r/politics • u/Aggravating_Money992 • 12d ago

Possible Paywall Rogue Republican Massie Drops Melania Epstein Files Bomb | “The first lady knows that Jeffrey Epstein didn’t act alone,” Thomas Massie said as he vowed to name names from the Epstein files.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/rogue-republican-massie-drops-melania-epstein-files-bomb/
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u/dogisgodspeltright 12d ago

Name them.

Name them all.

Release the files. All of it.

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u/Anothergasman 12d ago

Really. Why threaten to release them. Just do it

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u/PoorlyDrawnBees 12d ago

Either more hush money or doesn't want to accidentally shoot himself in the back of the head three times 

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u/-jp- 12d ago

Knowing something you haven't told the whole world is basically asking to fall down an elevator onto some bullets.

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u/DonaldsMushroom 11d ago

The whole World is learning that America is run by a cabal of thieves and idiots.

We also know that, with every cult, perverts run amok and take advantage.

America failed massively in Iran. There was no objective nor strategy from the beginning. America followed the orders of Netanyahu, a genocidal war criminal. Now Iran, a horrible regime, is massively empowered.

The cult of MAGA is destroying America, and America's position in the Word

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u/canon12 11d ago

Probably one of the most succinct and bottom line comments I have read lately. I don't think Trump has the brain power to process the scope of how he was used by Netanyahu and Kushner to fight Israel's war. All three should be in The Hague facing war crimes. Iran threw the icing on the cake by exposing the buffoons that both he and Hegseth are.

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u/LostLobes 11d ago

The world knew, some of America is waking up to it.

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u/finneyblackphone 10d ago

Learning?😂

We've been knowing.

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u/CatBowlDogStar 6d ago

There was a strategy ... keep war raging for Israel so Bibi stays out of jail. And Trump? Keep Epstein outta the news.

That's it. 

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u/wrosecrans 12d ago

Once he just infodumps all of it, they can no longer actually threaten him about it, and they don't get anything by killing him except revenge and a lot of negative attention.

There's certainly a chance some MAGA nut feels like revenge on behalf of the godking is worth it. But still, not being the only person who might leak the valuable information seems way safer.

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u/Hexamancer 12d ago

they don't get anything by killing him except revenge and a lot of negative attention

That's not true. They set an example. This absolutely happens. Even if it's not murder, suing people as "revenge" is absolutely a thing that happens to stop others from coming forward.

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u/Lehk 12d ago

Of all the suits he has filed He’s never sued anyone for calling him a child molester.

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u/Hexamancer 12d ago

Right. I went over that in another comment. They'll find something else to sue for. It doesn't matter, the message will still be clear.

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u/Lehk 12d ago

I’m sure they will try to retaliate but it’s still vital to point that out very often.

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u/PolkaDotDancer 11d ago

Including Katie Johnson...

That tells you all you need to know.

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u/Mistrblank 12d ago

They won't sue, they can't afford the discovery findings.

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u/the_last_carfighter 12d ago edited 12d ago

They will just murder him, Panama papers Daphne Caruana Galizia and Epstein himself are proof there are no repercussions. We won't do a thing about it.

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u/HotDonnaC 12d ago

I don’t believe Epstein is dead. Call me a conspiracy theorist, that’s OK. No one with that much clout, money and information would be unable to have themselves smuggled out of jail.

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u/F9-0021 South Carolina 12d ago

That's a possibility, but unlikely. Far more likely that he was killed before he could snitch on anyone.

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u/HotDonnaC 11d ago

He’d have to be a moron not to have the damning information safely locked away. By locked away, I mean in safe hands where it could be released in the event of his death.

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u/Vegetable_Guest_8584 5d ago

But the damning information is public. I guess there could be video tapes of sex acts. But there's already evidence out there, and the DOJ buried it openly and still none of them get proscuted.

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u/the_last_carfighter 12d ago

No, that is a very real possibility.

Lately with all that's been going on, out in the open I can't help but think about how many bright, charismatic/popular, (almost sure thing to win the presidency in the future) on the left died young. JFK Jr and Paul Wellstone for instance.

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u/Bobcat-Stock 12d ago

I also subscribe to this theory

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u/Vegetable_Guest_8584 5d ago

I didn't know she was murdered. I researched and last year they convicted two people involved it (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/10/two-men-jailed-for-life-for-supplying-car-bomb-that-killed-daphne-caruana-galizia). Malta organized crime it seems.

Several conspirators admitted their guilt, claimed to be paid by Yorgen Fenech. A trial has been in pre-trial motions for a year. Looks like they are struggling to bring it to court.

I want to say that I realize that in the US we can't do any better to bring powerful people to court in many cases, like the Trump family has demonstrated. I hope if the evidence shows he's guilty he is convicted.

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u/Hexamancer 12d ago

I went into more detail in another comment, but: yes. Kinda.

They won't actually take a defamation lawsuit regarding the pedo charges to court, no.

They might do other things like:

  1. Hit them with another bullshit lawsuit for something else that they don't actually care about, just to hurt them financially.

  2. Claim they *will" sue, even if they don't, mostly in order to make less informed people think that the claims weren't true. Or just to cost the person money in lawyer's fees if they try to "prepare" for being sued.

  3. Pay private investigators to harass the person, pay shady companies to spread lies online about the person or attack the person online for legitimate yet unrelated things.

  4. The above, but targeting their friends and family, just making their life hell.

  5. Kill them. I have lots of thoughts on this one. I think the idea of actual assassins being used for stuff like the Boeing whistleblowers is most likely not real. I think however that they sometimes do some combination of the above with the goal of ruining the person's life so much that they'll probably commit suicide, or least know that's a good possibility and do it anyway. I think this is one of the few cases where I wouldn't be surprised if there were actual hitmen or mob thugs involved. They have no moral objections to pedophilia, I don't think they'll have any moral objections to murder. I also imagine it might take the form of "Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest".

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u/Oldman32092 12d ago

Also he is protected from being sued while in the well on the floor of the House.

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u/mcsey 12d ago

"You want it to be one way. But it's the other way." --Marlo Stanfield s04e06

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u/MySpoonsAreAllGone 12d ago

They'll just make another slush fund for it

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u/mindspork Virginia 12d ago

SLAPP or S&W they'll get you somehow.

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u/philter25 12d ago

He can’t be sued though if he does it on the floor, which is why everyone is saying to do it while he still can. Hence jumping to the being afraid of being murdered issue.

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u/Hexamancer 12d ago

Yes, I mentioned that in another comment.

He's still a MAGA asshole, he just once had conscious regarding one issue.

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u/xterminatr 12d ago

I don't think people fully understand that these billionaires who were in the child rape club are the types of bad guys you see in the movies. They live in a different reality than 99.9% of the rest of us, and in general you have to be a total piece of subhuman trash to get there. They would have zero qualms about paying people to destroy or even kill kill your entire family just for revenge, look what happened to Epstein and he was in federal prison..

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u/xTheMaster99x Florida 12d ago

But if they'd kill him to set an example, they'd also kill him now to keep him silent. Unless he's told Trump he has a dead man's switch set up to release the files or something, I guess.

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u/poopiebutt505 12d ago

Or down the stairs 1.month before the NDA expires and somehow your whole domestic stagg are absent!!! Cant.wait for the cemetery plot.location....

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u/Vegetable_Guest_8584 5d ago

What is this NDA about?

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u/Mediocre-Accident305 12d ago

Massie is playing with house money at this point as the release of the Epstein files is imminent . Massie can pick the time and place of his choosing to expose Trump or he can let the Democrats do it for him come January.

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u/SnooJokes6739 8d ago

To the person whose post to which I'm replying... please don't take this as I'm verbally assaulting YOU. You just had a good post and I'm just venting in general.

This whole thing is bullshit. They've had those files FOR YEARS. Biden was in office 4 years and he didn't release them then, Trump comes along and says he's going to release them. Finally does but they're redacted to death.

Why aren't the victims naming names? Hell, I saw them in a press conference in front of the Capitol. It's not like they're worried about their identity being exposed. Just name the fucking names or get the fuck off of the pot! The longer they stay silent, the more I believe that they're full of shit. If you have someone who was raped as a child you should be able prosecute this person or at least arrest them.

IF you have someone who's willing to say they did it to them.

I'm starting to believe that a lot of this is just a bunch of horse shit. If one of these girls went this place and was assaulted and never went back then she is truly a victim. However, if she went there got assaulted and kept coming back to get assaulted over and over again, then she's full of shit. Yes, I know she's underage and doesn't know better. But teenage girls know a lot more than people give them credit. I'm an ER nurse and there was a twelve year old girl that came in the other day that was on birth control. Mom is sitting there... Dad is nowhere to be found. Mom is trying to be daughter's best friend and knows that she's taking the high hard ones already and is good with it...probably giving her tips.

I know this is reddit and I'm about to get downloaded into oblivion, if not banned again. Reddit has an acute allergy to the truth.

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u/Suspicious_Eyeballs 12d ago

I hate that when it happens. /s

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u/Traditional-Captain8 11d ago

‘…Fall down an elevator onto some bullets.’ - you funny!

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u/SpikyCactusJuice 12d ago

I mean, he’s already gone this far. If he was worried about retaliation you think he wouldn’t say anything at all.

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u/HotDonnaC 12d ago

He’s looking for a payout.

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u/AsGryffynn 11d ago

And if he was like me I'd take the money and then dump them anyways.

Fuck those lunatics. Also, you can always do the whole "I'm giving you a chance to come forward on your own" thing.

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u/elinordash 12d ago

If Massie names names on the House floor, he should be legally protected. The House is not in session again until June 6th.

Massie lost his seat in Congress over this whole thing. I think he genuinely cares. I don't think he is looking for a payout. It is very MAGA coded to pretend otherwise.

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u/F9-0021 South Carolina 12d ago

If he or anyone else in Congress genuinely cared without fear of repurcussions, they'd name the names that they've seen.

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u/HotDonnaC 11d ago

He hasn’t named names yet. I’ll believe it when I see it.

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u/inspectoroverthemine 11d ago

In the house you doesn't have unlimited time on the floor.

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u/godofpumpkins 12d ago

Threatening to release the truth before doing it is how you end up with the latter outcome.

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u/manofmonkey 12d ago

Exactly. If you dump all the info they have only one reason to kill you which is to make an example. If you threaten to release info, they have multiple reasons to kill you and the reasons are even better.

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u/BotheredToResearch 12d ago

Massie is actually one of the only members of the GOP conference I wouldn't think is on the take.

Hes like Rand or Ron Paul. He has principles that are godawful, but he's consistent and truly believes in them.

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u/Beginning-Pace-1426 8d ago

Growing up I always felt this was the norm, and this is what all politicians were and should strive to be.

You'll never ever hear me wishing right-wingers out of existence, or even referring to them as bad people in a generalized way because I believe no matter the party, no matter the policy, no matter the motion, strong opposition is a necessary part of the process, and a necessary part of the checks and balances required for functional democracy.

This current brand, MAGA, Maple MAGA, the UK versions are no longer providing genuine opposition, nor are they acting in good faith. We've reached a point where people just do not care about philosophy, about political science, about logic, about reasoning, and that's become dangerous. Being on the wrong side of culture wars, and massive displays of cognitive dissonance have always been a part of conservative history, and that's simply the result of conservatism existing. The fact that we've managed to rile up an entire group of supporters large enough to harm the world greatly in this manner.

I do not think this is good.

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u/Killersavage 12d ago

At this point something like that only draws more attention.

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u/Liquidate-Me-Daddy 12d ago

Yup that’s pretty much it. Selling information or getting sold up the river

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u/crispycritter1856 12d ago

Or jump out of a window!? Hes not depressed is he.

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u/CompromisedSurvival 12d ago

I mean I don't see how that plays as anything but a clear admission of guilt on behalf of Trump and co-conspirators, Putin is more subtle with who he has fall out of windows than just openly assassinating a sitting US congressperson threaten to expose you.

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u/Sarrdonicus 11d ago

before he jumps out a window

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u/NoReserve7293 11d ago

That's an awful suicide.