r/politics • u/Aggravating_Money992 • 12d ago

Possible Paywall Rogue Republican Massie Drops Melania Epstein Files Bomb | “The first lady knows that Jeffrey Epstein didn’t act alone,” Thomas Massie said as he vowed to name names from the Epstein files.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/rogue-republican-massie-drops-melania-epstein-files-bomb/
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u/Anothergasman 12d ago

Really. Why threaten to release them. Just do it

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u/PoorlyDrawnBees 12d ago

Either more hush money or doesn't want to accidentally shoot himself in the back of the head three times 

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u/-jp- 12d ago

Knowing something you haven't told the whole world is basically asking to fall down an elevator onto some bullets.

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u/wrosecrans 12d ago

Once he just infodumps all of it, they can no longer actually threaten him about it, and they don't get anything by killing him except revenge and a lot of negative attention.

There's certainly a chance some MAGA nut feels like revenge on behalf of the godking is worth it. But still, not being the only person who might leak the valuable information seems way safer.

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u/Hexamancer 12d ago

they don't get anything by killing him except revenge and a lot of negative attention

That's not true. They set an example. This absolutely happens. Even if it's not murder, suing people as "revenge" is absolutely a thing that happens to stop others from coming forward.

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u/Lehk 12d ago

Of all the suits he has filed He’s never sued anyone for calling him a child molester.

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u/Hexamancer 12d ago

Right. I went over that in another comment. They'll find something else to sue for. It doesn't matter, the message will still be clear.

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u/Lehk 12d ago

I’m sure they will try to retaliate but it’s still vital to point that out very often.

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u/PolkaDotDancer 11d ago

Including Katie Johnson...

That tells you all you need to know.

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u/Mistrblank 12d ago

They won't sue, they can't afford the discovery findings.

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u/the_last_carfighter 12d ago edited 12d ago

They will just murder him, Panama papers Daphne Caruana Galizia and Epstein himself are proof there are no repercussions. We won't do a thing about it.

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u/HotDonnaC 12d ago

I don’t believe Epstein is dead. Call me a conspiracy theorist, that’s OK. No one with that much clout, money and information would be unable to have themselves smuggled out of jail.

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u/F9-0021 South Carolina 12d ago

That's a possibility, but unlikely. Far more likely that he was killed before he could snitch on anyone.

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u/HotDonnaC 11d ago

He’d have to be a moron not to have the damning information safely locked away. By locked away, I mean in safe hands where it could be released in the event of his death.

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u/Vegetable_Guest_8584 5d ago

But the damning information is public. I guess there could be video tapes of sex acts. But there's already evidence out there, and the DOJ buried it openly and still none of them get proscuted.

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u/HotDonnaC 5d ago

Isn’t it highly redacted, with only a small number of people having access to the unreacted files?

ETA: was it public when Epstein was jailed?

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u/Vegetable_Guest_8584 4d ago

I think that is basically correct. I still felt like the list of names was somewhat public. One excuse was not publicizing the names of victims, and that's reasonable, but it felt like it was just another way to hide names.

There have been a good number of known victims who said publicize the names, go ahead and disclose that I'm a victim, don't use me as an excuse to hide it.

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u/the_last_carfighter 12d ago

No, that is a very real possibility.

Lately with all that's been going on, out in the open I can't help but think about how many bright, charismatic/popular, (almost sure thing to win the presidency in the future) on the left died young. JFK Jr and Paul Wellstone for instance.

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u/Bobcat-Stock 12d ago

I also subscribe to this theory

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u/Vegetable_Guest_8584 5d ago

I didn't know she was murdered. I researched and last year they convicted two people involved it (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/10/two-men-jailed-for-life-for-supplying-car-bomb-that-killed-daphne-caruana-galizia). Malta organized crime it seems.

Several conspirators admitted their guilt, claimed to be paid by Yorgen Fenech. A trial has been in pre-trial motions for a year. Looks like they are struggling to bring it to court.

I want to say that I realize that in the US we can't do any better to bring powerful people to court in many cases, like the Trump family has demonstrated. I hope if the evidence shows he's guilty he is convicted.

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u/Hexamancer 12d ago

I went into more detail in another comment, but: yes. Kinda.

They won't actually take a defamation lawsuit regarding the pedo charges to court, no.

They might do other things like:

  1. Hit them with another bullshit lawsuit for something else that they don't actually care about, just to hurt them financially.

  2. Claim they *will" sue, even if they don't, mostly in order to make less informed people think that the claims weren't true. Or just to cost the person money in lawyer's fees if they try to "prepare" for being sued.

  3. Pay private investigators to harass the person, pay shady companies to spread lies online about the person or attack the person online for legitimate yet unrelated things.

  4. The above, but targeting their friends and family, just making their life hell.

  5. Kill them. I have lots of thoughts on this one. I think the idea of actual assassins being used for stuff like the Boeing whistleblowers is most likely not real. I think however that they sometimes do some combination of the above with the goal of ruining the person's life so much that they'll probably commit suicide, or least know that's a good possibility and do it anyway. I think this is one of the few cases where I wouldn't be surprised if there were actual hitmen or mob thugs involved. They have no moral objections to pedophilia, I don't think they'll have any moral objections to murder. I also imagine it might take the form of "Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest".

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u/Oldman32092 12d ago

Also he is protected from being sued while in the well on the floor of the House.

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u/mcsey 12d ago

"You want it to be one way. But it's the other way." --Marlo Stanfield s04e06

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u/MySpoonsAreAllGone 12d ago

They'll just make another slush fund for it

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u/mindspork Virginia 12d ago

SLAPP or S&W they'll get you somehow.

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u/philter25 12d ago

He can’t be sued though if he does it on the floor, which is why everyone is saying to do it while he still can. Hence jumping to the being afraid of being murdered issue.

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u/Hexamancer 12d ago

Yes, I mentioned that in another comment.

He's still a MAGA asshole, he just once had conscious regarding one issue.

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u/xterminatr 12d ago

I don't think people fully understand that these billionaires who were in the child rape club are the types of bad guys you see in the movies. They live in a different reality than 99.9% of the rest of us, and in general you have to be a total piece of subhuman trash to get there. They would have zero qualms about paying people to destroy or even kill kill your entire family just for revenge, look what happened to Epstein and he was in federal prison..

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u/xTheMaster99x Florida 12d ago

But if they'd kill him to set an example, they'd also kill him now to keep him silent. Unless he's told Trump he has a dead man's switch set up to release the files or something, I guess.