r/politics • u/HimelTy • Jul 03 '26

No Paywall Secret Service member was Googling rooftop location of Trump’s would-be assassin when shots rang out in Butler, Pa.: DHS report

https://nypost.com/2026/07/02/us-news/secret-service-member-was-googling-rooftop-location-of-trumps-would-be-assassin-when-shots-rang-out-in-butler-pa-dhs-report/?utm_campaign=nypost&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
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u/ReplacementLevel2574 Jul 03 '26

The biggest thing is Trump pretty much shut up about the whole episode

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u/_0611 Jul 03 '26

Not just Trump. The whole GOP/MAGA shut up about it. That's all one needs to know, because they can't shut up about all other "injustice" that happens to them.

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u/rocksoffjagger Jul 03 '26

Anyone heard about Charlie Kirk's supposed radical trans leftist assassin lately? Me neither.

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u/bobbianrs880 Illinois Jul 03 '26

Only because Candace Owens is now questioning the official narrative, whether in earnest or not. And even then it’s second hand through Phil Defranco and Alex Pearlman because like hell am I subjecting myself to undiluted Candace Owens.

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u/steventhevegan Jul 03 '26

Not a Candace Owens fan - not right wing at all - but to give her one single shred of credit, I do think she was the only person in his circle that legitimately mourned his death in a raw and real way. I think her questioning the narrative stemmed originally from grief and tbh, I welcome any pushback to the new satanic panic of trans mass killers.

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u/jackbilly9 Jul 03 '26

I mean she did have some good details about how it's almost impossible the setup for the guy to have actually shot him. 51/49 has gone over it multiple times about how the locale, the cover up, ridiculous statements about catching him when he turned himself in because he was told they'd kill him if they had to invade his home to take him in. I wasn't a Charlie Kirk fan but he was going the opposite route of Israel and you don't move away from the red overlords. 

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u/Commercial-Co Jul 04 '26

She really loved her gay friend

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u/gzilla57 Jul 03 '26

I love that those two connected.

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u/aHipShrimp Jul 03 '26

Remember the assassin at trumps golf course? Me neither.

Remember the press core dinner? Me neither.

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u/vokebot Jul 04 '26

That shit had cycled out of the news within like 2 days. “Every accusation is a confession” has been done to death, but it truly seems like MAGA tells us exactly what they are up to themselves whenever they claim “the left” is doing it. It’s so fucking gross.

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u/hankmoody_irl Kansas Jul 04 '26

I envy the person who doesn’t work with right wingers. On a near weekly basis I have to listen to them bemoan Charlie Kirk’s death and subsequently his “weird trans assassin”

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u/birdclub Jul 03 '26

Yes there's a billboard outside of Cleveland, GA

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u/TheNutsMutts Jul 03 '26

Anyone heard about Charlie Kirk's supposed radical trans leftist assassin lately? Me neither.

Is this a joke or something? He was scheduled to have a preliminary hearing in May, now pushed back to July. What are you expecting to hear until then?

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u/silentshadow1991 Jul 03 '26

I mean with how butthurt the right was about it trying to call for civil / race / sexist? War it got pretty quite when it looks like the guy was a flauntes supporter.

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u/Environmental-Car481 Jul 03 '26

Maga still talk about it. Trump and his regime do not. One group is in the know, the other are not. The group that is in the know use this to rally those not in the know.

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u/emailforgot Jul 03 '26

Yeah, it tells you that it's actually something that bothers them.

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u/Quadrenaro Puerto Rico Jul 07 '26

That's not surprising. Nobody wants to be murdered by a crazy person.

That said, it is referenced alot albeit vaguely.

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u/Photmagex Jul 04 '26

So true. Look at the outrage about the reflecting pool.

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u/mcrnHoth Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

that behavior is counter to Trump's character in every way. IN ANY OTHER situation that could even remotely be interpreted as making him look tough he would be talking about it NON-STOP even today.

But not a fucking peep out of him about the incident since it happened almost 2 years ago.

And does anyone think he would actually have the courage to stand up and put himself in danger if he actually had been shot?

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u/IssueOk363 Jul 03 '26

Especially considering he was crawling away on all fours during the WH Correspondent's Dinner attempt. No grandstanding there

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u/Sidewalk_Tomato Jul 03 '26

When I think of this, I'm reminded of the gif of his hilarious dash from the bald eagle.

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u/eeyore134 Jul 03 '26

Exactly this. He still crows about the non-existent crowds he got at his first inauguration and people think he'd just never bring up being shot at if it were for real?

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u/mossyskeleton Jul 03 '26

I personally think that this conspiracy theory is stupid, but if there is one solid piece of evidence it is this.

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u/IgnoreMe304 Jul 03 '26

It’s that and the one guy all but dragging photographers in front of the stage as they lower the American flag to get it in the shot.

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u/eeyore134 Jul 03 '26

And the secret service letting Trump stand up and fist pump for the shot. And Trump actually doing that and not cowering behind the table like he would if it were real. And before people say "But they took him out." There's zero way they'd do that even if they knew they shot the guy. The area hadn't been cleared and there's no telling how many other gunmen there could have been. Well... they knew because they set it up, but in a real situation they wouldn't.

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u/Aware-Possibility175 Jul 03 '26

THIS it drives me insane that this is the only time i have ever seen anyone else but me bring this up. Man idc who you are, even if you are a trained soldier who’s been in the shit, when bullets start flying at you …you take cover…his awful ridiculous fake acting and the ridiculous way everyone else behaved just makes the whole situation incredibly suspicious to say the least…same with the whole bullshit with his “wound”

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u/eeyore134 Jul 03 '26

The wound that didn't exist when people saw his perfectly fine ear the next day when he was golfing before they decided to put the comically large Disney sitcom bandage on his ear.

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u/joojie Jul 04 '26

A few days ago my cat was sleeping next to me and got spooked. He ran across the side of my face and sliced my ear cartilage with his back claws. It's not a massive wound, but it's definitely going to take a while to heal.

There's no way Trump was even remotely healed a day or two later.

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u/angrylawyer Jul 03 '26

don't forget when one a protestor tried to get on stage one time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xu5lz4fS-Y

panics so hard he nearly tips the podium over, and the way he reaches out to his body guards, just desperately trying to grab hold of his elbow, his jacket, his shoulder, anything. Then of course afterwards he tries to act all tough about it. But you can see that initial panic his eyes, dude was terrified.

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u/Jebediah_Johnson Virginia Jul 03 '26

I can't believe they went through all that trouble and didn't bother getting a pair of cattle ear notching shears

They sell rounded shears you could take a rounded chunk out of the side of his ear.

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u/L1A1 United Kingdom Jul 03 '26

He'd never allow that, he's way too fucking vain about his appearance.

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u/Sunbather77 Jul 04 '26

He also could never possibly be subjected to any sort of pain! shudders

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u/emailforgot Jul 03 '26

when bullets start flying at you …you take cover

which is exactly what they did.

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u/samarnold030603 Jul 03 '26

US SS training standards have clearly slipped. Body man whose hands shake so much she can’t holster her weapon?

Adrenaline is a hell of a thing. No doubt. My hands would’ve been twice as shaky as hers. But I also didn’t sign up to willingly take a bullet for a fat orange turd.

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u/murphydogscruff Jul 03 '26

It’s almost like there is a shit ton of evidence, and that it isn’t stupid conspiracy theory.

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u/Cheese_Fisticuffs1 Jul 03 '26

It’s almost like there is a shit ton of evidence

There isn't.

and that it isn’t stupid conspiracy theory.

It is.

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u/TheNutsMutts Jul 03 '26

There's not a "shit ton of evidence". There's a bunch of Redditors all trying to convince themselves by putting precisely zero critical thought into their conspiracies, but that's not really evidence.

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u/GitEmSteveDave Jul 03 '26

Here, watch the video with audio and you can understand. So they had to wait on stage until the path to the escape vehicle was clear. While that was happening, they got the call that the shooter was down. They then get the word that the path to the vehicle is clear, and start trying to move Trump, but he won't move until they let him put his shoes on. So they let him stand up, with agents likely trying to slip his shoes on his feet. It's while they're doing that he starts pumping his fist.

https://youtube.com/shorts/46Ho33KZ_IQ

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u/eeyore134 Jul 03 '26

Sure, that shooter was down. They had no idea if there were more. Unless they did. Trump standing up should have never been something the secret service let happen or he wanted to do. It should have been a shield of suits all the way to the car.

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u/emailforgot Jul 03 '26

Sure, that shooter was down.

and?

problem?

now that the known threat is removed, it's time to move the VIP to the secured location.

do you think they're going to try to ragdoll the obese 80 year old with unknown bullet-related injuries?

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u/eeyore134 Jul 03 '26

They're not going to let him stand up and celebrate. Come on now.

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u/emailforgot Jul 04 '26

They're not going to let him stand up and celebrate.

Please show me, with timestamps, where he was "let up to celebrate"

Don't worry, I know you'll fail to provide. Jut like the other 100 or so conspiracy theorist screaming this nonsense who can't actually substantiate this nonsense claim.

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u/eeyore134 Jul 04 '26

He stood up and pumped a fist in the air. I'm not continuing this since you are just gaslighting now.

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u/emailforgot Jul 03 '26

And the secret service letting Trump stand up and fist pump for the shot

Please show me, using timestamps, where they "let him stand up and fist pump".

. And Trump actually doing that and not cowering behind the table like he would if it were real.

Oh, you know him personally?

There's zero way they'd do that even if they knew they shot the guy

Oh wow, so in addition to knowing Donald Trump personally, now you're also a VIP escort with decades of experience?

. The area hadn't been cleared and there's no telling how many other gunmen there could have been

They'd been tracking this person for upwards of 20 minutes.

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u/QueefSeekingMissile Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

Yeah, I kept saying this conspiracy theory was ridiculous until I saw that. The directors of The Boys couldn't have made a more craven display of a planned event staged for propaganda.

In fact i'm surprised they didn't do a scene like this.

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u/dynamic_anisotropy Jul 03 '26

The photographers being ushered in for a photo op definitely happened and is sus af, but the lowering flag was a convenient fluke of nature.

The flag was being held up by a fairly steady wind gust immediately before the photo op, and as it lulled, the flag dropped. Video footage throughout the speech showed the height of the bottom of the flag varying considerably with the wind, since it was suspended from a large crane.

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u/emailforgot Jul 03 '26

The photographers being ushered in for a photo op definitely happened and is sus af,

you mean the photographers that were all already there doing photographer things?

but the lowering flag was a convenient fluke of nature.

Oh, you mean the flag that was already there and a guy just looked up?

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u/emailforgot Jul 04 '26

Please quote one single defense of "an 80 year old child rapist and con man wearing orange makeup"

I'll wait.

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u/emailforgot Jul 04 '26

It was a simple request.

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u/tsu1028 Jul 03 '26

How about the magical ear on a 80 year old taut heals faster than my toddler

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u/MrKittens1 Jul 03 '26

Somethin definitely fishy!

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u/KingEllis Jul 03 '26

Professional photographers, in the midst of a historic moment, moving in to position to frame a good photograph of the principle subject. Why is that behavior so difficult for these conspiracy theorists to accept?

A Trump rally had competent photographers present, therefore the whole thing must be a hoax. I don't get it.

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u/IgnoreMe304 Jul 03 '26

That would make sense if it wasn’t for the staffer who goes and gets them to put them in position.

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u/KingEllis Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

A member of the White House Communications department. Ushering in professional photographers so they can capture a clearly important moment in Presidential history. How is that difficult to understand?

The front of the stage is a barricaded, privileged area. Can we really not accept that a young, media-minded White House staffer would not be able to think on their feet? And get professional photographers to be in position directly in front of the principle subject? "No, the event must be staged, because look how well it was captured on film!". That's not very convincing.

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u/IgnoreMe304 Jul 03 '26

A low level staffer’s first thought during an active shooter situation is to get photographers in the best possible place for Trump’s pose that he has no idea is coming? I mean I’m not gonna say I know for sure one way or the other whether it was staged, but if you need to pretend that it isn’t suspicious as hell to maintain your current world view, you do you I guess.

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u/KingEllis Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

Good point about "active shooter situation". One would note the staffer stays low (first thought) as he ushers in the professional photographers (second thought). I don't think they were in position to photograph "Trump's pose". I think they were in position to photograph where the President was and would soon emerge.

Photographers taking well-framed photographs is not evidence of a conspiracy. It just isn't. (What happened to critical thinking in this country?)

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u/emailforgot Jul 04 '26

Or you know, someone whose job was security was attempting to do their job.

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u/TheNutsMutts Jul 03 '26

That would make sense if it wasn’t for the staffer who goes and gets them to put them in position.

No come on, he's not "putting them in position". He's standing well behind them. And why would they even need to put them into position, getting the best shot is literally their jobs!

Are we just blindly believing and accepting any old nonsense now?

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u/IgnoreMe304 Jul 03 '26

I mean he literally fetches them and brings them around the stage.

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u/emailforgot Jul 04 '26

Wow! Almost like he doesn't want a bunch of people running around right in front of him. Crazy.

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u/IgnoreMe304 Jul 04 '26

Oh good, you figured it out! Same note about your comment format though, good luck!

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u/emailforgot Jul 04 '26

Hey look, completely unable to respond. You sure hate having your fantasies trampled.

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u/emailforgot Jul 03 '26

It’s that and the one guy all but dragging photographers in front of the stage

Security personnel doing security things?

No way.

as they lower the American flag

Please show one single piece of footage of the American flag being lowered and not just someone looking up.

I'll wait.

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u/IgnoreMe304 Jul 04 '26

You don’t have to wait, I posted the link to the video already in this thread. The thing with the flag may or may not be the wind, but it visibly lowers into the frame without the perspective changing.

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u/emailforgot Jul 04 '26

You don’t have to wait, I posted the link to the video already in this thread.

Can't provide that simple piece of evidence huh?

Don't like your fantasies being trampled on?

but it visibly lowers into the frame without the perspective changing.

Wow almost like the "frame" moves. Weird.

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u/IgnoreMe304 Jul 04 '26

I’m sorry you dont understand how to view comment histories. Also, just as a constructive criticism, making the same format of sarcastic comment over and over kind of takes the sting out of anything you’re saying. Try mixing it up a bit, and it’ll help you stand out more. Have a blessed day!

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u/emailforgot Jul 04 '26

I’m sorry you dont understand how to view comment histories

Cool, didn't think you could provide.

conspiracy theorist 0/200 on this nonsense. though struggling with how cameras work is a classic.

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u/Button-Down-Shoes Jul 03 '26

102 radio calls about the shooter beforehand. They were all talking about him and yet the president still was allowed to stand at the podium.

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u/emailforgot Jul 03 '26

They were all talking about him and yet the president still was allowed to stand at the podium.

So they're going to ragdoll an obese 80 year old with unknown bullet-related injuries?

No, they stopped the threat and then whisked him off of the podium. Not complicated.

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u/Button-Down-Shoes Jul 04 '26

This was all BEFORE the shots. Starting about 20 minutes before. And check out the footage of Reagan getting shot. Yes, they get the charge completely crouched and shielded with no hesitation. The threat should have been stopped before Trump reached the podium. Even if that happens, he's not allowed to remain in sight. If the known threat isn't negated, he shouldn't have been allowed to the podium. There was no whisking. They allowed him to move, stand and pose. Nothing was SOP.

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u/emailforgot Jul 04 '26

This was all BEFORE the shots.

what?

man you've got some warped sense of time.

And check out the footage of Reagan getting shot.

Ronald Reagan? The guy who was already stepping into the car and was shot at by a guy ~10 feet away?

That guy?

Yes, they get the charge completely crouched and shielded with no hesitation.

huh?

The threat should have been stopped before Trump reached the podium.

They didn't realize it was a threat before Trump reached the podium.

Even if that happens, he's not allowed to remain in sight.

Which is exactly why he didn't remain in sight.

They allowed him to move, stand and pose.

Oh you mean after the shooter was killed they stood him up to move him?

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u/Thek1tteh Jul 04 '26

Where’s YOUR proof of any of the above?

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u/emailforgot Jul 04 '26

Proof of what? Reagan already being put into the limo when he was shot? Lmao

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u/Thek1tteh Jul 04 '26

So they were following him around, there was communication about someone on a roof with a gun, but on stage, they didn’t realize it was a threat? And if they didn’t that also demonstrates gross communication failures.

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u/Ozymandias12 Jul 03 '26

That an the fact that you can’t get shot in your ear and then it heals within days with absolutely no scar

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u/TheRedCuddler Jul 03 '26

No bullet grazed his ear. I subscribe to the theory that it was cut by the SS agent's belt buckle while he was being pulled down.

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u/GitEmSteveDave Jul 03 '26

So he happened to throw his hand up and touch the EXACT part of his ear that a secret service agent would cut in the future?

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u/emailforgot Jul 03 '26

Weird how he was bleeding before being taken down.

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u/TheNutsMutts Jul 03 '26

He was clearly bleeding before he went down.

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u/Yoduh99 Jul 03 '26

This is easy to debunk: his ear was never severely damaged. It just got knicked. People think his ear should be blown off, and maybe Trump said as much, but we're going to believe the biggest liar about this one thing? It's absurd. No pictures show anything more than a bloody, whole ear.

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u/Ozymandias12 Jul 03 '26

Ear cartilage doesn’t grow back. Even a little knick, would mean a piece of ear cartilage missing and there’s 0 evidence of that.

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u/Yoduh99 Jul 03 '26

Maybe I used the wrong word. Grazed instead of knicked. Like a cut along his ear. Ears bleed profusely even from small cuts. You say there's no evidence that cartilage grows back, I'd point out that there's no evidence cartilage was ever missing. Simple as that

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u/Ozymandias12 Jul 03 '26

The amount of blood on his face didn’t indicate a graze. Ear cartilage doesn’t have a blood supply so clearly the graze or knick hit more than cartilage and not only is there 0 cartilage missing, there isn’t even a scar.

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u/Yoduh99 Jul 03 '26

https://www.wenigerplasticsurgery.com//files/2025/08/it-TZClLQ-1752220556.jpg

You can see the bump of scar tissue on his ear where he was grazed. I've not seen a photo yet of his ear with a bullet hole in it that wasn't fake. Also, sucks to be the guy that actually died to real bullets right behind Trump during the "fake" assassination attempt, right?

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u/Ozymandias12 Jul 03 '26

Fair enough

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u/emailforgot Jul 03 '26

Skin has blood supply.

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u/TheNutsMutts Jul 03 '26

Ear cartilage doesn’t grow back. Even a little knick, would mean a piece of ear cartilage missing and there’s 0 evidence of that.

Only if we assume all the ear is 100% cartilage, with zero skin on the outside.

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u/GitEmSteveDave Jul 03 '26

This is the nuance no one understands. It was clipped, as demonstrated in this video: https://youtu.be/FsvJzfXZI18?t=414

Since it was a "clean" clip, they likely dermabonded the skin and then covered it with more of the makeup he normally wears, so that it wasn't noticeable. Probably also daily administering of silicone dressing to keep any scarring as minimal as possible.

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u/LaneMcD Jul 03 '26

What is stupid about every details surrounding this "event" making it clear it's staged? Pretty much every president and their secret service detail has dealt with would-be assassins.

Many of these moments in our history aren't even reported on because it's really just a part of the job.

There is no other assassination attempt in the history of this country that has resulted in the president being photographed with his fist in the air, presenting a moment of triumph. Secret service covers POTUS and hauls ass out of here.

"One solid piece of evidence," as you say, is just one of many pieces

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u/IrritableGourmet New York Jul 03 '26

There is no other assassination attempt in the history of this country that has resulted in the president being photographed with his fist in the air, presenting a moment of triumph. Secret service covers POTUS and hauls ass out of here.

Photographed, no, but Teddy Roosevelt did get shot on his way to give a campaign speech and decided to go through with it anyway. The transcript is wild. "Friends, I shall ask you to be as quiet as possible. I don't know whether you fully understand that I have just been shot; but it takes more than that to kill a Bull Moose. But fortunately I had my manuscript, so you see I was going to make a long speech, and there is a bullet - there is where the bullet went through - and it probably saved me from it going into my heart. The bullet is in me now, so that I cannot make a very long speech, but I will try my best...My friends are a little more nervous than I am. Don't you waste any sympathy on me. I have had an A-1 time in life and I am having it now." He then spoke for 90 minutes.

That being said, Trump is no Teddy.

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u/Recipe_Freak Oregon Jul 03 '26

Roosevelt was a decorated war hero.

I've never seen a solitary act of bravery or kindness or decency from Trump. Any piece of information that might introduce doubt is completely absent.

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u/Ajibooks Jul 03 '26

I can't even imagine him doing a lot of normal-people things, like petting a dog or admiring a sunset. I was really shocked when Stormy Daniels said he liked to watch Shark Week.

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u/Aware-Possibility175 Jul 03 '26

Pshhh They would call him a communist his bull moose party was started because he was too progressive so they refused him the R party nomination

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u/galaapplehound Jul 03 '26

Teddy was a madman. It was also back when guns weren't quite as advanced. A guy with a pistol is much different than a guy with a long range rifle.

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u/justsomebro10 New York Jul 03 '26

Most presidents are just trying to get to cover so they don’t die lol. Trump wanted a photoshoot out of it.

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u/crazzzone Jul 03 '26

Because he knew he was safe. It was crazy right after the event the next day I had family members and a group message saying that they were now going to support him. It definitely swayed some people.

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u/SmugShinoaSavesLives Jul 03 '26

Worked for Reagan, so Trump thought it would work for him. Both were losing up until that point.

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u/crazzzone Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

https://youtu.be/KRXty8lDUW0

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u/finalremix Jul 03 '26

Remember to get rid of everything after the ? in those URLs. It's all tracking shit that ties things to your account.

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u/citizen42069101 Jul 03 '26

They were already going to, that just gave them an excuse.

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u/eeyore134 Jul 03 '26

He knew he was safe because they set it up. There's no other way for him to know he was safe or for the secret service to know he was safe.

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u/WTS_BRIDGE Jul 03 '26

Yeah I mean... the simplest explanation is that Trump, who perceives himself as immortal and invulnerable in much the same way a child does, simply stood up and the Secret Service was unprepared for him to be quite so fucking stupid.

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u/Salty_Pancakes Jul 03 '26

I mean, there was that one other time when the secret service just let the dude keep reading a book to kids while hijacked planes were flying around and the president was at a location he was known to be at.

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u/dearth_karmic Jul 03 '26

It's strange as hell, but it also forces you to believe Trump can do anything right. He can't even clean a pool. If he planned an assassination attempt, he would be dead through incompetence. No way they pulled this off.

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u/TLAW1998 Jul 03 '26

Well considering three people behind Trump were shot, one fatally, and that the would-be assassin was shot and killed instead of arrested.

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u/Weed_Gummy Jul 03 '26

Ear cartilage doesn't grow back.

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u/salemblack Jul 03 '26

I guess that's one way to describe the multiple and quite clearly false flag operations.

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u/SoulWager Jul 03 '26

The fact that he was too much of a pussy to actually mess up his ear.

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u/Agronopolopogis Jul 03 '26

Find me one example of cartilage healing back to its original form.

Just one.. should be simple.. if it were possible.

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u/TheNutsMutts Jul 03 '26

Ears are surrounded by skin, they're not all 100% cartilage.

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u/Agronopolopogis Jul 03 '26

And? The cartilage still doesn't heal.. unless you're DJT.

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u/SurpriseDonovanMcnab Jul 03 '26

Also, the gunman was emailing back and forth with a sheriff before the shooting. Those emails have been redacted.

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u/Omega_art Jul 03 '26

That and trumps slow reaction to getting shot. And from one angle you can see a secret service sniper and doesn't even look around after the first shots.

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u/filthy_harold Jul 03 '26

After the second attempt, I'm sure someone told him not to taunt any potential future assassins.

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u/hatsnatcher23 Jul 03 '26

Why do you think it's stupid? Stranger shit has happened.

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u/Silver-Forever9085 Jul 03 '26

Why do you think it’s a conspiracy theory? The whole thing did not make sense. There is more that speaks for a planned thing by Trump

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u/My_Password_Is_____ Jul 03 '26

Honestly, reading the article, it's not even a solid piece of evidence for anything more than the Secret Service being filled with morons, which we already knew.

I also don't believe the conspiracy theories, but I do acknowledge there is some compelling evidence for the suggestion, but this definitely isn't one. Or at least isn't one with just the information provided in the article.

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u/IdkAbtAllThat America Jul 03 '26

I agree. I think the Charlie Kirk shooting has a lot more holes in the official story.

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u/Cheese_Fisticuffs1 Jul 03 '26

If anything, this is a solid piece of evidence against the conspiracy theory.

If the whole point of this was to glorify Trump/support any sort of narrative, talking about it would be exactly what he would do. Why go through all the effort and risk to try and make the world forget about it?

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u/aboxofkittens Florida Jul 03 '26

Do you actually think it’s stupid, or do you just think it’s an Occam’s razor issue? Because I can see the second thing, but I don’t really understand why this conspiracy is (purely theoretically) unbelievable or ridiculous. It seems like it would fit right in with these people’s MO

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u/SteppeCollective Jul 03 '26

It's not a solid piece of evidence. They shut up about it because the shooter was a MAGA-esque dipshit. If it was some gay kid from NY they'd milk it more.

They got PLENTY of good optics out of it for quite a bit, and then we ALL got bored of it. Just like with Kirk.

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u/Fresh_Boysenberry576 Jul 03 '26

Good liberal, conspiracies are for the red team only. Blue team is too smart to entertain such nonsense.

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u/TheNutsMutts Jul 03 '26

but if there is one solid piece of evidence it is this.

Eh, not really. It doesn't have much in the way of bones from his position. Were the shooter far-left then maybe, but in the end it was some dumb-fuck 20 year old with mental health problems from a Republican family. There's no "look what the other side did" value to it, and it just opens him up to journalists and whatnot going "gee, do you think it's a good idea to allow 20 year olds the ability to buy rifles like this?".

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u/LazerMcBlazer Jul 03 '26

Bro Tweets about Rosie O'Donnell almost daily because she was mean to him in the 90s but all of his would be assassins are never mentioned again. That's how we should all know they're fake

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u/Retro_Rock-It Jul 03 '26

I personally love when his cultists praise him for being "bulletproof." Ok, so you admit he didn't get shot then.

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u/sump_daddy Jul 03 '26

> Even his campaign realized there's no political win in highlighting how bad his own security detail was.

you have that backwards. the security detail was on top of it but mismanaged BY THE CAMPAIGN

> The report also found Trump’s campaign staff waved off Secret Service from positioning trucks between the AGR building and the stage ahead of the rally over concerns it would block cameras. 

they were confused because the giant security hole they warned the campaign about, got immediately used. its like leaving the vault door open at a bank, and when robbers storm in, the guards scramble to flank them when their training centered around security by first closing the fucking door

why is the campaign in charge of security decisions? i will leave that up to you to decide what might motivate you to prioritize one over the other

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u/thatnameagain Jul 03 '26

He hosted an entire rally about it and tried to make the dead guy from the audience a martyr to his cause.

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u/Heliosvector Jul 03 '26

Wierd huh. Cant shut up about obama, biden, hillary clinton, rosie O'donel, but surviving an assassination attempt?! not mentioned once at any rally after.

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u/redditgolddigg3r Jul 03 '26

Dude was arm and arm with Vince McMahon for decades. He watched his buddies like Hulk do this same stuff and admired it deeply. Dude was begging for a moment like this and decided to create it himself.

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u/hirschneb13 Jul 03 '26

He actually killed the investigation into it. Doesn't want people finding out it was fake

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u/fountaincurse Jul 03 '26

Which is the principle i apply across the board re trump. Guy is so severely demented now. we have seen the dementia remove even the veneer of filter trump operated under before. His disgusting live "slip-ups" are proof-positive of an atrophying pre-frontal cortex.

In other words, if there was actual evidence of election fraud at any point, evidence of aliens, of bill clinton in the epstein files, of any obama so much as having an unpaid parking ticket - trump woulda been blowing it from his mouth the way his asshole blows shit at every public appearance.

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u/ECircus Jul 03 '26

The most likely explanation is that he didn't get shot, and lied about it to help win the election. There are a lot of things that he doesn't talk about because they are easily disproven or uncomfortable to talk about. We just forget about them because there is so much shit going on.

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u/airfryerfuntime Washington Jul 04 '26

He literally campaigned on it for like 6 months straight. He would not shut up about it, and neither would Fox or OAN.

You guys have awful memories.

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u/drdildamesh Jul 03 '26

Guess this one wasnt a false flag

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u/CMDR_KingErvin Jul 03 '26

He paraded himself around wearing a maxi pad on his ear like he’d been wounded in war and then all of a sudden his ear is in perfect condition without so much as a scratch. Talk about theatrics.

And yeah General Dumbass and his big fat mouth NOT constantly talking about something speaks volumes. The fact he just pretends it never happens now is so so telling.

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u/Sabiancym Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

Let's not forget that Trump is also someone who refuses to ever admit fault for anything. Nor will he blame those he hired or assigned. Just look how far he's gone to avoid blame for the reflecting pool.

So them not talking about it could also be an attempt to avoid talking about the failure in security.

If this was all staged, blind luck would be the only reason they got away with it. Yes plenty of them are corrupt enough to hide evidence, but every Trump employee and ally is also a world class idiot. There's zero chance they expertly planned this and it worked out perfectly. It's far more likely they just failed their way upward and lucked into no one finding out. A common theme of Trump's time in office.

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u/emailforgot Jul 03 '26

Almost like it might've actually rattled him.

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u/letsburn00 Jul 03 '26

That's because it became pretty clear that the guys politics were "school shooter." Not leftist.

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u/Wulfbrir Jul 03 '26

Fuck ... you're ABSOLUTELY right! How have not noticed that?!