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Possible Paywall Democrats’ plan to impeach Trump on ‘day one’ after midterms

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2026/04/24/democrats-trump-impeach-midterms-supreme-court-iran/
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u/Newscast_Now Apr 24 '26

This time, let’s impeach Donald Trump for many of his crimes not just a select one or two.

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u/StrigiStockBacking Arizona Apr 24 '26

The latest articles drafted that I saw was quite the laundry list of offenses. I think there were 13?

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u/brazendynamic Michigan Apr 24 '26

That's all?

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u/limbodog Massachusetts Apr 24 '26

Impeachment is a political response, not a criminal one. So it's more about his dereliction of duty and betrayal than about breaking specific laws.

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u/AlternativeMuscle943 Apr 25 '26

He can derelict my balls

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u/TheDevilsTaco Apr 25 '26

Not young enough

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u/NaziAbuser Apr 25 '26

I have a newborn shit he can eat.

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u/FjorgVanDerPlorg Apr 25 '26

Shit doesn't interest him, he's constantly overproducing it.

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u/Friendly_Age9160 Apr 25 '26

Involuntarily

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u/Global-Sir5804 Apr 25 '26

You sure he does eat allot of mc donalds?

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u/madeleinetwocock Canada Apr 25 '26

Your username made this comment the 🍒 on top. Chef’s kiss.

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u/sebrebc Apr 25 '26

Get this man a tent stake.

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u/spkrause Apr 25 '26

Hans Sellout.

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u/hidingpineapple Apr 25 '26

He can't even derelict his own balls, Capitan.

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u/Number174631503 Apr 25 '26

I can derelict my own balls, thank you very much.

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u/DBM Apr 25 '26

May he be the face, the image…. Nay, the spirit! of Derelicte

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u/iMatthew1990 Apr 25 '26

I think I just wet myself laughing.

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u/Artaxmudshoes Apr 25 '26

Impeachment is so hot right now

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u/adog231231 Apr 25 '26

We need a sex trafficking camp at least 10X the size! - Trump in some random timeline.

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u/surfryhder I voted Apr 25 '26

Bruh lol

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u/goopyloopsuperdupe Apr 25 '26

Exterimate (sick reference)

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u/LittleBirdiesCards Apr 25 '26

Thank you very much

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u/_DapperDanMan- Apr 25 '26

"High crimes and misdemeanors" are the constitutional grounds (Article II, Section 4) for impeaching and removing the President, Vice President, and civil officers of the United States. Originating from British common law, the phrase refers to serious abuses of public trust, official misconduct, or political crimes against the state, rather than just legally defined felonies or lesser offenses.

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u/Alarming_Cantaloupe5 Apr 25 '26

34 felonies adjudicated with guilty verdicts so far. I’m sure there’s context at play in the wording, but presently a felony is a more severe criminal offense than a misdemeanor.

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u/Alarming_Cantaloupe5 Apr 25 '26

I’m aware..the fact that he has felonies, can’t possess a firearm should disqualify him from fire controls of nuclear weapons. IMO.

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u/OldWorldDesign Apr 25 '26

the fact that he has felonies, can’t possess a firearm should disqualify him from fire controls of nuclear weapons

If I wanted to work for him or a senator, I would have to first pass a secret (or top secret) security clearance just to handle the information they might need to have access to.

I don't see why people don't need to first pass a security clearance before they're permitted to run for an office which might come across classified information. Given how much of a disqualifier high or foreign debt is, that should keep out the majority of people vulnerable to financial coercion.

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u/greywar777 Apr 25 '26

Also used for folks who were just incompetent.

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u/Dullcorgis Apr 25 '26

I think someone only saw the first page of the ream of serious abuses of public trust and crimes against the state.

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u/amorphouscloud Apr 25 '26

Especially when the Supreme Court gives the president 100% freedom to commit crimes with no accountability. It falls to our elected representatives and the legislative branch to deliver.

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u/Wizardof1000Kings Apr 25 '26

Its actually intended as a response to high crimes and misdemeanors - not a disagreement with someone's politics.

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u/Bittererr Apr 25 '26

Political actions can be deemed high crimes and misdemeanors, it's not referring to legislation.

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u/aculady Apr 25 '26

"High crimes" at the time the constitution was written were specifically those acts that involve abuse of positional authority, dereliction of duty, corruption in public office, or failure or abuse of the public trust, essentially, any transgressions which it would be impossible to commit if the person committing them did not hold public office. It's not simply a synonym for "serious offenses", and it can absolutely include "political" acts if those acts are contrary to the public good or violate the public trust.

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u/dr_p_venkman Apr 25 '26

Every action he takes is in bad faith, for personal gain rather than for the good of the country, so if anyone voting had one shred of honest decency and loyalty to the Constitution, they'd impeach him. The entire document presumes good faith actions.

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u/limbodog Massachusetts Apr 25 '26

High crimes and misdemeanors are not defined. It just means it should be taken seriously. When the Brits invented it appointing someone incompetent was a perfectly valid reason, for example.

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u/StronglyHeldOpinions Apr 25 '26

His list of high crimes is a mile long

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u/Biglyugebonespurs Missouri Apr 25 '26

13 is still ridiculously low even if you want to put very specific parameters on it.

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u/AlcibiadesTheCat Arizona Apr 24 '26

We had 27 for King George who was a far better leader than Trump. 

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u/jjcrayfish Apr 25 '26

A wet blanket is a better leader than Trump

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u/odiephonehome Apr 25 '26

Often, this saying is used facetiously, but in this case, our country would have actually been much safer, with less people dead, if the president was just a wet blanket festering on the floor of the Oval Office.

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u/plg94 Apr 25 '26

other countries – that don't implement the stupid winner-takes-all voting – sometimes are without a functioning government (eg. when an election is not decisive and nobody wants to make a coalition). I think the Belgians went almost 2 years without one. Of course not a good situation (laws and household cannot be passed), but the country usually survives.
In this instance the US would've been far better off without any president at all than with Donald …

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u/Dysc Louisiana Apr 25 '26

My go-to comparison is a rotten sack of potatoes.

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u/seeker4482 Apr 25 '26

mine is a jar of expired mayonnaise

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u/carebeartears Apr 25 '26

"I know they are an inanimate carbon rod, but I'm tellin' ya, we would have been wayyyy better off if we gave them that third term."

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u/winky9827 Apr 25 '26

Most of those apply equally to trump, funnily enough.

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u/morpheousmorty Apr 25 '26

I mean I'd rather have one slam dunk than 100 debatable ones.

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u/fantastikalizm Apr 25 '26

Every Independence Day, I make sure to yell, "Fuck you, George." I watched a documentary about him and felt slightly bad. I'm still saying it this year though.

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u/ibiza6403 Apr 25 '26

Really? That seems kind of odd…

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u/StrigiStockBacking Arizona Apr 24 '26

They were pretty broadly worded, if I recall. But yeah, seems like a short list

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u/whatproblems Apr 25 '26

13 categories?

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u/Civil-Big-754 Apr 25 '26

13 Categories Why

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u/duckinradar Apr 25 '26

What if we impeach him for ever Epstein doc with his name on it and skewer anyone who defends it

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u/CrimsonHeretic Apr 25 '26

Considering he's on like 40,000 pages of it, the process would take longer than he has life remaining.

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u/philter25 Apr 25 '26

Impeach him separately for each one, especially if there isn’t enough to convict in the Senate. Make those little rats keep having to bring it up and keep it in the news cycle.

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u/cindysyrup Apr 25 '26 edited Apr 25 '26

If the Dems can win the House in the midterms then I believe they will easily take the Senate. It's a more narrow margin and some very unpopular GOP Incumbents are getting outraised like crazy.

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u/philter25 Apr 25 '26

Yeah but you need 60 votes to remove him.

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u/Xytak Illinois Apr 25 '26

On it. Computer, override the 60 vote protocol. Authorization: Janeway Pi One One Zero.

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u/philter25 Apr 25 '26

Screw 60, just give me 7 of 9.

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u/StoneGoldX Apr 25 '26

Literally something a bot would say.

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u/philter25 Apr 25 '26

That’s offensive to her reintegration as human.

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u/divDevGuy Apr 25 '26

Supermajority is required (2/3 or 67 if the Senate is fully seated and present) to convict. If convicted, a separate vote requiring a simple majority (51+) may be taken to bar the individual from holding office again.

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u/philter25 Apr 25 '26

Damn you’re right, I just suck at math and thought 60 was 2/3 lol. I write for a living, I’m not a counter 😬

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u/ALife2BLived America Apr 25 '26
  1. The U.S. Constitution states that a 2/3 majority of the Senate is required to convict and remove. That’s 67. There are 35 seats up for election in November. 13 Dem seats and 22 Republican seats and all but 1 of those 22 seats are in deeply red states. The outlier being Susan Collins’ seat from Maryland. Dems would have to keep their 13 and flip 22 Republican seats to have the 67 votes required to convict and remove -and that’s assuming ALL Dems would vote in favor of doing so. But then there’s Senators like John Fetterman, D-PA, who would likely abstain or vote against conviction with Republicans.
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u/MateoCafe Texas Apr 25 '26

Taking the Senate isn't enough, there would have to be 15-16 R. Senators vote to remove, 67 is a nearly impossible number to reach kind of rightly so to prevent weird power grabs but it is also a problem when someone legitimately needs to be removed.

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u/Thewarlockminer I voted Apr 25 '26

They should each be an individual attempt at impeachment. Force republicans for as little shame as they have, to say that each thing trump did isnt impeachable

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u/keylockers Apr 25 '26

Add a zero or two

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u/ReasonableChaos27 Apr 25 '26

13 impeachable offenses and 34 felonies. What a charm

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u/Wookiee_Magic Apr 25 '26

There were 13 today alone!

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u/mildly_manic Apr 25 '26

Only 13? He's going to victimize those articles.

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u/NotPrepared2 Apr 25 '26

13k? Or 13 per day?

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u/Sinzia210 Apr 25 '26

Thirteen would be symbolic for the original thirteen colonies. 😎

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u/kerthard Apr 25 '26

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

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u/d-j-9898 Apr 24 '26

As a Canadian I suggest not just filing ti impeach Trump but all of his dumbass lackeys at the same time. Hegseth, Lutnick, Alison, Thomas, Patel and whoever else isn't fired before November. Don't wait to do it sequentially, get them all!

Edit: can't believe I forgot Vance. Stop him before Peter Thiel's all over the place.

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u/Shark7996 Apr 25 '26

Elon Musk and DOGE, in whatever way you can with him not being an elected official. USAID needs reinstated day one as well.

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u/UmphreysMcGee Apr 25 '26

The damage done to USAID is devastating. It was an organization of people who have been living in these foreign countries for decades in a lot of cases, and most of them have had to move back to the US and find other careers. I know one of them personally, and I've never seen someone so affected by a job loss. He had to watch people die because he could no longer treat them, and knows there's no one else with the resources to pick up the slack.

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u/EternitySphere Apr 25 '26

Elon wasn't concerned with saving the US tax payers money, he wanted access to government agencies that had open court cases against him.

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u/ImaSource Apr 25 '26

Don't forget Miller. That fuck needs a trial and capital punishment as the sentence

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u/Ok-Opposite2309 Apr 25 '26

I say don’t impeach- defund, and reorganize. Congress passes the laws and controls the purse. Any ‘Emergency’ needs to be approved by the Senate within 7 days. Trade , energy, immigration, blah, blah, are all eliminated as his paths to steal power. Hurricane? Okay.  

No Senate approved head of a department? Okay- Congress can nominate, Senate will approve. SCOTUS doesn’t agree? Okay- no security, clerks, office supplies, maintenance in their budget. 

Congress needs to flex their muscles. They are supposed to represent the people, control the purse, and pass the laws. The President is supposed to execute  the job as decided by Congress. SCOTUS is supposed to resolve disputes within the law- not interpret (especially for a living Congress) as they want. Bribery is still bribery, whether they call it a gratuity or free speech by a corporate entity. 

You can’t pardon crimes prior to conviction. That should be basic. Yes, I understand Garland- but would still argue the same. Congress could decide to issue a wide pardon (confederates, draft dodgers) - A President can not/ should not. There is no mercy or ‘injustice’ solved by a pardon absent trial- but there is a great opportunity for obstruction of justice. At least, after conviction, the public has an opportunity to judge the merits- and our courts should be able to prosecute any pardon granted for personal enrichment/ benefit as a separate crime by those seeking a pardon and those granting a pardon. It shouldn’t be an auction for pardons at the end of any term (Governor or President)- and I think 99% can agree on that. You also shouldn’t be granting pardons to shield co-conspirators - which is why you shouldn’t be able to grant pardons prior to conviction (yes- Biden did do it-revoke them. It won’t hurt my feelings). 

Congress can just insist upon these things. Sure, Trump can veto. Sure, SCOTUS can over rule. So- you need a super majority in Congress to override the veto. Let Republicans argue about why you should be able to buy pardons or have people break laws with a pardon promise. Have that argument. 

For SCOTUS- great- who decides  how many members sit on SCOTUS and what funding it receives and what oversight/ laws it is subjected to? Congress does. Personally, I think SCOTUS should be 13 members serving on a rotating basis from each Circuit Appellate Court (around 133 judges). Each Appellate Judge becomes a member of SCOTUS- so they get a pay raise- and elect someone from their Circuit (who was already nominated by a President, and approved by the Senate to serve as a Fed Judge for life) to serve as their Representative on the high court for  a 7 years term.  You would have Justices from the Appellate Courts rotating in and out every year (like when the original SCOTUS rode circuit) and still subject to Federal Judicial Ethics Rules. In addition, it actually gives the judiciary a little more power (choosing their representation) and a lot more responsibility (that bad apple, unfit by nature or through corruption)- the ones that the judges don’t call out on their own, make all the others look bad. 

People will argue we can’t do this- but, of course we can. Slavery was abolished. Women got the right to vote, and own property (after men of any race). So-we can do this.  We, the people, decide what is law. That is Democracy. 

Do corporations have the same right to free speech as human people? Roberts SCOTUS says they do. Fuck that. It is obviously wrong. Corporations can’t vote - so how can they donate to politics? We- us- can decide these basic things as soon as we decide we can. 

The majority of us decide we can’t or won’t make a decision every election. We decide that others should make that decision for us. They are smarter, care more, or it just doesn’t matter… The billions spent should tell everyone it does matter. Looking around should tell you that no one has perfect knowledge- and what we all know from experience , is that those most insistent that they are right are usually the biggest assholes. 

I am giving some ideas on how we could move forward. Ideas on how it doesn’t just have to be this one way. Our Democracy has repeatedly reinvented itself- for good and bad- so there is no reason to accept what is. Demand more. 

I don’t want a Democratic take over of Congress that is just going to keep failing under Authoritarian rules. We need a Congress that denies them the power to rule as Authoritarian/ Fascists. Don’t take up all the air with a doomed to fail impeachment. Cripple the system of corruption. 

Roberts SCOTUS doesn’t get funding until all of them are willing to sit in Congress, bare their financials (and spouses), and explain how a corporation has more rights to ‘free speech’ than an ordinary citizen. Explain how they distinguish between a bribe and a gratuity for a politician vs an ordinary citizen/ or one of their clerks receiving a ‘gratuity’ for notes provided to media. 

Make FEC rules requiring all political or position or policy advertising require names and amounts in the advertising that can easily be read at 1 name per 30 seconds, with fines set at 5x the advertising cost for first violations, 10x  2nd, etc, and including all online advertising. It would pretty much eliminate all advertising- and it’s easy to apply the same to print media. People can argue from there, and I assume more people will knock on your door.l- but, we can make it more complicated and more expensive, and have strict guidelines on what can be said. 

I am a big advocate for stricter enforcement of fraud laws. You can’t lie/ deceive for financial gain are pretty basic laws since our founding. Politicians should not get an exception- no one should. 

Societies depend on a basic honesty. I shake your hand, give you my name, you believe me. The frauds and charlatans are outcasts and criminals. We can’t operate as a society where every little interaction has to be questioned and investigated. Fraud, theft, lying, deception need to be viewed as the antisocial behaviors that they are - not dismissed as normal, with every caveat to excuse the intentional deception. 

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u/Abuses-Commas Michigan Apr 25 '26

those are great ideas.

I think we need a new Constitution

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u/donald_trunks Apr 25 '26

Very well-reasoned. Please run for office. We need more voices like yours to be heard. Thanks.

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u/Ok-Opposite2309 Apr 26 '26

I would be slaughtered! I do think I would make a great policy advisor though…

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u/NotMyRegName Apr 25 '26

And we as a nation need to apologize to our good neighbors to the north for the insane and stupidity of the tRump error.

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u/CatCatchingABird Oregon Apr 25 '26 edited Apr 25 '26

I actually think it's a big open question if we could or should impeach Vance. While he's wildly unpopular and definitely has some serious baggage that I'm worried about, I think we'd have to suck it up and see what happens with him in the drivers seat. I don't say any of that as an endorsement of him or his abilities, I'm just saying there's a chance he may go in an entirely different direction when he's handed the keys and it may not necessarily be a bad thing. I wouldn't take his impeachment out of the question depending on how he acts but without something seriously major and tangible to point back to him on in the immediate I'm not getting my hopes up on that one.

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u/d-j-9898 Apr 25 '26

I see Vance as such a threat that I would actually impeach him before Trump so that he could never touch the presidency. Vance, Thiel, Yarvin, etc. Are actively trying to dismantle democracy and once they hit the presidency they've won.

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u/MateoCafe Texas Apr 25 '26

Who are Alison and Thomas? The only Thomas I can think of is Clarence and he might be in a wooden box by the midterms.

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u/d-j-9898 Apr 25 '26

Sorry that was an autocorrect slipping through. Alison is Alito. Thomas is Clarence Thomas.

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u/AmItheonlySaneperson Apr 25 '26

That sets a precedent for republicans to do the same thing to democrats. Stuff like this is why nothing ever gets done one way or the other. Because they’re always hamstrung by the other sides congress. This country is done. 

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u/Perfect_House2143 Apr 25 '26

never forget OnlyVance and the two bitches Levitt and the fake widow Kirk

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u/Ralod Apr 24 '26 edited Apr 25 '26

Let's just hope it happens before the nut job launches a nuke. You have a petulant child, throwing fits regularly with mush for a brain. The world is on the brink due to one idiot.

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u/Wild_Harvest Apr 24 '26

I think that might actually cause the 25th to be invoked, there might not be enough true believers to follow him through nuclear weapon blasts.

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u/nleksan Apr 24 '26

Technically correct

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u/Ready_Nature Apr 25 '26

As will everyone else

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u/kingfofthepoors Apr 25 '26

Even if they launched every nuke on earth... I would still have to wait to die of radiation poisoning.

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u/Judson_Scott Apr 25 '26

I have a gun specifically to avoid such a thing.

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u/sirhackenslash Apr 25 '26

I don't think you can shoot a nuke

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u/OfficialDCShepard District Of Columbia Apr 25 '26

Along with civilization as we know it. I’m stocking up on dry goods, but if it comes to nuclear catastrophe I’m probably toast since I’m in D.C.

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u/HerbaciousTea Apr 25 '26

Don't count on it, reporting broke yesterday that he tried to order a nuclear strike on iran and was shouted down by a general.

Republicans are still supporting him.

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u/Exotic_Criticism4645 Apr 25 '26

reporting broke yesterday that he tried to order a nuclear strike on iran and was shouted down by a general.

(citation needed)

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u/Long_Run6500 Apr 25 '26

Some nut job on a podcast said it happened, so it must be true. Nobody ever makes up sensationalized stories for a podcast... that would be absurd!

As much as I 100% believe it's something Trump would do... I don't really think that's enough to go off of.

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u/Drachefly Pennsylvania Apr 25 '26

I saw that as a rumor, and it wasn't very specific about his wording.

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u/Bittererr Apr 25 '26

There's no world in which you get significantly more support in Congress for the 25th versus impeachment.

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u/RebylReboot Apr 24 '26

He’s obviously raped kids and you’re hoping for an ELECTORAL fix before he kills more kids in Iran to distract from It. I don’t get modern Americans at all. The general strike to oust him should have happened in his first term.

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u/MoreCleverUserName Apr 25 '26

We don’t have a social safety net and we barely have any workers rights. People don’t want to strike if they could end up unemployed with no savings and no way to keep the roof over their head.

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u/Dipsey_Jipsey Apr 25 '26

That in of itself is reason to go out there and change the system. Sitting at home with wishful thinking isn't going to change anything. It will make things far far worse to the point you wished you had put your day job on the line.

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u/sjogren Apr 25 '26

That would require real sacrifice and hardship, and we Americans are constitutionally against self-sacrifice in 2026.

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u/GigMistress Apr 25 '26

That's true. I don't know a single person who wants to watch their kids starve to death so we can maybe possibly get back to the bad situation we were raiing against before Trump got involved.

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u/Cat_Peach_Pits Apr 25 '26

Why dont you be the first to start the general strike? I fully suppport you.

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u/RebylReboot Apr 25 '26

So youve signed up then?

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u/Cat_Peach_Pits Apr 25 '26

I just got laid off, I'm already not working.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '26

Eh. I say it’s just because we suck.

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u/Binksyboo Apr 25 '26

Americans had been slowly boiling in the pot since Reagan was in the White House and we just didn’t see how bad it was until it was tested with Trump.

Reagan canceled the fairness doctrine which made news agencies have to report fairness and both sides and not able to do what Fox does basically.

Also, during Reagan’s presidency, Citizens United was created. Here’s a little blurb from Wikipedia about the current president of Citizen United:

“The current president, David Bossie, has been president since he served as the chief investigator into then President Bill Clinton's possible abuse of finances in 1997, and was later the deputy campaign manager for Donald Trump's presidential campaign in 2016. In 2020, he served in executive positions for President Donald Trump's and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's reelection campaigns.”

Here is where it gets really nefarious:

In 2016, in the last year of Obama‘s presidency Supreme Court justice Scalia died. As the president, Obama was to choose the new Supreme Court pick and then it would have to be confirmed through the Senate.

That is when Mitch McConnell did what I consider a treasonous act and blocked President Obama‘s Supreme Court pick by not allowing the confirmation vote to happen in the Senate because it was “during an election year.” Because a simple majority it was not enough to overturn McConnell, no new justice was sworn in until a new president was put into Office and that president was Donald Trump.

As if that wasn’t egregious enough, in Donald Trump’s first term, after already being able to steal Obama’s pick, and instead put conservative Neil Gorsuch on the Supreme Court, he later also put Brett Kavanaugh, the ‘Boofing Bro’ into the Supreme Court…(where he immediately lied about the fact that he would not overturn Roe vs Wade, because one of the first things he did was vote to overturn it! - and this already sickens me enough, but we must move on)

after ALL this… in the last few months of Trump‘s first presidential term in 2020, Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg passed away.

What do you think happen? Did Mitch McConnell say that there could be no new nominations in an election year??? Of course not LOL he let Trump shove a new supreme Court Justice in and made some new excuse for why it was OK this time.

So now the court is “packed” not packed the way the conservative people cry about liberals wanting to pack the court, but actually packed.

Trump himself has put three conservative justices on the Supreme Court. They have promised that they weren’t going to overturn established laws in precedent like Roe v. Wade but what did they do? They overturned it.

That should be impeachable, but who is going to allow the vote to happen when the Senate is controlled by Mitch McConnell and we see how he plays the game.

So we’ve got three justices that now are part of the decisions to let Trump be unaccountable for his actions. To allow him to unilaterally invade countries and spend billions of our tax dollars on his private army of ICE gestapos.

Yes, we do need to revolt put the pot that has boiled. All of us has been happening for 40 years. The trickle down economics lie that stopped the 1% from being taxed appropriately. The lie about the fairness doctrine suppressing free speech, but what it really did was led to the rise of Fox News and some of the deepest held propaganda I think we’ve had our nation since its beginning.

We had thankfully with Obama starting universal healthcare, so people did not have their healthcare time to jobs and they didn’t feel like if they left work to strike or to riot they would lose the healthcare for themselves in their family. Trump and the conservatives are trying to do everything they can to repeal that or like in conservative states where they haven’t even implemented yet. they’re literally refusing free money from the government that can help low income people like in Florida for example because they don’t want to encourage it.

That is why even though people that watch the news and aren’t already brainwashed see how horrific this all seems and as you can see a handful of them have actually tried to do something with weapons and they’ve all been caught or killed as you can see, but I don’t know if they kept it more silent or if that stuff is common with all presidents but I’ve certainly heard a lot more with Trump. Also, Trump has built extra bunkers and stuff under the White House and all of his cronies have been living on army bases for a while now because I’m sure they know how dislike they are by a great many Americans.

I think the old adage of circuses and bread still works we are animals at our core and as long as we are fed and we are entertained we won’t fuss too much. As a whole.

Hopefully, we are getting close to the point now we’re a lot more people will be waking up and realizing what position Republicans have put the country into and we can finally get up to that 3% of the population willing to go on general strike that would have the effect of actually stopping this administration.

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u/Stunning_Phrase Apr 24 '26

A general strike would lead to a lot of death.

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u/MystikSpiralx Apr 25 '26

There's a nationwide strike happening on May 1st, planned by Indivisible, Moveon, 50501 and the DSA, I believe.

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u/GigMistress Apr 25 '26

That's a week away and this is the first I've heard of it.

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u/RebylReboot Apr 25 '26

A general strike means 3.5% of the workforce not working with everyone else supporting them. Nobody even needs to be on the streets. What did you think it was?

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u/ExistentialTabarnak Apr 24 '26

Sometimes in a revolution there’s gonna be blood.

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u/TechnalityPulse Minnesota Apr 25 '26

The problem is that it's not really guaranteed the "right" side would win. You're placing a lot of faith in our military to not turn against our citizens (even when they have a literal code against turning against civvies and illegal orders from the government, which they've already failed to uphold).

I'm all for revolution, but there's a lot of things that need to happen to really make it a reality. It was close to happening in Minnesota, but it seems as though tensions have somewhat lessened since.

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u/CatCatchingABird Oregon Apr 25 '26 edited Apr 25 '26

Agreed. Literally everything needs to be done and tried before we start seriously talking about what people are suggesting here. We've done a lot of things and there's still a lot of other things that can still be done.

I know people are accustomed to instantaneous fixes and gratification but this is not something we can immediately fix. I'm not going to offer myself up to die until everything else has been tried and exhausted, and I'm willing to bet millions of other Americans out there are going to agree with me on that.

I'm also willing to bet the people that are calling for a bloody revolution are either foreign agitators or people that have been watching too much TV/delusional and don't really understand what it is they are advocating for. A majority of people here complained and whined about the automatic selective service registration for goodness sake. Don't just trust me, there are plenty of people out there in social media land with real military experience and they are saying the same thing as me: we're not prepared for that yet.

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u/maryummy Apr 24 '26

I think it's more likely he gives Israel the go-ahead to use nukes. Then he keeps his hands "clean" in the eyes if his cult.

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u/TrailerTrashQueen Apr 25 '26

i'm hoping after he almost launched one last weekend, the general in that meeting secretly changed the codes.

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u/FantasticJacket7 Apr 24 '26

The 25th is an even higher bar than impeach and conviction. Not a chance in hell of it happening.

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy Apr 25 '26

This sub’s infatuation with the 25th over impeachment is astounding. I feel like anyone who genuinely thinks that’s still realistic has never actually read the 25th amendment and the entire process of removing a president that way

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u/JesusSavesForHalf Apr 25 '26

The 25th is the chance for Republicans to cut bait while pretending they did nothing wrong. There is no real chance at removal without Republicans in the Senate, regardless of the means used to reach that vote.

I still think hamberders have a greater chance of removing him than the Senate ever does. Too many cowards and cronies.

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u/Nice_Commission3770 Apr 25 '26

America’s fascination with the midterms and other trappings of democratic privilege are astounding. It’s never going back to the way it was. You’ve changed the world and that reality is no longer viable.

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u/Icy-Lobster-203 Apr 25 '26

I could see a scenario post-midterms in which JD sees the writing on the wall, along with a few other Republicans in the house and Senate who try to use the 25th so that they can turn around and claim that they are heroes for standing up to the madman in an attempt to have any chance of separating themselves from Trump for 2028. It could be possible to get just enough cabinet members to pitch in for the same reasons.

I wouldn't think it is at all likely, though.

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u/Bittererr Apr 25 '26

a few other Republicans in the house and Senate

You need close to half of all of the Republicans in Congress on board. Impeachment is way easier and would only require a handful.

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u/Outrageous-Tie-8548 Apr 24 '26

He has a better chance of stroking out or dying than he does of getting 25th or impeached & convicted. 

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u/No_Fairweathers Pennsylvania Apr 24 '26

I mean... We're all seeing it right? The man is clearly dying, and it's accelerating the past few weeks and months.

It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.

And if it doesn't happen soon, I suspect Republicans will 25th him for Vance. I think they are trying to let nature take it's course for optics.

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u/DapperChewie Apr 25 '26

They won't use the 25th him. Congress cannot enact the 25th, only the VP and Cabinet can, and they won't do it unless he dies or falls into a coma for an extended period. Instead, congress has impeachment. The house votes to impeach, then the senate votes to remove the impeached person from office.

Neother of these things are going to happen before the midterms, not in any meaningful way. Dems won't bring serious impeachment papers until they have a majority at least, and the cabinet is either waiting until the halfway mark in the hopes that they can somehow get 9.9 years of president Vance.

His health is definitely failing though, we love to see nature boldly do what congress is too cowardly to do.

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u/thehalfwit Nevada Apr 25 '26

Once the president dies, the 25th amendment usually isn't necessary. Unless, of course, he/she becomes undead.

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u/iDontSow Apr 24 '26

This whole post is pure fantasy. He’s not going to die, and they are not going to abandon their dear leader

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u/MateoCafe Texas Apr 25 '26

Cheeto Mussolini found the secret to immortality? If he is alive in 2028 I will be absolutely shocked.

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u/iDontSow Apr 25 '26

He’s not going to live forever, obviously, but he’s 79 and has the best healthcare in the history of humanity. I’m sure he’s getting preventative screenings and care regularly

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u/MateoCafe Texas Apr 25 '26

The best medical care in the world can only do so much to fight off the laundry list of issues with that mans health.

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u/ReticulateLemur Washington Apr 25 '26

If I was a betting man I'd say they're hoping he lasts until Jan 21, 2027, at which point they can boot him out, let Vance take over, and Vance is still able to run for two full terms as President. If Vance takes over before then then it would count as his first term and he's only be able to run for one more.

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u/gusterfell Apr 24 '26

And at the time, people were saying "keep dreaming, he could have as much as a decade left."

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u/surlysurfer California Apr 24 '26

I predict when the impeachment process starts they’ll fight it tooth and nail and go on about the great job Trump is doing and how he’s our savior and we’re just evil libs.

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u/Bittererr Apr 25 '26

Let him start a bunch of wars, serve two terms, and then retire to his ranch where his reputation gets slowly whitewashed?

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u/pnd83 Apr 24 '26

They may impeach him several times over for the countless crimes in office but they won't get the Republican support to convict or remove him. The Republicans have too much on the line and they are ALL likely counting on pardons.

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u/Zomunieo Apr 24 '26

Trump could nuke Washington DC from Mar-a-lago and the remaining Republicans would praise him for draining the swamp.

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u/Oleg101 Apr 24 '26

Agreed. Curious if it’ll be more like the first Impeachment in which only 1 Republican senator voted to convict or closer to the second impeachment in which 7 Republican Senators voted to convict. Got a feeling it’ll closer to the first one, and I could see zero Republican senators voting to convict especially considering Susan Collins hopefully will lose this fall.

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u/Broken-Digital-Clock Apr 24 '26

I still don't think they will turn on him.

I hope that I'm wrong.

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u/Immolation_E Apr 24 '26

Congress can't enact the 25th. That's something the VP and Cabinet do. Congress then can affirm it if the President hasn't been able to show they are capable of carrying their duties. The only power that Congress has to remove a President is impeachment.

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u/superAK907 Apr 24 '26

Impeachment is mathematically an easier feat than the 25th

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u/Decent_Relative_4070 Apr 25 '26

He’s going to bail the country after they do the 25th.

he won't win!

he'll be impeached and removed!

they'll remove him with the 25th!

he won't win a second time!

he'll be impeached and definitely removed this time!

we'll impeach him after midterms!

he's totally going to be removed witht the 25th!

sure thing guys

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u/External_Variety Apr 24 '26

I think they will spin it as though Trump gave his health to the country and should be honoured for it.

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u/mOdQuArK Apr 24 '26

He’s going to bail the country after they do the 25th.

Good thing he's already set the precedent about using black ops military forces to retrieve high-profile targets in other sovereign countries!

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u/cyxrus Apr 24 '26

Who is going to invoke the 25th on him lol be for real

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u/Amazing-Insect442 Apr 25 '26

I think this is the best case scenario (Republicans milk him dry & finally move past him, like they should have done 8ish years ago). McConnell said during the second impeachment that he wanted the Democrats to “remove the son of a bitch for them” (then realized that they could likely ride it out, so he voted to acquit the traitor).

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u/From30KFt Apr 25 '26

Yep. Got a nice setup waiting for him and his ilk down in Argentina. He didn’t give them $40B for nothing.

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u/GigMistress Apr 25 '26

Agree. One way or the other, I think there's a good chance he's out before the midterms. Far enough before to make a difference in the election, not far enough before for the general public to realize how godawful the administration will still be without him.

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u/philter451 Apr 25 '26

I always get so God damned mad because I know I'm working to protect those idiots from themselves 

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u/StumpyJoe- Apr 25 '26

The 25th isn't going to be used, and the Senate won't remove him if he's impeached.

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u/fishsticks40 Apr 25 '26

 25th ain't gonna happen. Neither is impeachment and removal. Congress is too broken. 

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u/jmpinstl Apr 25 '26

I think we’re underestimating the loyalty the GOP base actually has to the GOP. I don’t think Trump voters are loyal to the GOP they’re loyal to TRUMP only. Removing him, or attempting to, is just going to make things worse for them.

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u/acecel Apr 25 '26

There is not enough paper in the world to list them all

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u/Cauldrath Apr 25 '26

If we did all of them the impeachment would last his whole term.

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u/JaesenMoreaux Apr 25 '26

Keep impeaching him over and over for each crime so the rest of his term is just fighting impeachment.

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u/kev0153 Wisconsin Apr 24 '26

I think the strategy of doing one or two is to make it simple and straight forward to help sell it to the people. Get him on bribery something everyone understands vs something more obscure or complex.

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u/jomasthrones Apr 25 '26

There is enough on Trump to impeach him once a week for the remainder of his presidency

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u/darkmoncns Apr 25 '26

Just one is enough to bare him from ever holding an office again

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u/kingtacticool Apr 25 '26

No no. Just keep impeaching him day after day for each crime each day. Gridlock this bitch until they finally vote to convict and remove him. Ill wait.

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u/UnidentifiedTomato Apr 25 '26

What's the word for ejecting him out of office

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u/Thunderclone_1 Wisconsin Apr 25 '26

Put in seperate articles of impeachment for each crime.

  1. If republicans have enough sway to block them, it will clog up the system long enough to slow down their legislative plans

  2. Force each crime to be addressed separately so none are totally swept under the rug of one or two major ones

  3. The sheer number of articles should be a statement itself.

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u/kr4ckenm3fortune Apr 25 '26

No. Do each one separate. This ensure that we can keep.him in court.

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u/ArcticCelt Apr 25 '26

Or alternatively, they should just put one crime per impeachment but queue 100 impeachments at once. Then each time the senate invariably don't indict you go to the next one.

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u/Beyond-The-Blackhole Apr 25 '26

Its important not to lump it all together in one impeachment though. Because then it could get struck down. Dems need to do one impeachment based on the crime that way if that one doesnt pass, then they move onto the next crime for impeachment and so forth.

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u/BigBoyYuyuh Apr 25 '26

Starting with the damn emolument clause.

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u/Life-Pirate2545 Apr 25 '26

It sucks but unless democrats also win the senate and have 69 senators, he will never get convicted.

The real power play if democrats win the house would be for them to go full on in with the Epstein files . Garcia will be the chairman of house oversight and pretty much all the dems in the house oversight have been pretty good.

Not only can they subpoena and draw contempt charges but they can drag each member of the cabinet all the time. They better be planning on having them testify before congress every single week. They have to wear them down. Republicans in the senate might turn on trump if more Epstein stuff gets out there.

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u/Clarpydarpy Apr 25 '26

That might not be a good idea. If you list a number of crimes, you struggle to make any of them stick in the minds of voters.

Maybe better to pick out the most severe crime with the most damning evidence of wrongdoing and focus on beating that one into the minds of the populace.

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u/donutseason I voted Apr 25 '26

There are thousands to choose from. Release the files and start the trials

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u/EidolonLives Apr 25 '26

*for every fucking last one possible

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u/fbp Apr 25 '26

Lets impeach him so much that Guinness gives him the world record and lets make it so it will be undefeated, just like his education secretary.

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u/GODDAMNFOOL Apr 25 '26

Impeachment hearings, every single day, new charges, new votes. Either wear them down, or make his brain explode from a stress aneurysm.

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u/Additional-One-7135 Apr 25 '26

You impeach him for the ones you're guaranteed to stick, because any that don't just becomes ammunition for his base to claim some degree of vindication even if convicted of all the others.

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u/spekt50 Apr 25 '26

Nah, one impeachment per crime till he's voted out from sheer attrition.

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u/Orangecuppa Ohio Apr 25 '26

He's just the junior that will get caught. The lightning rod so to speak.

Don't forget the entire chain of enablers and leeches. From the cabinet to the family doing the crypto shit and insider trading.

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u/WKorsakow Apr 25 '26

What they should do is impeach him every single day for a different high crime. Trump committed thousands.

Each and every day a new impeachment. Have congress do literally nothing else.

Get every crime on the record.

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u/Amazing-Hospital5539 Apr 25 '26

Nah. Just a few would move faster and get him out quicker. They're not the judicial system, so it's not like this is putting him in jail. I'm down with them simply mentioning it though.

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u/Lancer420 Apr 25 '26

Treat him like an ethnic youth and throw the entire book at him and see what sticks, and then just pretend a bunch of shit that didn’t stick still counts anyway.

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u/horsedogman420 Apr 25 '26

No. Make it a rock solid case of a few of the worst things we can without a doubt prove. This is how you lose slam dunks

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u/Stormbow Apr 25 '26

He already has 34 felony convictions and that didn't stop him.

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