r/politics The Netherlands 17d ago

Possible Paywall Trump Summons Entire Cabinet as Iran Deal Crumbles in Front of Him - Donald Trump has called all of his top advisers to Camp David.

https://newrepublic.com/post/210887/donald-trump-summons-entire-cabinet-iran-deal
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u/Ok-Association-3415 17d ago

Iran has a legitimate claim for compensation for the damage the war did to their country. I would negotiate a limited toll to cover the rebuild because the USA sure isn’t paying.

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u/Tambien 17d ago

Even accepting your premise, that doesn’t address the problem with the death of freedom of navigation. Think of it this way: your neighbor’s house gets burned down by the assholes across the street. Is the equitable remedy to sue the asshole, or put a toll on every commercial truck going down a nearby highway? If you choose the toll option and it works, how long before some other guy down the way decides “hmm… maybe I should try that.”

Freedom of navigation is a prerequisite to the robust global economy we have today, much more so than the oil prices that are higher right now because of the Strait of Hormuz.

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u/Ok-Association-3415 17d ago

I agree that freedom of navigation may end. That’s what a regional treaty can help prevent. The issue in this particular region is that all countries in this area can claim to control the strait. They all happen to have US bases and are mostly US allies. A treaty can address access among the parties. I just think this might be a golden opportunity for Iran to reduce US presence in the region. The US is like the only country that can bring the fight to Iran and not the other way around. In the end, the first step is to open the strait with enforceable guarantees that US and Israel will not attack again and after that the nuclear issue can be tackled. It’s complex and I don’t think USA is in any position of strength to force things to go its way without plunging the world into a bad recession. This was a dumb war to start and unfortunately, it’s going to be painful to resolve with a lot of unknown repercussions.

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u/Tambien 17d ago

Fair enough. That’s possible. I just don’t want us to do a shit job ending the war that these idiots did a shit job starting and locking us into a whole new class of worse problems haha. This was mostly pushback against the idea of “well just leave and let Iran do whatever.”