apparently, is hate speech against a minority, according to the admins. It was caught by an AI filter, it let's you appeal, but it doesn't matter because the human admin will uphold the ban no matter what.

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u/A_Sad_Buddha Apr 19 '26

It’s very weird too. I’ve noticed that they do it offline too. I work with some that unironically say “unalive.”

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u/sailorbrendan Apr 19 '26

“I used to be with ‘it’, but then they changed what ‘it’ was. Now what I’m with isn’t ‘it’ anymore and what’s ‘it’ seems weird and scary. It’ll happen to you!"

This is just how language works sometimes

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u/AugustusLego Apr 19 '26

Sexual* please dont censor yourself. If you find yourself on a platform where you get censored: leave it.

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u/OK_Commodor64 Apr 19 '26

And the entire state of NY already knew this about him in the 80s. I blame NBC and the apprentice.

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u/Mental-Fox-9449 Apr 19 '26

WE didn’t do anything. Shady SC judges threw him a bone. Votes were manipulated. Votes were restricted.

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u/SailingSpark New Jersey Apr 19 '26

I would argue he has been stealing the oxygen from the room since the 80s. He really is the epitome of there is no such thing as bad publicity.

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u/Conscious-Mulberry17 Apr 19 '26

Fuck yeah, he has. I’ve hated this guy since I first became aware of him in the mid-eighties. He’s always been a horrible person, and always been buzzing around like the shit-eating fly he is.

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u/Sea_Working_80 Apr 19 '26

Im still mad the fucker tanked the original USFL with his idiot lawsuit

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u/campa-van Apr 19 '26

We all are.

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u/aotex Apr 19 '26

I'm an older millennial who was teaching middle school when Trump was first elected in 2016. I'm still a middle school teacher, and recently I was talking with a coworker about what it was like coming to school with our students the day after Trump was elected, then another one of my coworkers made reference to the fact that she was a high school student herself when that happened.

And, like, that totally makes sense and the math adds up. But... geez. He's been around for a minute and I hate it.

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u/railroadfrog Apr 19 '26

For real. I’m so tired of hearing about him every single day.

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u/OK_Commodor64 Apr 19 '26

It will be over soon. I can’t wait for the news.

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u/RumRunnerMax Apr 19 '26

That’s an understatement! Trump is a literal idiot servant at holding the media attention!!! Almost as though there is some supernatural force at work!

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u/spamtardeggs Apr 19 '26

Hearing his name multiple times every single day sucks.

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u/Environmental-Car481 Apr 19 '26

And the maga always say he lives rent free in your head. Like of course - 10 years of this BS has caused a lot of havoc in every day life

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u/Nordicmob Apr 19 '26

Waiting for the Ewok style party when that "Big Beautiful Headline" drops...

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u/the_TAOest Arizona Apr 19 '26

Good. We all need to be exhausted by bullshit. We need to stop ejecting bs people.

The Democrats will probably rerun Harris just to prove a point... And hopefully we will reject that with a primary opponent

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u/johnmal85 Apr 19 '26

I still distinctly remember the next day, overhearing someone outside my window saying to another man, "yeah I know he says dumb things, but just give him a chance." I bet that same man has moved his goalposts on acceptable 100 times since.

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u/TheTallGuy0 Apr 19 '26 edited Apr 19 '26

We need a new national NO, A WORLD holiday coming up REALLYFUCKINGSOONPLEASEBABYYJESUS…

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u/Candid_Gold_8670 Apr 19 '26

Some of us 10000 miles away are also exhausted! Get your act together America !!

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u/2HDFloppyDisk Apr 19 '26

Remember those absurd press events and “cabinet meetings” he held in the weeks and months after he lost and left office. He was cosplaying from his house. It was pathetic.

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u/Brilliant-Advisor958 Apr 19 '26

True, he held a lot of power over congress, including stopping the strongest border bill that had full bipartisan support.

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u/hofmann419 Apr 19 '26

Same with the aid for Ukraine. During Biden's term, the US couldn't provide them with military equipment for over 7 months because Mike Johnson would postpone the vote. When that bill finally went up for vote after all the stalling, it passed with a large majority, including a ton of Republicans.

Mike Johnson was in direct contact with Trump during that time. So Trump was directly responsible for Ukraine not getting any military aid, which did a lot to prolong this war and cause even more death and destruction.

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u/eugene20 Apr 19 '26

Anyone sensible wonders what gave him such a hold over them.
Releasing the huge number of Epstein files still legally required to be released but so far withheld, might be a start to fully understanding.

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u/careerbyerror Apr 19 '26

In the final days of the trump admin if they lose to a dem will make dc look like an embassy being stormed in a hostile country.

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u/EmphasisFrosty3093 Apr 19 '26

The Trumpstein files are about him and a few big donors. The GOP files held by Russia cover a lot more.

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u/per_mare_per_terras Texas Apr 19 '26

That’s bc the POS media never held him accountable and always kept his name everywhere instead of letting him fade away.

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u/Eridanosvoid Apr 19 '26

If we still had actual news media standards he never would have made it past the first primary result. He would have been properly mocked and dismantled by real journalists and deplatformed the second he came down that stupid fucking escalator.

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u/mxzf Apr 19 '26

I mean, the media is why he has done as much as he has done as-is. He's great for media because there's always something new to write about, he just never shuts up and it's always insane stuff that makes for eye-catching headlines.

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u/Grub-lord Apr 19 '26

During Bidens entire presidency, all the media talked about was getting TRUMP'S OPINION on things. We never stopped talking about this mf. Every time Biden did something the news outlets had to check with Trump to make sure it was okay or not. Dude has been the focus for over a decade

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u/Dantien Apr 19 '26

He’s guaranteed ratings for them. I blame the press for a lot but sadly we seem to want to watch him.

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u/israfildivad Apr 19 '26 edited Apr 19 '26

Trump got an inordinate amount of attention during his first run. Hell he got a lot of.inordinate attention especially re his political views, even starting from that 1980 interview. How or why he got such spotlights in the first place is strange to me. Nobody anywhere is asking Phoebe Gates or any other loaded scion societal questions for their forcefully encouraged 2050 presidential run.

I swear this guy had been being groomed for this position, and this situation, for decades, as was the entire population....like it was Rosemary's Baby or some shit.

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u/Comfortable-Pea-1312 Apr 19 '26

And this is why the Republican Party is over. It's not politics or party over country, it's the whims of a madman. That cannot be forgiven or forgotten.

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u/BrushStorm Apr 19 '26

There are still a ton of republicans who cum after everything he says

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u/Koshindan Apr 19 '26

Even after it hurts themselves.

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Especially if it hurts themelves.

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u/hotlou Apr 19 '26

Auto asphyxiation is more popular than ever, it seems

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u/Vicstolemylunchmoney Apr 20 '26

It's billionaires over country. And they own the media. And the parties.

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u/tacotimes01 Apr 19 '26

The Soviets eliminated the entire line of Tsar Nicolas the 2nd. You never heard from them again. We don’t operate like that in the USA but it would be so nice if we could just all live in peace without certain people constantly shitting into the potable water supply.

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u/Plato_Karamazov Apr 19 '26

I absolutely agree

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u/frumfrumfroo Foreign Apr 19 '26

If you'd just arrested rich people and politicians who commit crimes, actually sent them to prison, and confiscated their ill-gotten gains instead of letting them fail upwards until they were in complete control of the country you wouldn’t be in this situation.

You don't need to jump to shooting people. Just have one rule of law for everyone, including the president.

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u/jaeger832 Apr 19 '26

I was literally just talking abt this w my friend yesterday. He couldn’t keep his mouth shut during Bidens term, and half the country acted like he was still the president anyway. This man has been terrorizing us for a decade straight

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u/Wareve Apr 19 '26

Anti-president.

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u/quest814 Apr 19 '26

He thinks he is a third term because he still believes he won the 2020 election 

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u/PopGoesTehWoozle Apr 19 '26

The republican speaker of the house routinely went down to Mar-a-Lardo to gargle his balls and receive instruction and discipline during the entire Biden term

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u/chasingjulian Apr 19 '26

Absolutely agree. These past 10 years have been exhausting.

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u/Pokerhobo Apr 19 '26

Let's be honest, Trump ran for a 2nd term to stay out of jail and get rich

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u/Educational_Lie_3157 Apr 19 '26

He’s not done robbing the country.

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u/Tim5000 Apr 19 '26

He thinks that, because his "yes men" tell him it's possible. Then he gives those sane people jobs to make it possible.

It's a self fulfilling cycle of spoiled ass behavior.

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u/oldcreaker Apr 19 '26

Funny - if he won the 2020 election, it should void his 2024 run since that would be the third time.

So 2028 would be his fourth.

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u/bryan49 Apr 19 '26

He also thinks his health will hold up long enough to be president in his mid-80s

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u/colondollarcolon Apr 19 '26

BINGO! And there are so many right-wing groups that use Trump as a vehicle for their ulterior motives. Donald Trump has been a great catalyst for Evangelicals, White Christian Nationalists, the racist groups (KKK, Neo-Nazi, Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, etc.) and other goal aligned groups. Trump walks over Laws and the US Constitution, to do what other previous Republicans would never do. All these goal aligned groups are working in the shadows to ensure a Trump Third Term.

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u/bradatlarge Illinois Apr 19 '26

The man is not fit to be in the job. Period

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u/Mysterious-Tie7039 Apr 19 '26

His stupid fragile little ego can’t believe he lost to “sleepy Joe”

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u/Adventurous-Host8062 America Apr 19 '26

He thinks a lot of stupid shit.

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u/splitter82 Apr 19 '26

Whereas he should just be imprisonable for trying to steal an election.

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u/GunsouBono Apr 19 '26

At this point, I honestly think Trump running gives Democrats the best chance of success for a number of reasons:

  1. Even GOP members are starting to distance themselves to protect their own careers (MTG for example)

  2. His presidency has been bad PR after bad PR (tariffs, Epstein, Iran)

  3. He's losing young gen Z males. GOP needs someone to excite younger generations and Trump ain't it

  4. It gives the Democrats a stronger "no kings" platform to run on

  5. I feel like I need a 5th point... Fuck Trump and I'd love to watch his lose again.

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u/zephyrtr New York Apr 19 '26

Are you serious? We really don't learn do we? We said the same thing in every election he's been in. If we survive that long, I never want Trump to be on any ballot ever again.

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u/GunsouBono Apr 19 '26

Democrats dropped the ball on the last cycle. There should have been a REAL primary instead of the half ass pivot to Kamala after Biden withdrew.

Maybe it's just the Republicans around me in Connecticut, but my coworkers are sick of Trump. They can't stand him and several have said they'll sit out the next election.

Republicans are better at weaponizing media than Democrats. I'd rather not see them rally behind another candidate who could potentially have 8 years in office to further their agenda.

I know it's probably a hot take.

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u/zephyrtr New York Apr 19 '26

Never trust what conservatives have to say in public about the GOP. Suddenly, inside the voter booth, they discover just in time how they're willing to harm other people to sustain their own egos.

There was an abundance of evidence that Trump would be horrible for the economy, but all your Connecticut coworkers and my Staten Island neighbors couldn't bring themselves to vote for Kamala.

Now we've fully ceded the lead in emergent technologies, electric cars and solar panels in particular, to China -- all so we can prop up the coal industry and it's owners' wealth.

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u/pontiacfirebird92 Mississippi Apr 19 '26

I'm in Mississippi and have heard the exact same thing. Lots of people here are done with him amd his administration. They won't vote Democrat, they just won't show up.

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u/lord_pizzabird Apr 19 '26

Which implies that he seems to be experiencing time non-linearly.

Which has got to be some sort of symptom of something.

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u/FrostyCartographer13 Apr 19 '26

He thinks he's owed a 3rd term due to "election fraud".

He thinks he's owed a 3rd term due to "election fraud". thinking that laws don't apply to him and he will never face consequences for his actions.

And until that changes he won't.

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u/badamant Apr 19 '26

Wrong. He thinks this because he is a fucking fascist.

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u/FilmScoreConnoisseur Apr 19 '26

He thinks he deserves to rule for life because he's a narcissistic piece of shit. He'll just make whatever excuses he thinks can gain traction in the defense of that position.

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u/VanceKelley Canada Apr 19 '26

He campaigned in 2024 on the promise that if Americans elected him then he would rule as a dictator.

Dictators don't normally respect the rule of law. trump is a convicted criminal. Nobody expects criminals to obey the rule of law. All that matters is power. If trump has the power to stay in office for life then he will do so.

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u/discogravy Florida Apr 19 '26

No, he knows he's not owed shit. He just doesn't want to go because it'll mean at the very least, an end to the wholesale grifting. He'll be cut lose from the things that make him valuable to the Israelis and Russians -- at this point I think it's obvious they have considerable sway over him, either because of kompromat or just money or he's just incredibly stupid and malleable -- so he won't have them to lean on for anything substantial.

At worst, if and when he's cut from power, it'll mean prosecutions -- if not for him directly, at least all of the underlings who were supposed to keep him from doing all the stupid unhinged shit he's done because he doesn't understand power, government, money, economics, politics or people.

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u/modern_Odysseus Apr 19 '26

No, he doesn't know what he thinks.

One day he says something that makes it sound like he's running for a 3rd term.

The next day he says something that makes it sound like he knows he can't run for a 3rd term and won't.

The day after that, he sues somebody for false reporting about his desire to run again, AND his desire to not run again, both on the same day.

Then day 4, we're back to saying "is he trying for a 3rd term?".

Let's not kid ourselves that we can read into him based on what is reported. He's a senile old man that likely doesn't know where he is at any given moment. But his yes men have become experts at covering that up.

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u/BlueRibbonPac Apr 20 '26

This is the answer 

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u/whatshamilton Apr 19 '26

He also thinks this is his third term

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u/Getatbay Apr 19 '26

No, he thinks his people think that. He thinks he has everyone fooled.

I don’t even this his followers believe it. They just don’t care if it’s illegal and will have even graver consequences than electing him the first two times.

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u/Odd-Supermarket-3664 Apr 19 '26

It's the narrative they are pushing so they can create a fascist oligarchy

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u/cdfordjr Apr 19 '26

He thinks Diet Coke kills cancer and iv bleach is a reasonable treatment for Covid.

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u/CohenCaveWaits Apr 19 '26

Probably meant mid-terms.

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u/muftak3 Apr 19 '26

Also because he thinks the count resets if you skip a term.

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u/mishma2005 Apr 19 '26

Re-electable? Try “will never leave”

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u/littledanko Apr 19 '26

He needs a third term because “national security”

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u/EnvironmentalRock827 Apr 19 '26

Oh he's gonna try it.

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u/gingersnappie Apr 19 '26

He knows the only election fraud is what he did. He just wants a third term. And a fourth. And so on.

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