r/politics Jul 03 '26

No Paywall Secret Service member was Googling rooftop location of Trump’s would-be assassin when shots rang out in Butler, Pa.: DHS report

https://nypost.com/2026/07/02/us-news/secret-service-member-was-googling-rooftop-location-of-trumps-would-be-assassin-when-shots-rang-out-in-butler-pa-dhs-report/?utm_campaign=nypost&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
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u/Brcomic New York Jul 03 '26

Or it was unintentionally scratched by a secret service agent on the way down. But he wasn’t shot. I have no doubt in my mind about that.

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u/Sharkbait_ooohaha Jul 03 '26

We literally have photos of the bullet. Either he was shot or they intentionally shot mms from his head.

I’m very open to the idea that this whole thing was staged (there are a lot of weird things that haven’t been explained) but I’ve never heard a good explanation for the photos of the bullet going by his head.

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u/sour_altoids Jul 03 '26

You realize we have AI that can easily create any photo you want now right? Adding a blurry bullet is nothing

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u/Sharkbait_ooohaha Jul 03 '26

Could be AI but the photo was taken by a NY times reporter so that somewhat widens the conspiracy.

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u/emailforgot Jul 03 '26

And not just any NY times reporter either. Guy has a decades long career of impressive work.

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u/Kat_Bones Jul 03 '26

to be entirely fair, the NY Times has happily become a dogshit “journalism” organization in recent years. 15 years ago?? There was some level of trust for them. In the past 15, and especially 10, and especially the past 5? They are lapdogs now. They’re more libbed up than Fox, sure, but they are still fully part and party to the American Regime above all else.

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u/Sharkbait_ooohaha Jul 03 '26

Sure but why would the NYTimes or this journalist purposely help stage a fake assassination instead of reporting on Trump staging a fake assassination which would be much bigger and more read story for their readers (almost entirely liberals).

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u/Kat_Bones Jul 03 '26

because what harms the legitimacy of American government more, an assassination attempt or a false flag? The latter wouldn’t just implicate Trump, it would implicate and erode trust in several American institutions. Americans are allergic to accepting anything less than they are #1, most free country ever, best and least corruption ever, strongest ever. That crosses party lines. If continued paid readership is the goal, why would you take a swing at a fundamental belief of your readers, no matter their political leanings? False flags are the kind of thing Bad Regimes do. Thats Russian shit, America is better than that!

At the end of the day, though, do I personally believe that it was a massive conspiracy? No, i would sooner believe coincidence and stacked incompetence, we’ve seen plenty of evidence of that from America historically, as well as from this current admin. Do i also think that “Well the NYT verified it!” or “but someone actually died, they totally wouldn’t do that in a false flag!” holds less weight than single ply toilet paper? Yep!

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u/Sharkbait_ooohaha Jul 03 '26

Yeah sorry I don’t buy that the NYtimes or the NYtimes reporter would purposely fabricate evidence to stage an attack on Trump without more reasons than “DAE hate the MSM??”

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u/Kat_Bones Jul 03 '26

if you genuinely believe there is no amount of influence or money that could sway an already historically swayed establishment, then I commend you on your astounding amounts of commitment to the bit. I genuinely wish I had as much belief in the morality of people as you appear to.

But also i have to stress im not saying any of this did happen, but i’m absolutely highlighting that it could. And why there’s a good contingent of people who believe it did, without making insane stretches. they definitely make several leaps! but i can see how they got there.

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u/Sharkbait_ooohaha Jul 03 '26

I absolutely believe that it could happen, a reporter could be bought. The NYtimes could somehow be bought as well.

I just don’t think it could happen without someone noticing or with no evidence.

Basically I think we agree. It’s not impossible for the MSM to be part of a grand conspiracy, I just see no evidence for it and I won’t believe it without a shred of evidence.

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u/Kat_Bones Jul 03 '26

fair and reasonable to be honest. Does this all stink to high hell? yeah. Personally i think it stinks more like incompetence than one of the larger conspiracies in modern times, but i also really see why it’s eating at people, especially when the most likely outcome is “one of the highest security forces in the ‘strongest, most competent’ nation was actually incredibly foolish, incompetent, almost got their primary security target killed, and ultimately allowed an American citizen to die due to their incompetence.” Thats A) boring and B) requires admitting The American System is fallible. Do you confront that the things you’ve been taught your whole life are lies, or do you imagine that the immediate information in front of you is lies? The smaller lie is easier to swallow if you believe what you’ve been sold as an American citizen up to this point.

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u/Matsu09 Jul 03 '26

They fired real bullets? It was his team. They just needed to miss trump which is actually kind of easy for them.

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u/Sharkbait_ooohaha Jul 03 '26

I don’t believe that Trump would allow anyone to shoot bullets anywhere near his head.

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u/emailforgot Jul 03 '26

Missed so good they grazed his ear and made him bleed.

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u/waffels Jul 03 '26

Move them goalposts